The Real 'Stuff White People Like'
Here's an interesting and funny look at 526,000 OkCupid users, divided into groups by race and gender and all the the things each groups says it likes or is interested in. While it is far from being definitive, the groupings give a glimpse of what makes each culture unique. According to the results, white men like nothing better than Tom Clancy, Van Halen, and golfing.
Idle today (or yesterday and today depending on your time zone) has been awful. I mean I get it's idle but come on.
Being the kinds of people who participate in online dating, particularly with one named 'OkCupid'; a group I don't feel is enough to represent any ethnicity/gender with acceptable accurately.
I looked at the lists I'm sure all involved will be offended.
I've had a long-standing belief that the heavy preference for outdoorsy crap in women's profiles is their way of engineering the males they receive responses from. The basic idea is to frame yourself in an athletic manner, thereby driving off the lazy, the fat and the unambitious. In practice, I'd expect this to torpedo a lot video gamers, guys who live at home, geeks and low wage earners. In essence, it's a type of razor wire that kills off all the guys no woman wants to talk to.
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How dare you think that as a Canadian I don't like Van Halen!
Now, where'd I put that mullet...
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Just saying.
I bet if the site allowed you to keep part of your profile private, with access reserved only for your buddies, a certain multi-ethnic theme would emerge. A predilection for BJ's would cross all cultural barriers and leap to number one on the list of things most guys like.
High fives all 'round. Woot, woot!
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That's not fair. It's hard to tell Canadians from really boring white people.
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Stereotyping is never good, but it has a higher degree of confidence based on the divergence of individual characteristics, as well as population. (For example, you say "all 17 year old black males like rap music", but you're actually looking at more than one characteristic - there typically is less divergence among economic status, geographic distance from peers, etc.. to put it bluntly, they tend to be poor and live close together)
Among white males, this tends to be less true wider array of economic functioning (higher % of upper middle class), geographic distribution (with few exceptions, white males can *socially* live wherever they want, if they can afford it), etc. So there's no *typical* white male.
The best thing about a boolean is even if you are wrong, you are only off by a bit.
They can divide this up by white/black/asian/indian/etc, but they aren't dividing it up by culture. Quite often whites in America have very little in common... just like Taiwanese and Koreans have very little in common (aside from being 'asian')... or Tanzanians and Russians... T^T
White is not a race and neither is black.
Just saying.
How 99.9% of women between the ages of 15-40 list themselves as bisexual. Odd.
Canadian also somehow climbed up the slang rankings for an opposing race when you don't want to say the other slang words for them.
"Damn, those Canadians can't _____!"
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White people love reading lists about what white people like.
Would be to not read stupid articles like this one.
Geeks make low wages? I thought they decent amount of money.
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Well, I think 100 is a bit excessive, but how about 1 or 2? I used to live with 2 cats but now only have one and think it is wonderful but what really makes my life enjoyable is the 40k comic books that I own. And no, I don't see anything wrong with being a nerd! I feel that I have been a happier person than most other people and my "secret" is to simply do what *I* enjoy and not giving a damn whether other people do the same thing and/or approve of it or not!
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the groupings give a glimpse of what makes each culture unique
NOT TRUE. the groupings give a glimpse of what makes members each culture who would sign up for a dating website named "okcupid" unique.
I just like having sex with random strangers. Bars, online, clubs (like the ones you mention), they are all good. Promiscuous men are the real evolutionary winners. How many kids can you have with one woman. 15, maybe 20 tops. A real evolutionary winner can do that weekly. :p
On behalf of all white guys who don't golf, don't read Tom Clancy, and don't worship Van Halen, I offer up Cee Lo Green.
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All these years I thought I was white, yet I stopped reading Tom Clancy in my teens, I don't listen to Van Halen, and have never payed a game of golf in my life. (I assume that mini-golf doesn't count) I need to sit down, my entire world-view of myself just came crashing down!
Except that nowadays most women will use contraceptives. Especially those available for promiscuous men.
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WTF is soul food? Never even heard of that. :-)
Maybe instead of eating the meat of animals, they are eating their souls?
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I'm pretty sure this should be categorized under "The Wrong Kind of White People".
Such stuff is an ADVERTISEMENT. The woman is trying to sell herself, so she lists stuff that she thinks make her attractive to others.
Normal people don't spend all their time thinking everything through as if it is a move in a chess game.
Think of it as going to an exotic location on holiday just to bake in the sun. You want to world to see you as an exciting person who has seen the world, when all you really want to do is not do anything at all.
Really, the reason nerds often do bad with women is because they overthink it all. STOP. If women were complicated, jocks wouldn't be able to deal with them.
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I've been having the same problem on slashdot for a while now, and it's really annoying :( I only want to view the post I selected on that page - not select it in isolation :-/ Feels like it's double-clicking instead of single-clicking or something similar? (Using firefox 3.6.8 (about to upgrade to 3.6.9) on win-xp SP3).
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I do like me some Van Halen, but golf?! I'd rather carve out my eyes with a rusty nail that play that 'sport'
How dare you think that as a Canadian I don't like Van Halen!
That wasn't an extremely polite way of saying that... admit it, you're not actually Canadian, are you? You're from New York! Nice try, NY, but -real- Canadians would apologize for being Canadian and liking Van Halen, and then would invite AC to have a beer.
Why is this modded troll? This article is entirely about Americans (and not just white ones). It's worth pointing out that this analysis says nothing about people from other countries.
It's not an either/or thing. You can join a dating site and go out and meet people. Having hobbies and meeting people is healthy even if you already have a relationship. Joining a hiking club with the explicit expectation to pick up a girl there is not such a good idea. It might happen, but it's not what hiking clubs are for (unlike dating sites).
I go out and meet people, my wife goes out and meets people, yet we met on a dating site. My brother goes out and meets people but is still single. Dating sites definitely fill a useful role, and according to various surveys, they do often lead to healthy and stable relationships. Don't expect them to be a substitute for having a life, because they're not. But that doesn't mean they add nothing of value.
Interesting that "White People" like red socks and NASCAR. There couldn't be a little bias here possibly, or would I really find that Italians, Norwegians, Russians, Africans and Bosnians really do have this type of interest.
Lying.
"I like cycling a lot."
"me too!".
So if the woman is not really cycling but used it as a filter , she is back to point zero.
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Parent post has it half right... What they mean by "white men" is "OkCupid users who identify themselves as white men."
There's also a few other sizable demographics that might be interesting, such as "People who identify themselves as white men and who don't do any sort of online dating."
Am I part of the core demographic for Swedish Fish?
Does slashdot have a stake in OKC or what?
How many more years will slashdot have an off-by-one error on your Score in your profile?
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Or evidence that the Christians are considerate of the wide spread of readership their profile will get, and deliberately write at a simple level to accommodate that readership, whereas the atheists just want to show off and don't care about their readers.
Seems to me that what you have there is data, not evidence.
For what it's worth, I have a profile on OK Cupid, and deliberately kept the language and writing style simple. But I have "solipsist" in the "religion" box on my profile, and we didn't get included in the survey.
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You'll have to forgive us Americans for wanting to pretend we're Canadian.
You are welcome on my lawn.
According to the results white men like nothing better than Tom Clancy, Van Halen, and golfing.
I'm 5 minutes in the sun away from people telling me they "loved me in the movie Powder", and I still don't like any of those.
But false advertising hardly seems to be a way to start a relationship you'll actually enjoy.
For a start there's the aspect that you're essentially starting your relationship with a lie. It's not a way to say "let's trust each other" in the long run. Once you're aware that she lied her ass off to land what she thinks is a prize male, what else is she lying about? It's not even a way to boost confidence, as basically if she was after a generic prize male and not after someone actually matching or anything, you're nothing more than a fungible commodity.
But that's not even the most important part.
The more perverse part is that it's selecting someone whose personality is pretty much guaranteed to not match hers. A guy who's actually into camping and going fishing and traveling to exotic locations, is going to want to actually do that. That's what he's interested in, and that's what makes him happy. But if she really hates those, only put those in to seem more attractive, and is actually into watching soap operas and shopping... that's not going to be all that good a match, is it? At some point down the line it's either going to mean a lot of being alone on weekends for her and whining about how men are so insensitive as to go fishing and leave her alone, while the guy is still doing his activity solo in spite of having been mistakenly thinking that he found a girl to accompany him. Or it's going to mean her freezing her ass off in a tent on some mountain and hating every minute of it, just because she lied about it before. Or various other variants of essentially not being particularly happy with what the other's actual interests are.
On a site designed for matching interests, why not, you know, actually try to actually match interests?
If your interests are shopping for clothes, why not put that down and maybe find a guy who's also into shopping for clothes? Granted, he'll probably be gay, but still... ;) Or at least someone who knows up front what he's getting into, and is prepared to resign to that fate.
Essentially, I'm reminded of The Beauty And The Beast. It's apparently actually a story which can cause women to stay in an abusive relationship, because they learned that eventually they'll change the beast. (At least according to one study.) Or even essentially look for the most fashionable beast on the block, because, hey, you can change him later. Except the beast never changes, and nagging him will just get you to see a bit more of the beast part. Usually coming at high speed at you.
In this case she's choosing to attract the kind of person which is pretty much guaranteed not to actually like the real her. It's just fishing for a different kind of beast. And if anyone is thinking that either beast will change, they're still going to have a funny surprise down the road.
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According to the results white men like nothing better than Tom Clancy, Van Halen, and golfing.
You mean I'm not really white! My parents got some 'esplainin' to do!
Well don't you enjoy feeling smug and superior? I joined an online dating site, met the woman who is now my wife, and together we acquired two cats. There's nothing wrong with online dating -- it's much more direct than joining random clubs to try to meet someone and there's nothing inherently superior about a relationship that started in a hiking club compared to one that started online. We know several other married couples who met online and all are happy and stable relationships.
Might they also take into consideration the 1000 white males they considered for this, were all within the same age range of 30 to 35....maybe if they hooked up a few 50+ and 20 and under crowds in there, might make it a bit more relevant
The data does not decide between the two hypotheses so far proposed, so it's not evidence in favour of either one one over the other.
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Perhaps there are more dumb Christians than anybody else, weighing on the results? Or are there really that many dumb, white, bible thumping rednecks?
Middle eastern men like Nickleback? So that explains their continued popularity.
I've had the same issue so thanks for the work-around. On the other hand, it does confirm that it's the slashcode for the idle section that's broken and not a problem with our browser(s)
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Hiking clubs? Tell us you're having a laugh. I see hiking clubs walking past (in the UK) and I'd say their average age was 65. Males outnumber females 2:1. I am in a photographic club, another non-geek activity (having an art side) and the demograph is similar. Maybe a knitting club would be different (at least the ratio), but I never joined one.
I met my wife in a dating club. I met far more girls in that club than I would ever have done outside, in what you call "real life". In my "real life" I never seemed to meet any although there was nothing wrong with my looks or build.
It's like trying to throw a double-six with dice : the more throws you make the more likely you are to get it.
How you meet someone doesn't matter, it's what develops afterwards. On the first dates with girls through the club, we usually moved on from the club itself as a topic of conversation within the first 10 minutes.
And, contrary to some ideas here, and my initial worry, I met some hot stuff. My first steady GF from the club had recently been a Bunny Girl at the London Playboy Club; disbelieve that if you want (but she wasn't as good as you might be thinking). Another was near ringer for Fairuza Balk (as in The Craft) but with a better complexion and a smaller mouth - the prettiest girl I have ever seen although the personality lagged behind. Two others were nymphos, but I won't go into that.
You say we should meet people "face-to-face". You've lost me there; that is the very point of a dating club.
I got to know all sorts over several years. During that time I saw the most "real life" and had the most face-to-face encounters in my life.
This had to be based on the East Coast of the US. And white men and golf: I'll never understand the attaction, a lot of white males must be terribly bored in order to waste an entire morning/afternoon (or both) chasing around a little white ball. Yes, I am a white male with an actual life to live.
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Sorry, but "golfing" is not a word. One plays golf. One does NOT go "golfing." Dammit.
It's interesting that in the women's list boating ranks above horses, while in my own experience it is exactly the other way round. My cynical guess is that anyone who can afford a boat (as Lipton said, it's like tearing up banknotes under a cold shower) is seen by a lot of women as a good prospect. People who can afford boats can afford horses, but a lot of people who like horses don't have so much money (perhaps through a belief that one horse can be reliably predicted to run faster than another.)
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Evolution doesn't care about the human race, or how smart it is. It only cares about those who breed the most. If being intelligent isn't adaptive and gives a survival boost, or increasing the odds of reproduction, or the survivability of the resulting children, then it will not be selected for. If being a promiscuous moron is best fit for the environment, then being a promiscuous moron is indeed good for humanity (in a sense).
Evolution doesn't give a rats ass.
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How much is your data worth? Back it up now.
I'm sorry your eyeballs were tainted and you were forced to click and read and post.
Also, what's with the "internet entitlement complex"? A website showing an article you aren't interested in causes very little real inconvenience to anyone.
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It's hard to tell Canadians from really boring white people.
C'mon now - if there's a guy with a Maple Leafs jersey on and he's holding a Molson - you've got pretty good odds there.
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Oh, those guys are anything but boring. They're friggin' hilarious. Almost as strange as the ones from Saskatchewan wearing watermelon helmets.
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men list things such as guitars, nascar, tom clancy, harleys...
women like things like "I'm blond," mascara, diet coke, flip-flops, and "my toes"
call me a misogynist, but...
no, never-mind.
I don't like Tom Clancy, Van Halen, or golf... (looks at arm) Hey, I never noticed that pigment before!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
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