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Pope's Astronomer Would Love To Baptize an Alien

Ponca City, We Love You writes "The Guardian reports that Guy Consolmagno, curator of the pope's meteorite collection and a trained astronomer and planetary scientist, says he would be 'delighted' if intelligent life was found among the stars. 'But the odds of us finding it, of it being intelligent and us being able to communicate with it — when you add them up it's probably not a practical question.' Consolmagno adds that the traditional definition of a soul was to have intelligence, free will, freedom to love and freedom to make decisions. 'Any entity — no matter how many tentacles it has — has a soul.' Would he baptize an alien? 'Only if they asked.' Consolmagno dismisses the ideas of intelligent design as a pseudo-scientific version of creationism. 'The word has been hijacked by a narrow group of creationist fundamentalists in America to mean something it didn't originally mean at all. It's another form of the God of the gaps. It's bad theology in that it turns God once again into the pagan god of thunder and lightning.'"

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  1. Deliberately misconstruing speaker by Skexis · · Score: 4, Informative

    Even reading just the summary, the title does no justice to Consolmagno's response.

  2. The Vatican dismissing creationism? by brian0918 · · Score: 2, Informative

    This seems very appropriate.

  3. Re:Good read by Thelasko · · Score: 2, Informative

    It shows that the stereotype of the church is against is untrue. It has some interesting observations on the Catholic church and its views on things.

    It should be pointed out that he is no ordinary priest (actually, he's a monk). He is a Jesuit. An order organized during the renaissance to preach to the more educated people of the time.

    Today they are known for administrating most of the church's universities. One of the requirements is to have a minimum of a bachelor's degree.

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  4. Guy Consolmagno by jschen · · Score: 3, Informative

    Dr. Consolmagno spoke at our decidedly non-religious institute (The Scripps Research Institute) back in February. He often represents Europe in international astronomy meetings, including when they were deciding whether to demote Pluto. In his seminar, he gave us a preview of his book, The Heavens Proclaim: Astronomy and the Vatican. It was mostly showing us pretty pictures in the book and telling us all sorts of interesting anecdotes from his experiences. He also covered a multitude of other topics, ranging from those of purely scientific concern (e.g. figuring out a way to determine the density of a meteorite) to historical controversies (e.g. the church and Galileo). It was one of the most interesting seminars I've attended this year. If given another chance to attend a seminar of his, I would gladly do so. In fact, if I were to know about it in advance, I might even buy a copy of his book for him to sign.

  5. Brother Guy Consolmagno by Hartree · · Score: 4, Informative

    Absolutely. Several years ago, I heard him talk on the prospects for finding more exoplanets in the future. He's a serious and highly competent scientist.

    He also is a Jesuit monk. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

    (And, he seemed like a heck of a nice Guy. Forgive the pun. :)

    See:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Consolmagno

  6. Baptizing by Pseudonymus+Bosch · · Score: 2, Informative

    He is a Catholic so he can baptize in an emergency. And he is a priest so he can baptize in all cases.

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