Man Gets 10 Years For VoIP Hacking

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Man Gets 10 Years For VoIP Hacking

Posted by timothy on Monday September 27, 2010 @12:08AM from the just-think-what-that-is-in-minutes dept.

angry tapir writes "A US court has sentenced a Venezuelan man to 10 years in prison for stealing and then reselling more than 10 million minutes of Internet phone service. Edwin Pena, 27, was convicted in February of masterminding a scheme to hack into more than 15 telecommunications companies and then reroute calls to their networks at no charge. He must also pay more than US$1 million in restitution, and will be deported once his sentence is served."

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Interesting criminal justice system in the US by Anonymous Coward · 2010-09-27 00:13 · Score: 5, Insightful

Spend money 'punishing' him and then immediately deport him. Rehabilitation seems to have no meaning there.
1. Re:Interesting criminal justice system in the US by CrashandDie · 2010-09-27 00:31 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Then why bother spending some $800k on him in the first place if he's not wanted? So the next country gets a nice guy? Yeah. Right.
  Either give him a few years and make a good citizen out of him, or kick him out of the country. Doing both is just plain stupid.
2. Re:Interesting criminal justice system in the US by commodore64_love · 2010-09-27 00:46 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Do you think the EU would have handled it any differently? I don't. They deport people all the time.
  I think the sentence is okay but excessive. 10 million minutes times 0.01 per minute (wholsesale) == $100,000 damage to the company. Ten years for stealing such a small amount of money is ridiculous, as is the extra 1 million fine on top of it. The CEOs stole 1,000,000 times that amount from US taxpayers and get no punishment.
  
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3. Re:Interesting criminal justice system in the US by kevinNCSU · 2010-09-27 00:51 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Maybe because "Come to our country, commit crimes, and simply get asked nicely to leave" isn't a sign we're interested in putting up? It's called a penal system for a reason. Rehabilitation has always been a tertiary goal behind punishment and deterrence. That doesn't mean it's not important, but you're acting like it's the entire point of a prison sentence, which it absolutely is not.
4. Re:Interesting criminal justice system in the US by nedlohs · 2010-09-27 00:56 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  If you just kick him out then you've created a whole army of criminals.
  Someone needs killin', get a Mexican or Canadian across the border and have them kill them. If they gets caught they just gets sent home anyway - to sneak back across next time you need someone offed.
  Foreigners should get a free try at robbing Americans blind, if they get away with it then they are rich. If they get caught they just get sent home just as if they never tried in the first place.
  The prison system is not all about rehabilitation - there are at least three other components:
  1. Keeping dangerous people away from society at large - clearly not an issue here since deporting does the same thing.
  2. Deterring other people from doing the same thing by showing them the potential consequences - this clearly does apply here.
  3. Retribution - just plain punishing the criminal for the sake of punishing them.
  Different places have different emphasises on each element. Some leave some out entirely.
5. Re:Interesting criminal justice system in the US by SethJohnson · 2010-09-27 03:21 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Prison has many purposes in our society.
  
  1) retribution: basically, punishment. The prisoner is paying his debt to society. This also acts as a catharsis for the prisoner himself.
  2) specific deterrence: The prisoner will think twice about committing another crime.
  3) general deterrence: others will think twice about committing crime when they see others being jailed for it.
  4) rehabilitation: so the prisoner can change his ways. Maybe he will learn skill for the outside world so that he need not turn to crime again.
  5) utilitarian: somply to keep the prisoner from committing more crimes.
  
  In this case, 2,3, and to some extent, 5 applies.
  
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Why bother serving sentence? by danking · 2010-09-27 00:15 · Score: 4, Insightful

The one thing I don't understand is why have him actually serve his sentence? Doesn't this just cost people more money in the end. It may be worth while to have him stay until he has re-payed the $1 million, assuming he even has the ability to re-pay the money but why not just deport him right away.
1. Re:Why bother serving sentence? by delinear · 2010-09-27 00:27 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Well jail time is theoretically about rehabilitation, but in practice it's about deterrence. It wouldn't deter anyone from following in his footsteps if he was sent home without serving jail time (I think the $1m repayment part is just wishful thinking). Mind you, how do you rehabilitate someone whose crime is purely financial in a society that's largely focused on the pursuit of money, or prevent others copying him? In that case his "crime" was merely being caught, and every criminal assumes he's smarter than the last guy and won't get caught, so the effectiveness of such a sentence even as a deterent is doubtful.
Re:Got what he deserved by CrashandDie · 2010-09-27 00:34 · Score: 3, Insightful

Except for the fact that the US judiciary system fails, once again? Not only are they spending a few hundred thousand dollars on making him pay in prison, his sentence his heftier than what a good bunch of rapists and cold blooded murderers would get, but after the supposed rehabilitation process, they're kicking him out of the country.
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Re:You know what gets me? by tehcyder · 2010-09-27 01:15 · Score: 3, Insightful

The man is obviously very capable and smart and for that he is getting punished instead of the telecom companies who let this happen in the first place.

He is being punished because he committed a crime, not because he's a clever geek.

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Re:Computer Fraud and Wire Fraud, Some Hacking by Monkeedude1212 · 2010-09-27 02:57 · Score: 3, Insightful

I think the general public considers port scanning and brute force attacks to be hacking. At least the news reports it as such.
You wouldn't?
I mean it's the most surefire way to get into a system. May take a while but if you can set up an attack that no one notices, you've got all the time in the world to go work your job, spend time with the wife, work up that Alabi, etc etc.
People have considered much less to be hacking. Some think that when you use social engineering to discover the answer to someone's secret question to access their twitter account that it's hacking... At least a port scan is something you wouldn't know about if you didn't at least have a basic understanding of how computer networks work.
Re:Stupid criminal... by Vanderhoth · 2010-09-27 05:06 · Score: 3, Insightful

More proof men are turning into submissive women.
And by that you really mean your bitter that your Mother/girl friend/wife/female boss/little sister orders you around and instead of seeing an successful/assertive women, you'd prefer to do what you're told and bitch about them behind their backs?

My wife does what I ask her because I respect her and do what she asks. Relationships are a two way street. Good luck getting in one.