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Man Gets 12-Year Jail Sentence For Planting Child Porn On Enemy's Computer

An anonymous reader writes with an update to a story we discussed in August about Neil Weiner, a man who sought to ruin the life of a school caretaker by planting child pornography on his computer. Weiner has now been convicted on two counts of possession of child pornography and one count of perverting the course of justice. He was sentenced to 12 years in jail. "The judge told Weiner that his plot to have Mr. Thompson sacked and prosecuted very nearly succeeded. Police had been careful not to make public their arrest of the caretaker and only informed those at the school who needed to know, he said. 'But you gratuitously and spitefully informed the local press so that he and his wife suffered the distress of the unwelcome publicity which followed.' Mr. Thompson's health and that of his wife suffered. The judge said: 'There are still those who believe, and probably always will, that he is a pedophile. I am wholly satisfied that Mr. Thompson is innocent.' ... Weiner had discovered the caretaker's password by looking over his shoulder one day and been caught doing so. When Mr. Thompson was asked why he did not change it, he said he wished he had, adding: 'Who in their worst nightmares would could have thought that anyone could stoop to do what he did?'"

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  1. Perverting the course of justice. by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What an appropriate charge. Also, this guy can rot.

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    1. Re:Perverting the course of justice. by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How much time would his victim have gotten? He should get the same + one year for being an asshole.

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    2. Re:Perverting the course of justice. by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What an appropriate charge. Also, this guy can rot.

      The truly sad thing is that he very well may be rotting alongside victims of the more successful (weren't caught) perverters of justice. Unless, of course, we just assume this is the first time someone has ever attempted this.
       
      It'd be interesting to see what percentage of those convicted of possession of child pornography claimed they were framed/had-no-knowledge-of-the-pornography, and how much effort law enforcement spent in checking the validity of those claims.

      I suspect that the numbers would be pretty damn disappointing/terrifying.

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    3. Re:Perverting the course of justice. by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Fired is one thing.
      Fired, for kiddie porn, is something else entirely.
      Simply being accused is enough to ruin your life.

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    4. Re:Perverting the course of justice. by hawguy · · Score: 4, Informative

      Dude, you were a contractor - you can be let go for any reason, even including "I don't like you". All I have to do is call the agency and say "Hey, XXXX is not working out, he's not a good cultural fit here...can you send someone else?"

      If you don't like the instability of being a contractor, don't do it - become a permanent employee instead. (possibly for less money, but hey everything in life is a tradeoff)

    5. Re:Perverting the course of justice. by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...And this wouldn't be a lot less of a problem if society weren't conditioned to grossly overreact and gang-stalk people because of a few images.

      In before slippery slope assholes who believe that every person who looks up heroin online is destined to be a junkie.

    6. Re:Perverting the course of justice. by ebuck · · Score: 4, Informative

      Excuse me, but DHS is larger than any three previously existing departments combined. At one time it was in danger of becoming half the executive branch's manpower. And that dept was the brainchild of the groups which still have sway over FOX News. They tell you they stand for smaller government, but they really only want to cut the regulatory agencies, and grow the others.

      Drilling regulatory cuts really worked out well for us (no pun intended), and with the salmonella poisoning of Spinach, Peanuts, and Eggs in the recent three years, I would say that the FDA cuts must have worked out just as well. Bank regulatory cuts seem to have helped us tremendously, and I shudder to know what cuts we haven't heard about yet.

      Perhaps FOX is just for all out unregulated economies. Maybe that's fine by you, but a truly unregulated economy works like a mugging. There's no protection for those who honor agreements under such a system, they are at a disadvantage to those who wield their money and power in unscrupulous ways.

      As far as exposing myself to ideas, there's the daily drone of FOX on the lunch room TV. I would be glad to expose myself to any new ideas on FOX, but there aren't any. It's the same ideas we've heard since the late 80's.

      By the way, FOX consistently rallies against the deficit, yet they rally against raising taxes. They think we can "starve" our government down to a smaller size by just denying them money. It's not a bad plan, if you are into surface level thinking. Try using their logic with your local bank concerning your mortgage; see how far it gets you.

      We borrowed our deficit. The terms and agreements made to obtain that money are not going to un-write themselves because we're starving our loan repayments. In addition, if we even hint at weakening our resolve to honor those commitments, our national loan rating will slip. That will make this market crash look like peanuts as we watch the interest rate on 13 Trillion dollars hike up a percent.

      You're smaller government plea falls on deaf ears when the graphs look like this. Naturally, you'll vote for the propaganda party, and I shudder to think what will happen to the debt then.

      By the way, yesterday it was reported that if we just repealed all the Bush-era tax cuts, the budget would be very close to being balanced. Sure, you might call it a spend-and-tax plan, but it's better than a spend-and-borrow plan.

    7. Re:Perverting the course of justice. by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In fairness, that's not all GOP'ers, it's primarily those that come from the bible belt or need their electoral votes in Presidential elections.

      Yes, but they are the most vocal and active of the party and are routinely referred to as the "base" of the party.

      They haven't done much,

      You mean nothing. What little they have shrunk has been far outweighed by their gross spending.

      hence the rise of the Tea Party.

      Tthe party of "keep the government out of my Medicare!!", right?

    8. Re:Perverting the course of justice. by Zarel · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think you're talking about 12 Angry Men.

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  2. Lethal Weapon VII by alphatel · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The use of child porn as a weapon will now land you in jail longer than
    • Armed Robbery with an AK-47
    • Shooting into a crowd
    • Selling heroin to children

    All of the above combined

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    1. Re:Lethal Weapon VII by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

      The ultimate weapon of the twenty first century: a catapult that fires naked children at your enemies.

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    2. Re:Lethal Weapon VII by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Which was what was going to befall his victim had the person not been cleared. It's only fitting that he now gets put into that spot himself.

      Correction, that's exactly what's happening to the person anyway. Just as the judge said, there will forever after be people who are likely going to believe the man is a pedo even after the judge cleared his name. I doubt the press will publish the results of the trial as front page news since it will show that they were fooled by the man. At best perhaps a small article at the bottom of page 18.

    3. Re:Lethal Weapon VII by Applekid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's the point. The social stigma and legal punishments for what amounts to a thought-crime (mere possession of child pornography, not the creation of it) is above crimes that cause real, tangible harm to other people.

      Instead of pinning child porn on the caretaker, he could have just outright shot him and suffered a more lenient fate*.

      * Assuming, of course, GP is being factual in the list of crimes that have more lenient punishments.

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    4. Re:Lethal Weapon VII by nedlohs · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There's 3 homicides of prisoners in prison in the UK a year, so clearly they aren't doing a good job of the butchering you expect.

    5. Re:Lethal Weapon VII by Faluzeer · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Hmmm

      It will also get you a longer sentence than abusing hundreds of children as in the following case

      The above case seems to be remarkably lenient, given the sheer scale of the abuse I would have thought a life sentence would have been more appropriate.

    6. Re:Lethal Weapon VII by pregister · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah. By pirating child porn and not buying it you are actually HURTING the child pornagraphers. Think of all the lost purchases they are incurring due to PIRACY! They should join forces with the RIAA's legal teams and push for harder copyright infringement laws for pirating child porn.

    7. Re:Lethal Weapon VII by Lunix+Nutcase · · Score: 4, Insightful

      causing temporary emotion distress

      Yeah, no one ever has lifelong emotional issues stemming from being sexually abused. No, once the person stops raping you you just magically get over it and it's like nothing ever happened at all.

    8. Re:Lethal Weapon VII by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well I guess that just shows y'all in the UK aren't quite as batshit as we are in the USA over your laws, as a local 20 year old here got 40+ years for having images of CP he snatched off image boards and the like, while the guy down the hall from me only got 6 years for shooting a cop in the belly while freaked out on acid. Here if you have CP you'd be better off popping a cap into the cop and then using the time while they have to call SWAT to get rid of the evidence, as the time will be less. no different than in the 80s Reagan drug scare where all the local dealers of pot started carrying guns so they could shoot the cop rather than get caught with a couple of pounds of weed.

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    9. Re:Lethal Weapon VII by Selfbain · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The ultimate weapon of the twenty first century: a catapult that fires naked children at your enemies.

      If you give those children MP3 players filled with pirated music this weapon might just be capable of destroying the world.

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    10. Re:Lethal Weapon VII by hedwards · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sigh, the man was indicted but never convicted. He has subsequently died, don't you think that it's about time that the jokes about his alleged sexual offenses died off?

      I mean he was found to be not guilty by a jury of his peers and the evidence was never particularly strong anyways.

  3. Live and learn by al0ha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Who in their worst nightmares would could have thought that anyone could stoop to do what he did?

    This clearly illustrates that until lay persons learn to think otherwise in terms of privacy and security on systems and networks; nothing is going to get better.

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    1. Re:Live and learn by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Who in their worst nightmares would could have thought that anyone could stoop to do what he did?

      This clearly illustrates that until lay persons learn to think otherwise in terms of privacy and security on systems and networks; nothing is going to get better.

      Hello??? If you people go out sometimes (you know, the big blue room with the bright light) do you always wear your bullet-proof west, keep your back against the wall at all times and look for cover points in case somebody around you is a raving psychopath looking to stab someone or lurking with a sniper rifle? No, I don't trust strangers but if you think this should be "expected" then you must have serious problems functioning in a society with other people. If I realized someone saw my password and thought "hey, maybe they'll plant child porn on my computer, report it to the police and alert the media to ruin my life and send me to prison for god-knows-how long" then I'd be an hermit living in a cave far, far away from everyone else.

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  4. Not suprising... by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This isn't surprising when you have laws forbidding the possession of information and a stigma that persists if someone were to openly come against ridiculous laws simply forbidding possession of information.

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    1. Re:Not suprising... by DanTheStone · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You are correct. Possession of anything as a crime makes it extremely easy to frame people, and interferes with presumption of innocence (since it doesn't care how that came into your possession, only that it existed). It is also extremely difficult to change, since wanting to fix a broken system leads to you being called a witch yourself.

      And the parent may have been flamebait, but it seems like the natural conversation for this story.

  5. What a Happy Optimist Mr. Thompson Is... by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'Who in their worst nightmares would could have thought that anyone could stoop to do what he did?

    When I was growing up, my dad once told me something along the lines of, "Boy, think of the worst, meanest, most downright, terrible thing you would be willing to do to someone that you truly hated. Now, you can safely make the assumption that someone else out there could come up with something worse if you give them enough reason. Remember that."

    I always did.

  6. Re:hypocritical ignorant victim by hyades1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you RTFA, you'd know both the man and his family were subjected to months of abuse while the investigation proceeded, and the abuse occurred because the guy framing him leaked the charge to the news media. Yes, he should have changed his password, but that just puts him in the same category as the overwhelming majority of people who don't keep their office computers sufficiently secure.

    And yes, for many people, being accused of pedophelia IS worse than being charged with murder. I know a man who lost his job, his house and his family while his case dragged through the courts. The whole town thought he was guilty. He was beaten twice, once very severely. The kids who accused him eventually recanted their stories, but the damage was done. So you can take your self-righteousness and shove it straight up your ass.

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  7. Re:hypocritical ignorant victim by jandrese · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Shit, it's basically impossible to keep your computer "sufficiently secure" from anybody who has physical access to it all weekend like a co-worker. If someone wants to plant something on your machine, they're going to be able to do it. Even if you're paranoid and encrypt your hard drive and take your laptop home with you every night someone can still come in and stick a keylogger in your keyboard. Then it's just 10 minutes one lunchtime and you're forced to literally live under a bridge, alone and penniless until you die. That's the power of invoking one of our cultures most forbidden taboos.

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  8. Re:hypocritical ignorant victim by interval1066 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "So you can take your self-righteousness and shove it straight up your ass."

    I agree, I'm troubled by what more people than me are calling the 21st century equivalent of the Salem witch trials, made even more cogent by these frame charges. Every one of the supposed "witches" were simply accused of witchcraft by a group of four bored teenagers. The lives of the entire family faculty of McMartin PreSchool were destroyed because one child lied. Mere possession can land you in more hot water than murder? That's ridiculous. I'm not condoning pedophilia, but I think people & media are caught in a sensationalism that rivals yellow journalism from the 1900's.

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  9. Wow. Vindictive much? by spun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As others have pointed out, you were a contractor. Your choice. And this is your side of the story, I'm sure it leaves out some details. If you had an actual case, you could go to court. But you don't, do you? And so you daydream about ruining someone's entire life. Did you know the idea of "an eye for an eye" was originally not seen as harsh,because it was meant to replace "Your life for an eye." Of course nowadays, even "an eye for an eye" is seen as unjust. But you seem to think that even "an eye for an eye" is not harsh enough.

    If your boss had a problem with you watching Fox News, it sounds like you were simply not a good fit. Why stay at a place you are not wanted, especially as a contractor? Do you not feel confident in your abilities to find work? If that's the case, perhaps you should not be a contractor. She did you a favor, enabling you to look for a job where your political views would not be an issue. If you were a real employee, you might have a case. If you had some sort of protections written into your contract, you might have a case. But that is not how contractors generally work, they generally work at the whims of those that employ them, and can be let go for any reason or none, at any time.

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    1. Re:Wow. Vindictive much? by spun · · Score: 4, Interesting

      No, as I said, I never said it was the "right" thing to do. I said it was the company's right to do so.

      As an example, if a woman dumps you and I say, "Bitch did you a favor," does that mean I think she did the right thing? No, it means, I think it is better you are no longer with her. And no one would argue her right to dump you, obviously she has that right.

      My observations about Fox News were coincidental to the discussion at hand, meaning, it is perhaps a coincidence that both Fox News viewers and the poster are hypocritical and vindictive,

      He was not fired for having the wrong political beliefs. He was let out of his contract for reasons we can only guess at. Contractors can not be fired, they were never employees. If he'd wanted protection, he should have asked for it. He didn't, and now he wants to ruin this person's life because he made a mistake when bargaining for the position. He is stupid, for not asking for what he wanted. He is hypocritical because I have seen him castigate others for not taking personal responsibility, but does not do so here, and he is vindictive because he fantasized about putting kiddie porn on his ex-bosses computer.

      His boss would not merely be fired if he planted kiddie porn on her computer, and you know it.

      And once again, I must point out that he wasn't fired. As a contractor, he was never an employee. He was a supplier of services, an independent business that did work for another business. If he wanted the protections that come with being an employee, he should have become an employee, not a contractor.

      I have no sympathy because, and this bears repeating, commodore64_love fantasized about putting kiddie porn on his ex-bosses computer for revenge.

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  10. A word about "shoulder surfing" by Paracelcus · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you catch somebody at work doing it, report it to their manager immediately! I've had people fired for this, at IBM we are trained to swivel 180 degrees when a client is entering a password. This is non-trivial, DO NOT ALLOW THIS!

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  11. Why CP is illegal by BenEnglishAtHome · · Score: 4, Informative

    Am I the only Slashdot reader old enough (and a porn consumer for long enough) to know the history of child porn laws?

    It's amazing how many times I've needed to post something like: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1790178&cid=33671018

  12. Re:Just got a call from my wife by DerekLyons · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you have any evidence that he's guilty, or are you just convicting him because the FBI raided him? Because you're sure acting as if he's guilty.