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Intel Threatens DMCA Using HDCP Crack

mikesd81 writes "Intel is apparently threatening to use the DMCA against anyone using the HDCP crack under the DMCA's anti-circumvention clause. 'There are laws to protect both the intellectual property involved as well as the content that is created and owned by the content providers,' said Tom Waldrop, a spokesman for the company, which developed HDCP. 'Should a circumvention device be created using this information, we and others would avail ourselves, as appropriate, of those remedies.'"

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  1. Backward Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Who wrote the headline? Shouldn't it be "Intel Threatens HDCP Crack Using DMCA"?

  2. DMCA Lutero by Tei · · Score: 2, Informative

    I remenber there was once a ban in europe to read the bible, other by sanctioned sources. So a dude ( Lutero ) made a version in a language (german) that everyone can read.

    I don't remenber how the DMCA back then worked. Did the pope stopped him?

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    1. Re:DMCA Lutero by Kjella · · Score: 3, Informative

      sounds like a plan to me, burning record stores, MPAA/RIAA executives crusified or burned at the stake.. where do i sign up?

      I think you've misidentified who the establishment was and who died. It's far more likely you'll be burned as a copywitch than the other way around.

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  3. Re:There's No DMCA Outside The US by CowboyBob500 · · Score: 3, Informative
  4. Re:LOC vs DMCA by VGPowerlord · · Score: 4, Informative

    So if the Library of Congress says jail-breaking is okay, and the DMCA says it's not, which one takes precedence in U.S. law?

    The Librarian of Congress has been empowered to create DMCA exemptions, so the Library of Congress would win.

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  5. Re:So, anybody up to making an open source cracker by Dragoniz3r · · Score: 3, Informative

    Just use an FPGA... problem solved.

  6. Re:BD not cracked by synthesizerpatel · · Score: 4, Informative

    BlackMagic Design makes PCI cards and USB boxes with unencrypted HDMI video capture.

    http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

  7. Re:There's No DMCA Outside The US by bfree · · Score: 4, Informative

    There may be no DMCA outside the US as the DMCA is an American law, but the WIPO Copyright Treaty upon which it is based has been enacted in many other countries. For example there is the EU Copyright Directive 2001/29/EC

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  8. Grammar? by supersloshy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't mean to be a grammar nazi here, but "Intel Threatens DMCA Using HDCP Crack"? Really? The DMCA must feel so threatened because of Intel threatening it with the HDCP crack... More like "Intel Threatens HDCP Crack With DMCA".

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  9. Re:BD not cracked by AndrewNeo · · Score: 4, Informative

    BD encryption (AACS) was broken some time ago. AnyDVD HD still works even on the newest movies. But no, HDCP has nothing to do with Blu-ray directly.

  10. Re:So, anybody up to making an open source cracker by julesh · · Score: 2, Informative

    I wonder if it's possible to make a hardware HDCP to DVI converter without having to make a custom ASIC. That way there wouldn't be the need to depend on a lone (probably chinese) supplier.

    Hardware should be something like this: http://www.thisnext.com/item/C582EA3E/E0650FCC/2-Channel-Dual-Link-DVI-FPGA

    (actually, that board's way over the top... the FPGA on it is higher spec than I imagine would be required, there'll be no need for the expansion RAM as most FPGAs these days have more than enough internal RAM for this kind of thing, and it won't need the expandability designed onto that board, but you get my point: the hardware you'll need already exists)

    The design to load onto the FPGA should be relatively easy for anyone skilled in both crypto and digital electronic design. I'd expect to see one released within the next couple of weeks, judging by how many people I've seen complaining about not being able to use their non-HDCP-compatible monitors to watch stuff.

  11. Re:So, anybody up to making an open source cracker by jonwil · · Score: 5, Informative

    There are already chips out there that can do HDMI with HDCP (e.g. Analog Devices AD9393) if you supply a key.
    So it should be a matter of using one of these plus a key derived from this intel master key.

  12. Re:Bring it on by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'll give you an example. I flew with my kids this summer and to help pass the time, I ripped a few of their favorite dvd's onto my iPod for them to watch on the plane. Being able to have the movie on my iPod has value, and thus the movie people expect to be paid for that.

    Cory Doctorow talked to an MPAA representative who allegedly said "When you buy a movie to watch in your living room, we're only selling you the right to see it in your living room. Sending the same show upstairs to watch in your bedroom has value, and if it has value, we should be able to charge money for it."

    So, if you asked Mr MPAA where the harm is, their answer could very well be "everywhere all the time"

  13. Re:I don't see how by laederkeps · · Score: 2, Informative

    These are supposedly using "legitimate" HDCP keys to get access to the protected data (the input to your stripper). It is my understanding that these keys could be revoked, making that stripper (and probably all the others of the same model which use the same key) useless.

    This new "crack" allows you to generate new and perfectly valid keys, making the device's "authorization" irrevocable.

  14. Re:There's No DMCA Outside The US by Pofy · · Score: 2, Informative

    "There may be no DMCA outside the US as the DMCA is an American law, but the WIPO Copyright Treaty upon which it is based has been enacted in many other countries. "

    Key phrase is "upon which it is based". This doesn't mean everything that is in the DMCA is in the WIPO treaty. For example the protection that controll access is not part of the WIP treaty (and not the EU directive either) but is something some countries, even in Europe has added. But many countries doesn't include protection that controll access to what is covered. Encryption doesn't in itself prevent copying and hence encrypting something doesn't really prevent copying and would thus not be covered. It can be covered when controling the access to the public, but not for copying.

    So it in many countries, the HDCP is not a technical meassure that is covered since it doesn't prevent copying, just accessing whatever is encrypted.

  15. It's needed for interoperability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's needed for interoperability. You know, you have a high definition TV from before the HCDP was available or fixed, so you need this info in order to make your Blu Ray player work with your high definition TV.

    Or with Linux.

    Or with BeOS.

    Or with...

  16. Re:Barn Doors by tixxit · · Score: 2, Informative

    I guess so. All software is simply a really big number. The fact that the number makes fancy GUIs, or let's you watch a movie is what matters in the courts, I think.

  17. Re:Bring it on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Probably because there is no way to use CableCard with MythTV either. (If there is, then the GP doesn't know about it or it won't work with his cable setup.)