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China Embargos Rare Earth Exports To Japan

Hugh Pickens writes "The NY Times reports that the Chinese government has placed a trade embargo on all exports to Japan of a crucial category of minerals used in products like hybrid cars, wind turbines and guided missiles. China mines 93 percent of the world's rare earth minerals, and more than 99 percent of the world's supply of some of the most prized rare earths, which sell for several hundred dollars a pound. The embargo comes after a dispute over Japan's detention of a Chinese fishing trawler captain whose ship collided with two Japanese coast guard vessels as he tried to fish in waters controlled by Japan but long claimed by China. The Chinese embargo is likely to have immediate repercussions in Washington. The House Committee on Science and Technology is scheduled to review a detailed bill to subsidize the revival of the American rare earths industry and the House Armed Services Committee is scheduled to review the American military dependence on Chinese rare earth elements."

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  1. Re:Not quite that clear cut, but important nonethe by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ya we need to look in to this. Despite the name, Rare Earths aren't. There are plenty of them. Of course they have to be mined, refined, and all that shit. That is largely left to China simply because China pays people shit and has no safety or environmental standards. However as you accurately note, they are important, we need to be supplying ourselves.

  2. Summary and Article Misleading... by coolmoose25 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... But not intentionally so... if you RTFA, and I did, you'll find that rare earths actually aren't really rare. So while China MINES 93 percent of the world's rare earths, and thus supplies 99% of it, most countries COULD also do this if they wanted to. In fact, the last mine in the US closed in 2002 because, according to the article, of a radiation leak... seems these rare earth's are usually found with radioactive thorium and uranium. So what has happened is that China positioned itself as a reliable supplier of rare earths, and did so cheaply. Although the article doesn't say this, my guess is that China probably doesn't take the same safety precautions with mines and the thorium, which the article did say was costly to dispose of.

    What has happened here is that China, again, produces things in an environmentally unfriendly way (since they apparently don't care much about the cost of crapping on their own country), and thus does so with cheap labor, thus becoming the most economically viable producer. Only now do they start to flex that muscle they have built...

    So the world has a few choices - they can continue to rely on China, and deal with politically induced supply disruptions, find other countries that are willing to cheaply crap on their own environments and buy from them, or produce such materials locally but at much higher cost.

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  3. Re:Japan is a dead rock by DesScorp · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In terms of natural resources, Japan is practically void of anything valuable. Lucky for the Japanese, China is still pissed over that whole "Rape of Nanking" deal.

    China is one of the oldest civilizations on Earth, and at one time had perhaps the most powerful. And yet, after their golden age, they withered and spent the rest of history being what we would call a Third World Country. Only now are they finally ready for world power status again.

    Contrast them against Japan, who only a little more than a century ago, was a dirt poor, backwards country that had to be literally forced at the barrel of a gun to open their doors to the world. By the 1930's... scant decades away... they became one of the most powerful industrialized countries in the world, creating a war machine that conquered a huge part of the globe in just a few years.

    And then we nuked them. They went from world power, to shambles, a conquered country with two radioactive wastes where cities had been. And in less than three decades after that, they became one of the wealthiest and most technologically advanced countries on the planet... again... arguably more powerful economically than they were at the hight of their military might.

    They did all this... twice... in the span of a single century, with no natural resources to speak of, save one: the Japanese people themselves.

    I wouldn't count Japan out just yet.

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  4. Re:No worries by wanax · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I assume what the original poster means by pseudo-capitalism is that there is state control over certain sectors of the economy, and intervention in others (often at the whim of party officials with greased palms). In particular, this means that China has systematically undervalued their currency by ~20-40% against the dollar. This has several effects, the most obvious being that it substantially increases the competitiveness of China's exports (and cost of imports). This benefits a specific group of well connected industries in China, which among others are the mining and dirty manufacturing industries that are depleting China's natural resources and exporting them as quickly as they can. The trade-off domestically however, is that it decreases the buying power of the average worker considerably and leads to inflation. It leads to inflation because to maintain the undervaluation, China's central bank has to intervene in the currency markets and buy dollars to prevent the Yuan from appreciating, which increases the domestic money supply. By having to buy dollars (ie: US treasuries) China is essentially stuck buying huge amounts of US debt as long as it wants to maintain the export edge from having an undervalued currency (which is causing huge domestic pressures within China, there have been quite a few labor riots and urban-rural tension in the past few years). This has two effects on the US: one is that it keeps interest rates low and our debt cheap, the other is that it makes our exports 20-40% more expensive, costing the US at least a million jobs (most estimates are about 1.2m) at present.

    So China is stuck with a dilemma: they can't become a first world country until they let their currency float, because their average citizens have reduced buying power. But they can't let their currency float until they have an economy that is sufficiently robust that it doesn't require a 20-40% import tariff/export subsidy (which is what the currency manipulation is doing), which means developing a domestic market under conditions of high inflation (currently ~8%) and high interest rates (currently 5.3%). And they have to do it before resource pressure (particularly food, water and pollution) overcomes economic growth, while funding a large chunk of the US current account deficit in the mean time. If China doesn't manage that, then both the current government and the economy collapses, and China goes through another cycle of regionalism and stagnation (and if China does manage it, we're probably looking at a world war over scarce resources).

  5. Re:I can see the historians now by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I live in Hong Kong, which was occupied by Japan in 1941. Terrible as that was, massacres, rape, starvation; it was over 60 years ago. The "memory" of what happened is not simply recollection of the few remaining people who suffered, but the great mythology promoted by the Beijing government, demonising the Japanese. Admittedly, it's not hard with things like the Nanjing Massacre. But that didn't happen in a vacuum. The Chinese Communists and before them , Nationalists, churned the country into bloody mud for decades in their struggle for power, and killing untold millions. And Mao in the 50s and 60s in his insane Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution killed at least 50 million of his own people. That is something that is simply ignored and never spoken of in China, let alone taught in school history. Yet the memory of the Japanese atrocities much longer ago is referred to daily -- many suspect as a way to distract attention from current or past problems.

    And this current idiocy was triggered by a Chinese fishing boat that rammed a Japanese coastguard ship, and the captain was detained. The islands where this happened have been occupied by Japan for over a century and were never populated by anyone before that. After WWII Japan was forced to give back all the territory it had occupied in Korea and China, and none bothered at the time about these insignificant islands. But about 20 years ago Chinese started wrapping themselves in the flag and calling this a great violation of their sovereignty. An issue that should be settled by low level bureaucrats is over and over again used to tear open the scabs of a war that ended in 1945.