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Major Battle Brewing Between French Gov't and ISPs
Dangerous_Minds writes "Drew Wilson has been following HADOPI (France's three strikes law) a lot lately, and the latest developments are that the French ISPs and the French government are edging closer to a full-on war over compensation. The French government apparently requested that ISPs send an invoice of the bills after a certain period of time, but the French ISPs don't feel this is good enough — probably because of worries that the compensation the government will ultimately provide won't be enough. The ISPs are demanding adequate compensation, and if the government doesn't give it to them, they simply will not hand over evidence required to enforce HADOPI law. While HADOPI demands that ISPs cooperate, speculation suggests that if the government takes ISPs to court, the ISPs will simply rely on constitutional jurisprudence to shield them from liability (translation)."
Getting the French government to surrender? That seems unlikely.
SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
Monitoring and fulfilling information requests costs time and money. If they're being required to do so constantly, chances are they had to bring on temporary staff to keep up with the worklog. It's wholly unfair to demand this of them, and yet not compensate them.
Then again, "fair", "business", and "government" don't go together, so ::shrug::.
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So the government buckled to pressure from large 'content-producing' corporations - and our only defense is are other large corporations who don't want to comply because it hurts their wallets.
Not because they think its a bad idea, respect their customers or whatever, because it hurts their wallet.
What a giant mess this world is - money driven. When are the revised copyright laws coming out? No there's no large company which wants that, oh allright - Never O'Clock
The same reason you allow murder and other shit to still happen. There is nothing an individual can do about it.
So in one part of Europe, internet access is a fundamental human right. In another part of Europe, it can taken away entirely for the minor crime of copyright infringement.
When is the EU civil war coming? There needs to be a Scandinavian Lincoln to conquer France and free the oppressed.
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Police forces, for one thing, get an upfront budget instead of being asked to "police the country first and send us the bill later, we'll decide if we pay you back or not."
Clearly there needs to be more anti-piracy laws that hardly affect the pirate and mostly just affect the average citizen! What would we do without these worthless bills, laws, and treaties that don't actually affect their intended target, take away more of everyones rights, and try to 'recover' imaginary profits that pirates 'stole'?
Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
that's just one ISP ..they refuse to give for free somithing that cost them (the identity of the ip owner).
the two other major ISP are more sympatize with it , like orange who give it for free(Albanel witch was the cuturel ministre in charge of hadopie for a time and just continually ridiculize herself is now in charge of Orange comuncation or something like that ).
SFR , (Vivendi universal Subsidiary) is like Orange "pro Hadopi"
some other ISP like FDN (the oldest french isp) are against hadopi with FREE ..
When enforcing the law creates an undue burden on society -- tax dollars are not enough, private industries dollars are not enough, and people continue to break the law anyway -- perhaps it is time to ask, "Does this law even make sense?"
Oh, wait, the copyright lobby -- I forgot that their interests trump everything, even logic.
Palm trees and 8
In related news, today TechDirt posted about scammers starting to send out fake Hadopi notices asking random people for money.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100902/02075110872.shtml
This is really turning out to be a FAIL of EPIC proportions.