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Scientists Using Lasers To Cool Molecules

An anonymous reader writes "Ever since audiences heard Goldfinger utter the famous line, 'No, Mr. Bond; I expect you to die,' as a laser beam inched its way toward James Bond and threatened to cut him in half, lasers have been thought of as white-hot beams of intensely focused energy capable of burning through anything in their path. Now a team of Yale physicists has used lasers for a completely different purpose, employing them to cool molecules down to temperatures near absolute zero, about -460 degrees Fahrenheit. Their new method for laser cooling, described in the online edition of the journal Nature, is a significant step toward the ultimate goal of using individual molecules as information bits in quantum computing."

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  1. OMG Sharks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    .. with friggin' freeze rays on their heads .... *groan*

  2. Re:Laser cooling? by ClickOnThis · · Score: 5, Informative

    Laser cooling has been used for quite some time. What's the story here? The temperature?

    The difference here is that they have used it to cool molecules. Up to now, only atoms have been cooled using this method.

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  3. Farenheit? by muyla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What about human readable units for once? maybe 1 Kelvin or -272C would be OK

    1. Re:Farenheit? by Lifyre · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or if you're going to use worthless units at least use Rankine...

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    2. Re:Farenheit? by rossdee · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree - I can understand Fahrenheit for weather and human body temps, but for cryogenics you should be using kelvin.

    3. Re:Farenheit? by easterberry · · Score: 2, Informative

      As someone who isn't American I can't even do that. My entire knowledge of Farenheit is that 0 C is around 32 F. and 451 F is where paper burns. Also the conversion rate is like TempInCelcius * (9/5) -32 or something. It's really a terrible system to use for a scienctific article.

    4. Re:Farenheit? by Wonko+the+Sane · · Score: 2, Informative

      But nobody uses Rankine for anything.

      That's not true at all.

      If you are doing heat transfer calculations in systems that use the Fahrenheit scale for measuring temperature then you absolutely need the Rankine scale.

      There are plenty of real-world systems that measure boiler temperature and cooling water temperature in Fahrenheit.

  4. Energy, not heat. by captaindomon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Laser beams are focused energy in the form of electromagnetic radiation, not energy in the form of thermal entropy of molecules in matter. There is a difference. Laser beams can transmit their heat to matter (they normally do), but laser beams are not "Hot".

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    1. Re:Energy, not heat. by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You have no idea what a laser actually is, do you?

  5. "...lasers have been thought of as white-hot..." by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wrong. Laser beams are very cold. The photons are highly ordered and there is very little random motion among them.

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  6. Who the hell... by ameline · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who the hell uses Fahrenheit for anything remotely connected to science? I can understand translating 0K to -273.15C, then 1K is -272.15C -- but how meaningful to anyone is -459.67F?

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    1. Re:Who the hell... by rubycodez · · Score: 2, Insightful

      yes, and moreover, the fact that Bond was going to get cut in half and die was not the greatest source of anxiety in that scene, it was that the laser was headed for Bond's *junk* first

    2. Re:Who the hell... by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Who the hell uses Fahrenheit for anything remotely connected to science?"

      First and foremost, you write for your audience. If your intended audience typically uses degrees Fahrenheit, you use degrees Fahrenheit. That, or you triple the size of your article, with the bulk of it devoted to phrases like "triple point of water" that will make your audience's eyes glaze over.

      Second, you're not going to do very well in a thermodynamics course in the United States (let alone get meaningful work afterward) if you can't handle degrees Rankine as well as kelvins. Much like writing for your audience, you work with the tools you have at hand, rather than insisting that someone rip out a perfectly good boiler simply because it wasn't built to SI specifications.

      Finally, they already said "absolute zero," so you already have a perfectly valid thermodynamic temperature measurement. So long as they're using a US unit alongside it rather than instead of it, why do you care?

    3. Re:Who the hell... by demonbug · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who the hell uses Fahrenheit for anything remotely connected to science? I can understand translating 0K to -273.15C, then 1K is -272.15C -- but how meaningful to anyone is -459.67F?

      Yes, because -273.15C provides so much more information than -459.67F.
      It really, really doesn't matter. Why do people even complain about things like this? Is it so hard to plug the number into a calculator to get it in units you are capable of comprehending?

      If you are going to complain that Fahrenheit was used, then at least have the decency to request Kelvin (the proper SI unit) rather than Celsius.

  7. Laser cooling is not new... by MiniMike · · Score: 4, Informative

    They may have a new method, but laser cooling itself is not new. There was even a Nobel prize awarded in 1997. It seems the advancement here is that they are using laser cooling on molecules (strontium monofluoride) instead of single atoms.

    1. Re:Laser cooling is not new... by BeardedChimp · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I actually attended a guest lecture by him in 2002 at Queens University where pretty much the entire talk was about cooling things with lasers.

      Amazing lecture actually, he shoved about 20 balloons into a small liquid nitrogen flask throughout slowly arousing curiosity. Then whipped them out, frisbying them over the heads of students. The balloons were flat but began to expand even in mid air. Damn that was cool.

      Anyway, at the time he explained that the current limit on their approach was being on earth. Essentially they trap the atoms inside a magnetic field and slowly uses momentum transfer from the photons to the atoms to cool them. Then once they have reached the limit of that approach they would expand the magnetic field so that the atoms now filled a larger space and tada you have traditional cooling.

      The limit at this point was that they were unable to expand the magnetic field any further without losing its stability. To get round this he said the future aim was to do it in space and expand the field massively.
      That was 2002, no idea where they have gotten with that technology now.

  8. Well, that's clueless for you by Angst+Badger · · Score: 4, Informative

    lasers have been thought of as white-hot beams of intensely focused energy

    If there is anything that lasers are not, it's white.

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    1. Re:Well, that's clueless for you by maxwell+demon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If there is anything that lasers are not, it's white.

      Yes, Lasers are white - in the QCD sense (photons don't carry color charge) :-)

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    2. Re:Well, that's clueless for you by toppavak · · Score: 2, Informative

      Depends on the laser. Many are commercially available as fiber-lasers emitting ultra-broadband (read:white) light.

  9. Fahrenheit? Really? by dcmoebius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Come on. Just say 0 K.

    Acknowledging the appropriate SI units only stings for a little while.

    1. Re:Fahrenheit? Really? by mandark1967 · · Score: 3, Funny

      OK.

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  10. Isn't Heat Related To Both Velocity and Vibration? by nato10 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If memory serves, the heat of a group of atoms is based both on their kinetic energy and vibrational energy. In gasses and, to a lesser extent, liquids, the average velocities of atoms is one factor determining factor of how much heat is in the gas or liquid, but so is the vibrational energy of the atom (otherwise solids wouldn't be capable of getting hot, which they clearly can).

    So while these scientists have demonstrated being able to reduce the kinetic energy of an atom to zero, the article says nothing about being able to do so for its vibrational energy. It seems very possible that hitting an atom with lasers may be able to reduce its kinetic energy but may, depending on the frequency of light used, actually increase its vibrational energy.

    So, this approach may work fine for gasses, in which certain atoms can be made motionless and, as long as you keep other atoms from interacting with them, they never pass on their vibrational energy, and thus can be seen as being very cold. But it's hard to see how such an approach has much merit for atoms in liquids or solids.

  11. Re:"...lasers have been thought of as white-hot... by nacturation · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Wrong. Laser beams are very cold. The photons are highly ordered and there is very little random motion among them.

    Wrong? It's not true that the general Bond-watching audience thinks of lasers as being white hot?

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  12. Re:So basically this means by zero_out · · Score: 4, Funny

    Shooting things with laser until they stop moving cools them? I guess its for more than cooking now.

    When I shot the neighbor's cat, with my CO2 laser, until it stopped moving, it cooled down. It dropped from 101.5 degrees F, to about 63 degrees F (ambient temperature at the coolest part of that night) . It took several hours, but it cooled down.

    [disclaimer] The above statement was purely jest. I have never shot anything with a laser, and have never intentionally harmed an animal. Any agency that is sniffing my packets will not find the stench of wrongdoing here. Just the stench of a bad joke.

  13. Do you expect me to talk? by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, Mr. Bond; I expect you to yell like a little girl while I am freezing your balls!

  14. Re:Laser cooling? by SleazyRidr · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is why I read /. I saw the headline, remembered trying to explain laser cooling to my Dad 10 years ago, and cam here to post that it was old news. The first thing I see however is your post telling me exactly what's going on. Thank you ClickOnThis for saving me time and frustration.

  15. Re:"...lasers have been thought of as white-hot... by Jahava · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wrong? It's not true that the general Bond-watching audience thinks of lasers as being white hot?

    It's pretty obvious: The atoms are stirred, not shaken.

  16. News from 2010 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What%27s+the+difference+between+an+atom+and+a+molecule

  17. ridiculous summary by jmizrahi · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is a particularly bad science article. First of all, this research is interesting because they are laser cooling molecules. The article makes it sound like the new thing here is using lasers to cool. Laser cooling of atoms has been around for decades, but laser cooling of molecules is considerably more difficult because molecules have far more resonant transitions than do atoms (this is due to the additional rotational and vibrational degrees of freedom.) Traditional Doppler laser cooling relies on cycling transitions, in which the atoms go back and forth between two levels, losing momentum as they cycle. If the particles can "escape" to other levels, the cycle breaks and cooling stops. Traditionally, in atoms this problem is solved by having other lasers on the table which "plug up" these holes by repumping the atoms back into the cooling cycle. With molecules, there has historically been far too many holes to simply plug them with other lasers.

    Second, Fahrenheit? Seriously? Nano/Micro/MilliKelvin is the appropriate unit.

  18. Re:This is nothing new. by geekoid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yeah, you hold your breath until that happens.

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  19. Come on throw me a bone here people by sudden.zero · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!

  20. With this laser... by manwargi · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...and five missiles, we can finally kill a Metroid.