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Newspaper May Have Given Implicit License To Copy

An anonymous reader writes "Following up on the story of Righthaven, the 'copyright troll' that is working with the Las Vegas Journal Review to sue lots of websites (including one of Nevada's Senate candidates) for reposting articles from the LVRJ, a judge in one of the cases appears to be quite sympathetic to the argument that the LVRJ offered an 'implied license' to copy by not just putting their content online for free, but including tools on every story that say 'share this' with links to various sharing services (including one tool to 'share' via Slashdot!)."

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  1. Common Sense? by Haedrian · · Score: 5, Funny

    If common sense finally wins in one of these cases, it'll be the end of the world as we know it.

    Until they file an appeal.

    1. Re:Common Sense? by Pojut · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The fact that common sense usually doesn't win out in these types of cases should be proof enough for anyone that the justice system provides anything but.

    2. Re:Common Sense? by mea37 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In what world do you live?

      Are you not aware that the high-profile RIAA/MPAA cases are a tiny fraction of the copyright litigation that occurs? Have you failed to notice that even in those cases, while the industry groups are pushing for outrageous outcomes, the trend has been toward moderation (or, one might say, "common sense") for a long time now?

      It is not shocking news that the court is hearing this argument, and it will not be shocking news if this argument prevails.

  2. Reform is needed. by fat+bastard+of+doom · · Score: 2

    Do not feed the copyright troll. This is interesting. I have a feeling that very soon, the court system is going to start getting sick of the abuses of the copyright system, which may spur some changes. Of course, this has been said many times before.

    1. Re:Reform is needed. by Haedrian · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Court system may be sick of it, but the lobbyists sure as hell aren't.

      Not going to happen.

    2. Re:Reform is needed. by dfm3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Court system may be sick of it, but the lawyers sure as hell aren't.

      Not going to happen.

      Fixed that for you.

      We know who always wins these cases, and it's not always the plaintiff or defendant...

    3. Re:Reform is needed. by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Interesting

      There are two kinds of copyright troll: the ones who abuse copyright itself, like filing takedown notices on websites that aren't infringing copyright but the troll wants closed for other reasons (like it said something bad about them), and the industry shills who come to slashdot equating copyright infringemet to theft and terrorism with their "think of the artists" and "it's MY property" twisted logic.

      Sometimes you have to fight the trolls.

    4. Re:Reform is needed. by jgagnon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Just wait for lawyers to start patenting their particular model of "lawyering" and then the fun REALLY starts. :p

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    5. Re:Reform is needed. by ByOhTek · · Score: 2, Informative

      And the people who come to slashdot and think they have the right to any non-physical copyrightted work, even without paying for it.

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    6. Re:Reform is needed. by turbidostato · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "And the people who come to slashdot and think they have the right to any non-physical copyrightted work, even without paying for it."

      Not any. Only what the author already decided to make *public*.

    7. Re:Reform is needed. by trum4n · · Score: 3, Funny

      They can afford SleepNumber beds.

    8. Re:Reform is needed. by Profane+MuthaFucka · · Score: 2, Funny

      I like that argument technique - make up a fact, for example, divorce rates are going through the roof, and blame it on a group that you don't like.

      Seriously, I like that technique.

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    9. Re:Reform is needed. by gsslay · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You appear to be confusing 'troll' with "someone who disagrees with my perfectly correct opinions and therefore must be silenced".

      Trolls are generally not welcome, as they are not interested in discussion, just provoking reaction. They may not even care about the topic discussed one way or another. It's just a way of getting attention for their favorite topic; themselves.

      People who disagree, however, are essential for any good discussion forum. Informed and considered opinion rarely forms from people sitting around congratulating each other on how right they all are and how much they are in agreement. I can't imagine why anyone would want to hang out in any forum like that. Ideas need challenged to prove their worth. Calling those who provide the challenge 'trolls' or 'shills' are just ad hominen attacks that avoid the real issues.

    10. Re:Reform is needed. by Lloyd_Bryant · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Just wait for lawyers to start patenting their particular model of "lawyering" and then the fun REALLY starts. :p

      You mean like a trial lawyer patenting a method for making jury selections? Sorry, it's already happened, and I haven't seen any *fun* resulting...

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    11. Re:Reform is needed. by mcgrew · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People who disagree, however, are essential for any good discussion forum.

      I agree entirely with your post, but when you see strawmen and other deceitful arguments, you're looking at a troll.

  3. They need help by h00manist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Their articles need posting to a few hundred websites more... that way they can become partners with the **AA gang in the mass-mail lawsuits business. It's all part of a plan for a DOS attack on the justice system.

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    1. Re:They need help by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2, Funny

      At which point, all court rooms can be issued with a small PA system and a button on their desk. Every case of "RIAA Vs. " or "MPAA Vs. " etc which they encounter, they can press the button. In a big booming voice, the PA system will play "DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE. and that'll be that.

      Trapdoor to shark pit underneath the plaintiff's lawyers is optional.

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  4. CopyRight Law by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 2

    It's a double-edged sword. Lets see how the trolls like being sliced with it.

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  5. Um... by omglolbah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Wouldnt this mean that any sharing of a link to your content would also give an implied license to copy?

    How exactly is this going to work? Does this mean that all newspaper stories are freely usable by anyone?... That will sure break a lot of things... :p

    1. Re:Um... by Yvanhoe · · Score: 5, Funny

      How exactly is this going to work?

      How concisely you sum up years of interrogations about this whole "intellectual property" thing !

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    2. Re:Um... by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 2

      No. It wouldn't. Link -> content remains on the author's web page.

      No content is sent to your computer. One could even put forth the argument that it is copied to your computer.

    3. Re:Um... by Spad · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It is, as they always say in the lawsuits against P2P operators, all about how you advertise your services.

      If you say "Here is my article, come read it" then you're not implying anything beyond that, but if you say "Here is my article, come read it and share it with all your friends" then the implication is that you're happy for people to take that article and spread it around.

      Now there may be an issue of attribution, but that's an entirely separate issue from claiming that people are violating your copyrights by doing what you invited them to do.

    4. Re:Um... by jgagnon · · Score: 2

      If the content is going through the Internet then you could easily argue it is copied MANY times along the route from the source to you.

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    5. Re:Um... by Urza9814 · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, it means that if you put a button on your site saying "Click here to copy part of this story to your website!", you can't then sue people for copying parts of the story. It would be like YouTube suing people for using the embed links they post.

    6. Re:Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      How different is this from the free newspapers I see around the city that tries to propagate itself through free distribution? Just because it's passed around as much as possible, it doesn't necessarily mean you (the end-user) can take the articles and publish it in a book form compilation and sell it.

      As a photographer, I pass out postcards and other marketing materials. It doesn't mean the *potential* art buyers can use my image for their designs and advertising projects. I am the copyright holder.

      What about the software company that distributes shareware versions of their program - are they free to be modified and re-sold at profit? Or should I simply cripple my images with a watermark? Should the news site install a paywall to tone down this "implicitiveness?"

      I think the problem is not necessarily spreading the content, per se, but who's hosting. In this age of pay-per-click advertising, if the user is not visiting the original online publication with ads (News Site), but instead going to another domain with copied content (Copy Site), the Copy Site is generating revenue at the cost of News Site (editors, reporters, photographers ain't free).

      I would hinge this case as 'fair use' based on Copy Site's amount of articles copied; how much is copied (whole articles or quotes); and if any revenue is generated through ads or other financial incentive.

    7. Re:Um... by networkBoy · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And the counter to that is that the website author grants an implied license to copy the work for display on your machine so you can read it, but not a blanket license to copy for anything you want to do with it. In this particular case, however, the author(s) of the website placed "share this" links to /. and others, thus implying that they wanted to make the pages available to all for copying.
      -nB

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    8. Re:Um... by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Interesting

      No, it means that if you put a button on your site saying "Click here to copy part of this story to your website!", you can't then sue people for copying parts of the story. It would be like YouTube suing people for using the embed links they post.

      Not quite - there's different kinds of 'copying'. Putting a button on your site does give implicit permission to copy that portion of the story provided by the button - it does not give implicit permission to cut-and-paste the entire story. (Usually such buttons only provide a teaser and a link, and the LVJR's buttons adhere to this custom.) I'm hoping the judge recognizes the difference.
       
      Fair use plays into this as well. Unless it falls under one of the exemptions, then by copying the entire article to your website (whether or not you provide a link) you've violated the LVJR's copyrights.

    9. Re:Um... by DerekLyons · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It is, as they always say in the lawsuits against P2P operators, all about how you advertise your services.

      Correct, and from the responses here on Slashdot, I suspect virtually none have actually gone and checked out the 'advertising'. It doesn't say what you think it says.
       

      If you say "Here is my article, come read it" then you're not implying anything beyond that, but if you say "Here is my article, come read it and share it with all your friends" then the implication is that you're happy for people to take that article and spread it around.

      However, the LVRJ is not saying "here's the article, share it with all your friends", they're saying "here's a link, share it with all your friends". There's a huge and important difference there.

  6. A limited reading by Sonny+Yatsen · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just want to note that the Righthaven v. Klerks decision linked to in the article should actually be read on fairly narrow grounds. The whole issue of Righthaven is whether to vacate a default judgment entered against Righthaven. In order to vacate the default judgment, the defendant had to show that they 1) weren't culpable in defaulting, 2) they had a meritorious defense to the original case, and 3) not vacating the default judgment will prejudice the defendant.

    The whole part about the implicit license to copy and fair use was applied only to the question of whether Righthaven had a meritorious defense. However, it does not mean that the defense is a winning defense, merely that it wouldn't be laughed out of court if they asserted it. I don't think this really offers that much precedent beyond the narrow scope of the motion.

    In any case, while I disagree with Righthaven (and I agree with the judge on the matter of fair use), something doesn't exactly sit right with me with the Judge's argument that the newspaper gave an implied consent to copy the newspaper. Part of the reasoning is that the newspaper permitted the user to "'right-click' and copy the article". This seems like a dog of an argument to me. Practically all websites allow users to right click (except for Dr. Ann de Wees Allen) and copy the content from their webpages - that doesn't seem like it means that everything is offered on the web with an implied license to copy. Rather, the fact that the newspaper had links to share a link to the content on facebook or twitter or whatever - and thus should only really be read to have given implied consent to link, not to copy.

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    1. Re:A limited reading by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      something doesn't exactly sit right with me with the Judge's argument that the newspaper gave an implied consent to copy the newspaper. Part of the reasoning is that the newspaper permitted the user to "'right-click' and copy the article". This seems like a dog of an argument to me. Practically all websites allow users to right click

      Just to be clear, browsers allow users to right-click. That's not the website. That's the difference upon which I would focus when attempting to undermine that argument. Website operators can take additional means to prevent stupid people from saving their content, but the law doesn't require them to do so in order to gain copyright protection.

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    2. Re:A limited reading by Haedrian · · Score: 2, Funny

      Just to be clear, browsers allow users to right-click.

      They've been suing the wrong people all this time.

      Mozilla, Google and Microsoft are the culprits!

    3. Re:A limited reading by Sonny+Yatsen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's an interesting issue to bring up. Because of technology advancing so quickly, these issues are still yet unresolved. You gotta remember, a lot of judges aren't tech-savvy and there's a gap between the technological knowledge of a court and the issues that pop up nowadays. (For instance, a few years ago, no websites would have links to share on social networking sites like facebook or twitter.) Case in point, judicial districts still use antiquated technology to function. The New York Judicial Courts, for instance, still mandate the use of WordPerfect as its preferred format.

      As far as the difference between sharing the article and sharing a link to the article, I think the most appropriate slashdot appropriate analogy would be the difference between a memory location and a pointer to a memory location.

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    4. Re:A limited reading by paziek · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not really. This way you could say, that it was the one who made this kitchen knife - used to stab someone - is to blame for it.

    5. Re:A limited reading by Haedrian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Same way you could say people who offer torrent tracking, torrent searches, and torrent programs are to blame for the data which passes through them.

      I was being sarcastic, in light of the fact that this sort of thing has been tried once too many times.

    6. Re:A limited reading by Urza9814 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      the fact that the newspaper had links to share a link to the content on facebook or twitter or whatever - and thus should only really be read to have given implied consent to link, not to copy.

      Except 90% of the time, when you share a link on Facebook, it copies a fairly large portion of the article into your news feed as well. I'm not sure if there's a way to turn that if, but if there is, I would say the validity of the argument rests of if that was enabled. And if that feature can't be or wasn't disabled, then I would say they most definitely gave a licence to copy at least on or two paragraphs from an article.

    7. Re:A limited reading by Sonny+Yatsen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Remember, one factor for the fair use doctrine is the amount that was copied. For example, if only a small portion is copied (as would be when links are shared via facebook), then that tends to support a finding of fair use. On the other hand, if the entire article is copied, then that factor tends to weigh against the defendant when making a case for fair use (as noted in the judge's decision here, actually).

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    8. Re:A limited reading by sangreal66 · · Score: 2, Informative

      That isn't how the 'share' functionality on news sites work. It shares a link to the story with the headline and the first few sentences, not the entire article.

    9. Re:A limited reading by teh+kurisu · · Score: 2

      It depresses me that, on Slashdot of all places, this even needs to be said.

    10. Re:A limited reading by teh+kurisu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's a difference between placing a link (not covered by copyright) and a summary (covered by fair use in the US) on your site, and copying the entire article.

      The link and summary are actually a net benefit to the website being linked, as it may help drive traffic and increase advertising revenue.

      By copying the entire article, you're allowing others to read the article without being shown the advertising that would go with it.

      Even if the 'share' feature of the website did allow you to copy the entire text of the article, it's to a limited number of sites. It's reasonable to assume that the newspaper has given permission to copy to those sites, but that's no reason to assume that that permission is extended to your own web server.

      I think the judge is right to stop and question the wording used with the share function, but otherwise this seems like an open and shut case of copyright infringement and not at all an abuse of copyright law.

    11. Re:A limited reading by Sonny+Yatsen · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Righthaven's business model is that it finds people who copied a particular newspaper article, then track down the copyright owners of the article, purchase the rights to it and then turn around and sue the person they found. That seems like an abuse. In any case, copying a newspaper article (as noted by the judge here) for non-commercial and informational use may be a fair use under the multi-part fair use factor test.

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    12. Re:A limited reading by teh+kurisu · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In any case, copying a newspaper article (as noted by the judge here) for non-commercial and informational use may be a fair use under the multi-part fair use factor test.

      I'd question that, under the amount and substantiality test. And given the existence and ubiquity of hyperlinking, it's not necessary to copy an entire article for informational use.

      As for the business model, I agree it's not a particularly nice one, but the problem is with the large statutory damages that US copyright law allows. Reduce those, and allow the judge to set common-sense damages on a case-by-case basis, and this business model rapidly becomes uneconomic. Trying to allow exceptions where you don't like the business model just makes copyright law more broken.

  7. Sudden Outbreak of Common Sense by koterica · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As others have explained above, this judgment isn't so much a precedent as it is a judge saying that the argument *might* work. However- it shows remarkable reasonableness on the part of the judge. After all, if I put a fruit bowl on a table with a note that said "Take one and have a nice day!", I could hardly turn around and sue you for banana-theft.

    1. Re:Sudden Outbreak of Common Sense by jamesh · · Score: 3, Insightful

      After all, if I put a fruit bowl on a table with a note that said "Take one and have a nice day!", I could hardly turn around and sue you for banana-theft.

      If you put a note on the table that said "tell all your friends to come over here and look at this fruit" and one of them stole a banana then you might have a stronger case, which I think better describes what's going on in TFA.

      AFAICT, 'Share this' doesn't copy the entire article, it just copies the blurb and gets people to go visit the news site if they want to know more. IMO that is not an implicit or explicit license to copy anything. I think it's good that the judge isn't just handwaving away the idea that it might be, but I think common sense in this case says that the defendant is in the wrong if they have indeed copied a large chunk of data.

    2. Re:Sudden Outbreak of Common Sense by FallinWithStyle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      After all, if I put a fruit bowl on a table with a note that said "Take one and have a nice day!", I could hardly turn around and sue you for banana-theft.

      If you put a note on the table that said "tell all your friends to come over here and look at this fruit" and one of them stole a banana then you might have a stronger case, which I think better describes what's going on in TFA.

      You've both got the analogy wrong. Copyright violation != theft. A more appropriate version of your analogy:
      If you put a note on the table that said "tell all your friends to come over here and look at this fruit", and one of them took a picture of the fruit and showed it to others then you might have a stronger case.

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  8. An insult to dogs by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 3, Interesting

    something doesn't exactly sit right with me with the Judge's argument that the newspaper gave an implied consent to copy the newspaper. Part of the reasoning is that the newspaper permitted the user to "'right-click' and copy the article". This seems like a dog of an argument to me.

    As a dog owner, I take umbrage with that statement. It's a terrible argument on a few grounds, including those you mention as well as:

    1) The right click thing is ludicrous, as you state and more. The site doesn't provide right-click functionality, the browser does. The site in question would have had to take extreme measures (like the de Wees Allen gambit) to prevent it, which never ends up working anyway. Besides, there are fair uses for newspaper articles (which would presumably be killed by effective copy protection) - just not necessarily this one.

    2) Didn't we have this whole link vs. content thing before with sites that link to pirated works, CSS keys, things like that? Aren't "we" on the side that sharing a link is completely different than providing content? So they should be able to provide a *link* without that being interpreted as providing the content, right?

    3) I really, really don't like the "it was freely (as in beer) available, so now there's an implicit license. Sounds a lot like the whole 'GPL software is in the public domain

  9. enough by Jeek+Elemental · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think Ive been patient enough, you are starting to bore me now.
    While I dont like to, I will put my foot down now;

    The following commandments should be chiseled in stone, engraved by laser in a meteorite, embedded in the standard neck-chip or other method suitable for your preferred epoch:

    NO TRADEMARKS
    No string of characters, numbers or symbols may be claimed as property.
    Products may be labeled with, in addition to name, manufacturers address, which it is a sin to falsify.

    NO PATENTS
    If you are first with an idea, you may use that to your advantage or not.

    NO COPYRIGHT
    No restraints may be put on sharing of information and ideas.

    1. Re:enough by Myopic · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Hmmm. I don't know. That sounds like an ideological over-reaction to the current ideological over-reaction. I would prefer a balance, because I understand the arguments at both ends of this spectrum, and sympathize with them both.

    2. Re:enough by cgenman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You do realize that copyright law doesn't actually cover the sharing of information and ideas, but merely the particular expressive form that entails. If people were to have taken all of these stories and put them into their own words, the newspaper wouldn't have a copyright claim because the information contained therein is not copyrightable. But they didn't, they plagerized to some degree or another.

      Also, your description of "No Trademarks" quickly wanders back into the "oh, it's a tradmark" territory. You acknowledge the need for consumers to be able to reliably source the origins of the products they buy, and put a non-falsifiable identifier in there which discriminates manufacturers. Except, of course, that the address of a company doesn't really have any meaning in this day and age, as Apple for example has headquarters and manufacturing all over the world. So you have to fall back to some non-falsifiable unique identifier.

      For trademarks, I feel like the system needs to give legal costs+ punative damages against tradmark abusers who sue for opportunistic inactive tradmarks. But that overall the trademark system is OK.
      The patent system is badly, badly underfunded. If patent clerks had enough time to actually investigate patents, we might see a dropoff in false patents being granted. Bringing in a network of secret outside consultants might help.
      Copyright is getting to be a bit of a mess, but that's mainly due to stupid legislation pushed through by artists groups that don't actually represent the artists. Cut back mandatory damages for small-time personal infringement to something similar to physical theft, modify the DMCA to allow for ANY content protection bypassing so long as it is for things which are within the user's rights, and require the RIAA to sign up each damned artist individually and send each of them a statement every month with the money that they owe that particular artist.

    3. Re:enough by Migraineman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Look, if you're going to publish your "manifesto," it's gotta have more verbage. Folks won't take the outline version seriously. And posting it to Slashdot just won't do. You'll need to hijack a schoolbus full of nuns and kittens, hold them at gunpoint at the public library, and put on a hell of a show for the local media, lest they preempt you for the latest episode of "Big Brother: Who's Watching the Watchers?."

      Oh, and body armor. Definitely.

      On a more serious note, chucking the entire copyright and patent systems is swinging to the opposite still-busted extreme from what we have now. Instead of pseudo-permanent ownership of IP elements, you'll end up breeding a pack of predatory IP-stealers who are well funded, and who are capable of getting your product to market faster and cheaper than you can.

      Might I make a suggestion? Push copyright and patent durations back to something more sane - 10-20 years maybe? Make them inalienable - they're stuck to the original creators, and corporations don't qualify as "creators." People create; corporations are simply collections of people who agree to work for a common goal. When the work's creator dies, the IP immediately reverts to the Public, regardless of who it's licensed to. (Note: you can't motivate a corpse into creating additional works.) Finally, bring back the copyright registration requirement. If it's worth the protection, it's worth some effort on your part. The registration should include posting a source master to the Library of Congress, such that the escrowed copy may be presented to the People at the expiry of the copyright term, regardless of your ability to make that happen.

    4. Re:enough by Migraineman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You own it, until 14 years pass or you die. Within that period, you can license it as you see fit. However, if you license it to MegaCorp for the next 10 years, then slide under a bus the following day, the copyright goes *piff* and the work becomes public property immediately. No permanent licensing, no passing it along to your heirs.

      The "inalienable" part tethers the copyright to the blood-and-guts person who did the creating. Copyright is supposed to be an incentive for folks to create new things, no to be a welfare program for corporate interests.

  10. Re:Nice straw man there, Sonny by Myopic · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was wondering about the "copy this article" claim, so I went to the LVJ website. I went to the first news article which was

    http://www.lvrj.com/news/bill-scott-anticipates-attempt-to-clear-police-in-costco-slaying--trash-his-dead-son-s-name-103510074.html

    There you can see, at the bottom of the article, a whole slew of "share on some other website" links, including Digg and Slashdot. The last icon is a heart, which I think is a way of adding the article to some kind of personal LVJ list of favorite articles.

    I don't see a link making it trivial to copy the text of the article, though of course it's no harder than selecting it and copying it. So, if that's right, I think that would be a hindrance to this defense, because the "implied license" would be to share a link to the article on aggregation sites which exist for the purpose of sharing links, not full articles. Moreover, the implied license would probably only apply to the listed sites.

    Also, there are two separate conspicuous copyright notices on the page. Of course, I can't say whether those notices were present in the past at the time of the alleged infringement.

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    • Your mileage may vary
    • Reform copyright now
  11. The end of the world as we know it? by Chas · · Score: 3, Funny

    But I feel fine!

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  12. Law is not code. Not exactly. by metrometro · · Score: 3, Informative

    Judges are human, and Righthaven is a bag of dicks. Righthaven sues their own sources for posting stories that the sources gave to the paper for free. It's entirely likely the judge stayed up late looking for ways to get these people off the hook. Law is not code. It is a human institution subject to human anti-dickhead prejudices.

    This usually works in the other direction: Internet freedoms are frequently tested in the court on behalf of creepy child abusers. Maybe we should try to avoid that?