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Google Announces Project 10^100 Winners

Kilrah_il writes with news that Google has selected winners for Project 10^100, a contest to find the best ideas to change the world. Among the winners is the Khan Academy, which we've discussed previously. Google is "providing $2 million to support the creation of more courses and to enable the Khan Academy to translate their core library into the world’s most widely spoken languages." The other winning projects are: FIRST, an organization fostering math and science education through team competition; Public.Resource.Org, a government transparency effort focused on online access to public documents; Shweeb, a silly-looking method of human-powered urban transit; and the African Institute for Mathematical Sciences, a center aimed at promoting graduate-level math and science education in Africa.

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  1. Obligatory by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    KHAAAAN!

    1. Re:Obligatory by Spazntwich · · Score: 4, Funny

      I didn't believe Google had really gone evil until I learned they're funding the imperial agenda of science fiction villains.

  2. Interesting Ideas by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I like most of the projects that the summary mentioned. The Shweeb one is a bit...odd...however. From their website:

    We tend not to like travelling because it’s uncomfortable, there’s not much space, not enough leg room, we spend our time stuck in traffic or on a broken down train... and we are completely powerless to do anything about it.

    The design principles of Shweeb aim to put you, the traveller, back in control of your own space, time and power.

    Their design seems to consist of locking oneself in a suspended bubble and peddling your way to your destination. So....to clarify, they talk about the problems of transportation including not having enough leg room or space, and their solution is for you to lock yourself in a bubble....hmmmmm.

    Honestly, after looking at that project, I have to ask, "Why the hell wouldn't I just walk to my destination? Or ride my bike?"

    1. Re:Interesting Ideas by Col.+Klink+(retired) · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And the bubbles are on a track. Can you even pass a slower-moving Schweeb?

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    2. Re:Interesting Ideas by FooAtWFU · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The nice thing about something like bicycling is that it's not very capital-intensive (you don't need to build a lot of junk to make it work). The nice thing about something capital-intensive like a monorail is that it's high-speed, high-capacity, and effective.

      It looks like Schweeb has managed to avoid all of these virtues. So, uh, what's left? The bubble might make an okay windshield in the rain, maybe.

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    3. Re:Interesting Ideas by reverseengineer · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Shweeb FAQ addresses this question, and the answer is hilarious:

      But what if someone refuses to pedal or goes really slowly?

      Impact-cushioning buffers at each end of the pods allow faster pods to run into slower pods and form a Shweeb 'peloton'. This increases aerodynamic efficiency and, unlike a bicycle peloton, the power produced by those behind can contribute to the overall power of the group, thereby increasing speed and efficiency and removing the need to overtake. Should the rider in front refuse to pedal, the extra effort required by the rider(s) behind is minimal due to the low rolling resistance and single aero-pressure point of the peloton.

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    4. Re:Interesting Ideas by iammani · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What if a bunch of people refuse to pedal; say 9/10 refuse to pedal, would the system still work?

    5. Re:Interesting Ideas by MozeeToby · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You should read their faq,

      Honestly, after looking at that project, I have to ask, "Why the hell wouldn't I just walk to my destination? Or ride my bike?"

      On firm, flat ground, a 70kg man requires about 100 watts to walk at 5km/h. The power required to move a Shweeb along a rail at 20km/h is only 33 watts. We rest our case!

      33W is nothing, you could do 33W in a business suit for 20 minutes and not break a sweat. This efficiency also ties into the passing problem, since the top speed is limited to 25km/h for safety reasons and 25km/h can easily be reached with considerably less effort than walking the main lines should always be moving at top speed. There are apparently bumpers on the front and back of each bubble that make hitting even a stationary bubble at that speed safe and comfortable, at which point people behind can push a slower rider along at the max speed with little increase in effort (since two bubbles pushed up against one another are very aerodynamically efficient).

      All in all, I'd say that the system is remarkably more practical than it appears at first glance. My initial reaction was the same as everyone else's, but looking at their faq it's seems they've thought through the issues quite well. Don't know if you'll ever see one constructed in your home town, but I could definitely see scenic routes being quite popular in some areas.

    6. Re:Interesting Ideas by TheLink · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The bubble might make an okay windshield in the rain, maybe.

      I'm living in an equatorial zone, and it sure looks like a mini greenhouse tube to me. Sure they talk about ventilation holes, but I'm not convinced...

      Anyway, overall it looks like a stupid idea. Not sure why it won a prize.

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    7. Re:Interesting Ideas by Sulphur · · Score: 2, Funny

      Back in my day, they didn't have brakes.

    8. Re:Interesting Ideas by Monchanger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Honestly, after looking at that project, I have to ask, "Why the hell wouldn't I just walk to my destination? Or ride my bike?"

      Because you can't get sustained 70kps with bicycles without shortening the average lifespan.

      So....to clarify, they talk about the problems of transportation including not having enough leg room or space, and their solution is for you to lock yourself in a bubble....hmmmmm.

      Yes- you can stretch your legs in the pod, which you can't in all trains/buses. "Bubble" is misleading- it's not spherical. It's more of a rounded coffin, but far roomier and not claustrophobic. As for locking, yes, it's probably a good idea when suspended in the air moving at that speed, to ensure that you don't fall out.

      There's obviously room for adaptation to mass-market, which might just benefit from, say, I don't know- a little investment?

    9. Re:Interesting Ideas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      What if a bunch of people refuse to pedal; say 9/10 refuse to pedal, would the system still work?

      The Democrats seem to think so.

    10. Re:Interesting Ideas by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 2, Informative

      Every 100 pods send an 'autonomous' with a simple electric motor. It clears the track and can serve to 'circulate' and expedite any backup.

      You won't need a passing lane. And as for lazy commuters, take a look at the DC metro. There are enough people in a hurry that if you are lounging on the left of the escalator you will get yelled at to 'stand on the right'. And there are definately enough people in a hurry that they would gladly push anyone in front of them on these Schweeb things.

      That said, every 100 have one go through at the max speed of 25 km/hr. It would be a very small cost (A 30 Watt electric motor) would basically guarantee a minimum speed and 'push out' any slackers.

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    11. Re:Interesting Ideas by MattskEE · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They address many of these issues in the FAQ if you follow the link:
      >and head-to-tail collisions would be a real problem.
      There are long springy bumpers of some sort to make this impact very gentle. The energy is used to push the first driver ahead, it is not dissipated.

      >And if you are moving in a chain of schweebs, there will be the inevitable lazy guy somewhere in the chain not pedaling or pretending to pedal, so someone else will do all the work.
      This is a problem to an extent. However because of the high mechanical efficiency (greater than an enclosed recumbent bike they say) and the increased efficiency of moving together in a line, it will be tolerant to a certain amount of laziness without significantly increasing the work of the others. Furthermore there are monitoring sensors, and you could presumably be identified in your pod via schweeb membership card you swipe to get in the pod, and problematic riders could be penalized or banned.

      >And if the schweeb capsules are publicly shared not privately owned, they'll get really, really gross and sweaty.
      They say it uses 1/3 the power of walking at 5km/h (30 watts vs. 100) so even an out of shape person should not break a sweat. However I would be concerned about the sun heating them up...

      >And if everybody is commuting in one direction and they are a shared public resource, all the schweebs will end up at one end of the line...
      If x number of people go from point A to point B in the morning, then most of those people will go from B to A in the evening. Thus no pods pile up in any one location. Thus they just need to monitor usage and add new pods based on demand by location, plus extra to account for variability. And they will probably implement some sort of "tugboat" pod to move the pods between stations if pods start piling up in one location.

      I admit I several of the same misgivings at first. Here are some problems I still see:
      -The weirdness factor will turn people off regardless of utility and efficiency.
      -The economic viability has yet to be established, because it's a new concept.
      -Will there be airflow to maintain comfort on a sunny day without compromising aerodynamics? The pods look like a little greenhouse.

    12. Re:Interesting Ideas by Rakishi · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So when it's 95F you want to be in a nearly airtight transparent plastic bubble? Seriously? Think about it for a minute.

    13. Re:Interesting Ideas by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Funny

      What if a bunch of people refuse to pedal; say 9/10 refuse to pedal, would the system still work?

      Yep, but not immediately. The people who don't pedal won't be getting enough cardio and will die sooner.
      It's the darwin solution to transportation problems.

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  3. 10^100 Winners by bblount · · Score: 3, Funny

    With 10^100 winners it brings a whole new meaning to 'everyone's a winner!'

  4. Re:Shweeb by FooAtWFU · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Is Google doing a disservice to its voters here?

    "Drive innovation in public transportation" was one of the five winning ideas, voted on by the public. Google Inc. subsequently searched the globe and selected Shweeb as the organisation with the most forward looking transportation vision and with the relevant expertise to implement such an idea.

    Seriously. That's the best you can come up with? I agree that it's completely oblivious to reality, if that's what you meant by "the most forward-looking vision".

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  5. These ideas will save humanity by GPLDAN · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've submitted my ideas in order of excellence:


    1. Cowboy Neal breeds with Britney Spears, embryo placed on next Voyager spacecraft
    2. Duke Nukem Forever gets released on the iPhone
    3. Cached copies of goatse.cx for all mankind
    4. Raze Hope College to get rid of the world riff-raff
    5. Rename the GPL,the GNU Pubic License, just for the Lulz.

  6. Re:FIRST by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wrong. I've participated in FIRST since its inception at my high school two years ago, and the only thing that's "forced" on you is the goal to build the best damn robot you can while being polite and helpful to other teams at the meets. The teams are not required to use Labview, as there have been code libraries developed for both Java and C++ in the past. Last year in fact, we had a program in Java developed in part with another team and we were helped by several other teams at the meet who helped us optimize our code (at the time, we had no full-time Java programmers which kinda stunk). And the objective is not to get people hooked on National Instruments; in my limited experience it's been to inspire high schoolers to be both polite and professional, two concepts that are generally not fostered in high schoolers these days. FIRST isn't about some corporate scheme to brainwash high schoolers into thinking National Instruments are the only thing out there to use (which, after even a year of participating you'd realize that some hardware given to you will be the absolute least of your issues at a meet), it's about...well, I'd suggest you read their mission statement:

    "Our mission is to inspire young people to be science and technology leaders, by engaging them in exciting mentor-based programs that build science, engineering and technology skills, that inspire innovation, and that foster well-rounded life capabilities including self-confidence, communication, and leadership."

    I mean, come on. At a bare minimum it's a noble cause, and that's before the years that they've been doing this for. FIRST works, not as a way to get kids hooked on National Instruments, but as a way to expose high schoolers to not only a very high level of electronics, engineering, and teamwork that wouldn't be seen until they actually got full time jobs and worked on projects.

  7. Too Much Hype for the Khan Academy! by abramovs · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a former educator (middle and high school Social Studies) and a current researcher of new technology and learning science I get frustrated about the amount of praise given to the Khan Academy.

    I applaud Khan's effort and I'm sure the videos do help some people but I draw the line at it deserving a two million dollar grant for growth. What are these videos other than direct instruction (i.e. the traditional lecture)? We have a lot of evidence that direct instruction is a very inefficient way to learn something. Furthermore, access to videos only helps those who have the required internet connection and are intrinsically motivated to seek out the knowledge (the typical Slashdot user might fit that model but I assure the rest of the world does not).

    Shouldn't there be some some scientific testing of the effectiveness of the Khan Academy before giving it $2million to expand. The summary even calls the videos courses! Courses have an implied pedagogical trajectory that helps learner gain some level of mastery on the subject being taught. These videos barely qualify.

  8. Re:Just curious... by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because:

    Microsoft wouldn't know a good idea if it bit them on the ass these days.
    Oracle has contests like this and then they try to figure out ways to sue the winners.
    Steve Jobs thinks everyone else's ideas suck.

    I kid ... mostly.

  9. Re:Just curious... by Zarf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just keep hearing how "evil" Google is becoming... but they do stuff like this when nobody else seems to. These types of projects are the kinds of things an idealistic socialist government would do... yet here's a capitalist organisation doing them.

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  10. Not Enough Hype for the Khan Academy! by CentTW · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As a person who graduated from a major state college with a minor in math about 3 years ago, I really wish I had even one math teacher in my entire schooling experience who was even half as good of a teacher as Salmon Khan. I've gone over his Calculus videos, because I felt my Calculus skills were lacking, as I'd originally been taught by a lady who could just barely speak English. In my opinion, these videos represent a better educational experience than about 95% of the school that I've attended. I've had a few better classes in person, but most "teachers" are barely qualified, in my personal experience.

    Something to understand about Khan's videos, they can be helpful to anyone who can speak English. There are numerous reports of it being a useful tool for students in Africa. Many students have used it to pass the California Algebra I standards test. I suppose there is plenty of anecdotal evidence that it's effective, nobody's done a major study yet.

    About a month ago, Slashdot posted an article about a 578 million dollar high school being built. Now you're demonizing Google for giving 1/289th that amount to an institution that will likely reach 50+ times the audience, who are probably more in need of a better education anyway? I don't think that makes any sense at all.

    In the business world, two million dollars is chump change. Angel investors throw a lot more money than that at an idea without scientific evidence of it working. This seems like an excellent opportunity to throw a little money at an interesting education opportunity, and see how it pays off.

    1. Re:Not Enough Hype for the Khan Academy! by abramovs · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I'll stay away from your Flame-bait (you really think I demonized them?) and show how you made my point for me.

      This seems like an excellent opportunity to throw a little money at an interesting education opportunity, and see how it pays off.

      Where is anyone talking about see how this 'pays off'? How do you tell if it 'pays off'? Anecdotal evidence is just that and not the substitute for a scientific evaluation. How about we spend some of the money to explore that?

      Now you're demonizing Google for giving 1/289th that amount to an institution that will likely reach 50+ times the audience, who are probably more in need of a better education anyway?

      Don't you think that something that has the potential to reach a much wider audience should be carefully tested before released into the wild?

    2. Re:Not Enough Hype for the Khan Academy! by CentTW · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This seems like an excellent opportunity to throw a little money at an interesting education opportunity, and see how it pays off.

      Where is anyone talking about see how this 'pays off'? How do you tell if it 'pays off'? Anecdotal evidence is just that and not the substitute for a scientific evaluation. How about we spend some of the money to explore that?

      The payoff is in the improved education of people who choose to use the Khan Academy to supplement their education. If it's popular, someone will likely fund a study to see how effective it is. Google apparently believes in it enough that they're willing to fund the site directly, rather than a study of it.

      Now you're demonizing Google for giving 1/289th that amount to an institution that will likely reach 50+ times the audience, who are probably more in need of a better education anyway?

      Don't you think that something that has the potential to reach a much wider audience should be carefully tested before released into the wild?

      No. While I definitely agree that mandatory class material should be tested, I don't think anyone's talking about making Khan Academy mandatory. Everything on the Internet has the potential to reach a lot of people. Not everything on the Internet should be carefully tested.