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Scientists Find New Target For Alzhiemer's

GarryFre writes "Neurological researchers at Rush University Medical Center have found a new therapeutic target that can potentially lead to a new way to prevent the progression of Alzheimer's disease. The target called neutral sphingomyelinase (N-SMase) is a protein which, when activated, can cause a chain of reactions in the cell leading to neuronal death and memory loss. Already a substance has been found that shows some promise in halting the progression of the disease."

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  1. Scary, scary illness by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I admit being truly scared of alzheimer's.

    It may be completely irrational, but cancer looks much less scary in comparison.

    1. Re:Scary, scary illness by Defenestrar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Never known anyone with the disease have you?

    2. Re:Scary, scary illness by TheLink · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Regularly super-sizing your McD meals can help prevent Alzheimer's. Heck it even reduces your chances of getting cancer.

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    3. Re:Scary, scary illness by srussia · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Regularly super-sizing your McD meals can help prevent Alzheimer's. Heck it even reduces your chances of getting cancer.

      I'm being serious. Maybe one could use a nicotine patch instead. Here's another study: Beneficial effects of nicotine

      From the abstract:

      "When chronically taken, nicotine may result in: (1) positive reinforcement, (2) negative reinforcement, (3) reduction of body weight, (4) enhancement of performance, and protection against: (5) Parkinson's disease (6) Tourette's disease (7) Alzheimers disease, (8) ulcerative colitis and (9) sleep apnea. The reliability of these effects varies greatly but justifies the search for more therapeutic applications for this interesting compound.

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    4. Re:Scary, scary illness by Rifter13 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In the end, all you truly have, is your mind. Who you are, who you were, and who you will be, is all in your mind. Cancer kills the body... Alzhiemer's kills who you are, and who you could be, destroying your memory of who you were...

      I agree, other diseases, such as cancer do not put as much fear into me, as much as Alzhiemer's.

    5. Re:Scary, scary illness by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It may be completely irrational, but cancer looks much less scary in comparison.

      They're both horrible diseases. Cancer is physically torturous, alzheimer's mentally torturous. Both are hell on the people who love the afflicted.

      There are no good ways to die, but those two diseases have to be among the worst ways.

    6. Re:Scary, scary illness by digitalhermit · · Score: 2, Funny

      Heck, there are plenty of bright sides. It's postively a glowing sphere of joy.

      You get to hide your own Easter eggs.

      Every day you meet new people.

      You never worry about stuff. Car? What car?

      (I kid, I kid... but laughter *is* the best medicine.)

    7. Re:Scary, scary illness by $RANDOMLUSER · · Score: 4, Funny

      In the end, all you truly have, is your mind.

      I think, therefore I ... mmmmm pancakes

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    8. Re:Scary, scary illness by geekoid · · Score: 2, Informative

      actually, you need a nornicotine patch.

      ProTip: Don't quote abstracts or conclusions of a study without a link to the actual study.

      Sadly, after you have read a lot of studies you find that some of the conclusion and abstracts do not accurate reflect that data. Usually because they don't bother to consult a biostatician. If they do, it's usually way to late into the study.

      Did you notice that one and two conflict? They is usually an indicator that the finding aren't above placebo. I haven't read the study, so I could be wrong. There is a first time for everything~

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    9. Re:Scary, scary illness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Alzhiemer's kills who you are, and who you could be, destroying your memory of who you were

      My Grandmother passed away this past December but had Alzheimer's for many years, progressively getting worse over time. In addition to what you list, I'd like to add that it has a large impact on those that care about the person. As my Grandmother's Alzheimer's state worsened, my mother and uncle (her only surviving children) became very frustrated in trying to care for her. Caring for someone that doesn't even know you is rough. Trying to hold a conversation, only to repeat it, knowing that it won't be remembered, is frustrating. You essentially care for the body of someone who "died" already.

      My family, probably like many others, has plenty of medical conditions to worry about. Alzheimer's is the one I fear above the others, not so much for what it will do to me, but for what it will do to those I love.

      Mij

    10. Re:Scary, scary illness by thedonger · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And you don't need to buy new books. Just read the same one over and over again.

      Unless you're Terry Pratchett; it won't be long before he writes the same one again.

      You may be on to something. In addition to having to wait 22.3 years in order for a tragedy to become funny, there is also a certain window before hand during which it is also funny. IRT Alzheimer's, one might say, "[that author who committed suicide recently whose name I have forgotten] cured his Alzheimer's - with a bullet! What? Too soon?" Maybe a year (or ten - Alzheimer's is tricky that way) from now Terry Pratchet will be alive but suffering more from the disease, at which point the reception of your joke may cause you to say, "What? Too late?"

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    11. Re:Scary, scary illness by ImprovOmega · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There are no good ways to die,

      I wouldn't say that. Running along, healthy as a horse then suddenly keeling over at age 80ish seems a pretty good way to go. Lingering deaths pretty much universally suck, but there are ways to die (naturally) that are quick, relatively painless, and don't cause long-term stress and suffering for those that love you.

    12. Re:Scary, scary illness by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In the end, all you truly have, is your mind. Who you are, who you were, and who you will be, is all in your mind. Cancer kills the body... Alzhiemer's kills who you are, and who you could be, destroying your memory of who you were...

      I agree, other diseases, such as cancer do not put as much fear into me, as much as Alzhiemer's.

      That's what I thought. Then I saw someone dying of breast cancer that metastasized to various parts of the body. When enough parts start failing, your brain starts getting less of the chemicals it needs and more of the chemicals that cause problems. Yeah, I've seen non-brain cancer make a person lose memory of what they did a few minutes ago, collapse into confusion and incomprehensibility punctuated by short moments of complete lucidity, and finally lapse into a coma that ended in death.

      You know what? It ALL sucks. If it doesn't kill you instantly so you never experience it, dying is a hellish experience. Mind and body aren't independent - what hurts one hurts the other.

    13. Re:Scary, scary illness by gad_zuki! · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Funny that. My dad has both and if I had to pick I'd say the Alzheimer's, by a wide margin, is hardest on him and his family. Its not just the forgetfulness, which is only one symptom, its the dementia and the loss of basic skills. He more or less lives in a dreamworld, never sure where he is, when it is, who he is. Its worse at night and during the day he seems okay, but he has no idea what is going on. He will sometimes latch onto a conspiracy theory like believing some stranger he just met is trying to hurt him or stole from him 20 years ago. His emotions are more or less out of control. He's lost most of his skills. Its not that he doesn't have the wherewithal to cook, its just he doesn't know how or exactly what an oven is anymore. Alzheimer's is like 100 diseases in one. Its really incredible how much damage it does and we're not even in the late stages.

      Cancer on the other hand is difficult, but its not much more than driving him to the hospital for a chemo treatment every few weeks and dealing with the side-effects. If I had to pick, I'd pick cancer without a second thought. The treatments for it are much better. Alzheimer's is a guaranteed slow and painful death sentence that begins with the loss of one's self. I hate to say it, but I think the most humane thing would be if the cancer killed him before the Alzheimer's got worse. At a certain point they just lie in bed, crap themselves, cry, and scream. Man, how I wish there were better treatments or a cure for this. Its fucking awful.

    14. Re:Scary, scary illness by smellsofbikes · · Score: 3, Interesting
      In addition to trying to deal with someone who doesn't remember you, there can be major inter-family problem because at least some Alzheimers patients can no longer tell what happened from what they think happened, so you run into situations where the person says "why doesn't my son ever come visit me?" when the son in question is sitting in the room, and other family members, not realizing that the person is flat-out wrong, start resenting one another based on the testimony of, well, a crazy person.

      And then the patient starts saying the nursing staff is abusive, and that the doctor hurts her when he checks her out -- and who do you believe? because while you know your grandmother is now basically totally unreliable, you also know that the staff knows that too and if they *were* abusive, who would know? and so you run into situations where some family members are trying to keep the patient happy and others are saying the patient needs to be moved to another facility, and others are so upset about the whole situation that they've stopped even visiting...

      When my grandmother finally died, the sense of relief was palpable, and several years later, most all her relatives are friendly to one another again, and that was with a good nursing home, everyone living locally and visiting every week, and all of us talking regularly about the problems with each other to try to keep exactly this from happening.

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    15. Re:Scary, scary illness by godel_56 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My Grandmother passed away this past December but had Alzheimer's for many years, progressively getting worse over time. In addition to what you list, I'd like to add that it has a large impact on those that care about the person. As my Grandmother's Alzheimer's state worsened, my mother and uncle (her only surviving children) became very frustrated in trying to care for her. Caring for someone that doesn't even know you is rough. Trying to hold a conversation, only to repeat it, knowing that it won't be remembered, is frustrating. You essentially care for the body of someone who "died" already. Mij

      I think Alzheimer's sufferers should consider euthanizing while they still have the capacity to make a rational decision. I would, under those circumstances, even if only to save the family and society from the burden of looking after a "living dead" person.

      BTW, for a possible cheap method of prevention, consider turmeric/curcumin.

      From http://www.bri.ucla.edu/bri_weekly/news_060206.asp

      "Turmeric is also being studied for its ability to help treat Alzheimer's disease. The prevalence of Alzheimer's among adults in India aged 70 to 79 is among the world's lowest. It is 4.4 times less than the rate in the United States. A 2004 study with mice published in the Journal of Biological Chemistry suggested that curcumin might be of help for Alzheimer's patients. The study, conducted by UCLA and Veterans Affairs scientists, showed that a rodent chow laced with curcumin slowed the accumulation in mouse brains of protein fragments known as beta amyloids. They are considered key to the development of Alzheimer's. Curcumin did this more powerfully than many other drugs being tested as Alzheimer's treatments, said Cole, the study's principal investigator. "

      By far the cheapest form of turmeric is as bulk powder from Asian spice shops, but getting extracts in capsule form from a vitamin company would be much easier to take.

  2. Hope for Pratchett? by Sparkycat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It seems like Alzheimer's research is progressing surprisingly rapidly. I wonder if treatments will come soon enough to save the minds of people already in the early stages? Terry Pratchett in particular springs to mind.

    1. Re:Hope for Pratchett? by Defenestrar · · Score: 3, Informative

      Pratchett has early onset which tends to be faster paced.

    2. Re:Hope for Pratchett? by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well, if Ron Paul has his way, the rich, and maybe, if they're feeling generous that day, they'll pick a few poor people suffering from the disease. You know, a Libertarian paradise.

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    3. Re:Hope for Pratchett? by jimicus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think it's fair to say Alzheimer's research is getting a lot more press than it was getting even three years ago - before Sir Pterry made his announcement. He's done an enormous amount to bring Alzheimer's into the public eye, whereas previously it was the sort of thing people talked about in hushed tones when discussing the fate of an elderly relative, frequently not even daring to say "Alzheimer".

      That alone has probably brought in more money for Alzheimer's research than anything else. Frankly, it's high time too. It's a cruel, cruel condition that I wouldn't wish on anyone. Not only does the sufferer slowly lose their mind, but their relatives get a ringside seat watching it happen in a sort of morbid horror show, unable to do a great deal but see the person they love die while their body keeps going.

  3. Re:I hope by Defenestrar · · Score: 4, Informative

    The type of Alzheimer's they talk about here is caused by ß-amyloidosis which is a mis folded protein disease (prion - like mad cow). What happens is that normal secondary protein structure is converted from an form to ß causing conformational changes in the protein's tertiary structure leading to insolubility (this insoluble protein is now called an amyloid). Supposedly the Rice researchers have found a way to prevent the ß-amyloid deposits from causing cell damage, however unless it's 100% efficient it won't be enough because misfolded proteins are "contagious" - that is they cause other normally folded protiens to convert to the insoluble misfolded amyloid which will proceed with exponential growth. Eventually you'll have every one of those proteins in the ß configuration.

  4. Re:Target for Alzheimers? by AltGrendel · · Score: 2, Informative

    You mean this Ted Stephens? The one that died in the plane crash?

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  5. Nice article by mesri · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pretty good article (the original in J. Neurosci). Alzheimer's has long been believed to be caused by aggregates of amyloid-beta protein, but exactly how they kill neurons (and in what stage of aggregation) has been pretty controversial. They showed a pathway from the amyloid-beta through this N-SMase to neuron death in small assemblies _and_ in larger aggregates, which should make everybody happy (or maybe no one). The important caveat though is that this was in vitro testing, and everything to do with studying Alzheimer's has been confounded by the subtle differences between in vivo and in vitro.

  6. Re:So messed up by Digicrat · · Score: 3, Informative

    90-95% of the time that's true, but alzheimer's isn't always just an old timers disease. It's called early-onset Alzeimer's disease

  7. Re:So messed up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    When they were learning to talk, "old timer's disease" is how my kids mispronounced it. But as to "prejudice against old people", unlike arthritis, only old timers get alzheimer's.

    For variable definitions of "old timers." Alzheimers can come decades before legal retirement age.

  8. No hope for Pratchett! by Frans+Faase · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it is not progressing surprisingly rapidly. Because I do have a partner with Early-Onset Alzheimer's Disease, I follow the scientic news announcements, and I have to say that this particular news announcement is like many that are made almost every month. This is only talking about a potential target. It does not even talk about a possible medicine. If a medicine is found, it usually takes at least five year before it could become available for the general public. Even if this is a valid target, it could still take several years before finding a medicine that only works on the target. So, it could still take ten years before a medicine based on this target could become available.

    Alzheimer's Disease is a progressive and fatal disease with an life expectancy of about 10 years after diagnoses. So, based on this facts I would conclude that this is no hope for Pratchett!

    It is true that Alzheimer's Disease is now where cancer used to be fifty years ago. What many people don't know is that the total costs for Alzheimer's Disease, in the Western world, are already larger than the total costs for cancer, and are expected to rise rapidly in face of demographic developments, especially in Europe.

  9. Re:Scary, scary illness FWIW by HiThere · · Score: 3, Informative

    My father died of complications of Altzheimers.

    It was hell on my mother for years, but *he* seemed to enjoy it.

    (The complication was that a year or two after he had been "hospitalized" and gotten to the point where they had to strap him into the bed, one night he stood up in bed and fell out of it, landing on his head and breaking his neck.)

    Altzheimers is hard on those close to the patient, not so much on the patient. But this *does* depend on the form. Some people stay aware that they are losing their minds. My father never seemed to notice. I still remember him trying to seduce my wife while both my mother and I were in the room, he was confined to a bed. He was stroking her arm and telling her he didn't have any family...

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  10. Re:I hope by geekoid · · Score: 3, Insightful

    One would presume it would be regular medication, not a cure. This is just treatment for a symptom; which is a good thing.

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  11. "Cell", 17-sep-2010: it's an iron/zinc disorder by St.Creed · · Score: 2, Informative

    The magazine 'Cell' of 17-sep-2010, published research from an Australian research group showing that the plaques are caused by a chainreaction with APP (Ameloid Precursor Protein). This is caused by Zinc-ions blocking APP from functioning, so they can't remove iron from the brain (Fe2+). The iron causes the cells to die. Also, the APP is broken down and stored as plaques. These plaques cause more zinc to stack and disable even more APP, leading to a runaway chainreaction.

    note: I can't paste anything in this box or I'd post the link (Chrome is broken again or slashdot's javascript is braindead again). But do look it up. This looks like the key to the disease.

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