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Obama Highlights IPv6 Issue

alphadogg writes "The Obama Administration bills itself as the most tech-savvy political team ever, but until now it has ignored one of the biggest issues facing the Internet: the rapid depletion of IPv4 Internet addresses and the imminent need for carriers and content providers to adopt IPv6. Today, the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) will host a workshop on IPv6 that features high-profile executives from government, industry and Internet policymaking organizations. Some observers are hoping the Obama Administration will use the workshop to issue a deadline for all federal agencies to support IPv6 on their public-facing Web sites."

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  1. Re:Cool, I can't wait... by alta · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Interesting point... getting rid of nat is going to put a lot of machines out on the internet that are currently hiding behind NAT. Once that's done all those NSA backdoors are now available where before there was no route to host... Before they had to own the NAT device, then the machine. Not as though that's a problem for them, its just an inconvenience.

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  2. Re:Already Run Out by vlm · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Peak Oil will hit in 2005 they told us, but that year came and went. They should have used a more conservative estimate and said 2030 will be the year, instead of going with worst case.

    Peak oil is an interesting example. You see, peak oil in the USA was in something like 1967. Mexico has been in oil production decline since 2006.

    Similarly, it will be interesting to watch ipv4 addrs run out. Perhaps ARIN will run out before APNIC, or vice versa. That will be an interesting time to watch.

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  3. Re:Deadline by pete-classic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I would argue that Jackson comes close. I think it's shameful that he's on the US $20.

    -Peter

  4. Re:agreed by h4rm0ny · · Score: 2, Interesting

    but by doing that, you pay the longterm cost of people just not trusting what you say anymore

    Well now that's why you swap presidents / parties every now and then. It gives you a chance to sweep away everybody's accumulated distrust in the old let and put in a clean new hope for everyone to start again with.

    Of course, that could wear thin eventually, in which case you'd probably get a generation that had no faith in the entire political system. But let's hope that doesn't happen.

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  5. Re:Why not go mobile IPv6? by hjf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    www.v6.facebook.com (Yes, really. Look what it resolves to :)

  6. If it had been first... by Junta · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems mostly ok as a protocol if you ignore the context of being in an IPv4 world.

    That said, with the IPv4 world, what problems are glaringly obvious. One is that generally, the v6 people threw out a whole lot of babies with the bathwater when they went clean slate. Also, generally, those are coming back in. In the beginning they said 'DHCP is obsolete, mDNS and stateless addressing', now they have a DHCP that is approaching the capability of DHCPv4 almost. They still need to have an interface identifier to go with the host identifier to let the DHCPv4 people get comfortable and give them all the capability they had in DHCPv4.

    The other completely botched thing was providing no way for an IPv6-only host to ever talk to an IPv4-only host. They'll say it's impractical as that is a many to fewer mapping of address space and clients cannot be uniquely identified while keeping the pure vision of peer-to-peer or nothing at all in mind. However, having IPv6 hosts that are clients and only clients getting to IPv4 only servers via designated NPT (Network Protocol Translation) gateways would have enabled a great great mass of clients to shuffle right over to IPv6 without a horrible experience. I propose that this is still quite possible if the right people drove it.

    The first is a matter of general maturity, but currently things are good enough for most. The rest require adoption to really drive change. The second aspect I also don't view as unfixable, it can still be done today, if the IPv6 leaders extract their heads from their asses and compromise on 'vision' for praticality, comforted somewhat by the knowledge that IPv4 would eventually atrophy away in that scenario.

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  7. Re:Deadline by operagost · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Wilson could have been worse.

    He re-segregated the military and the post office.
    He signed the Federal Reserve into law, enabling our current system of fiat currency.
    He ran for reelection based on keeping us out of WWI, then pushed us into WWI immediately upon reelection.
    During WWI, he signed a law that jailed anyone who protested the war. The post office would not deliver any periodicals critical of the war.
    He created a Committee on Public Information to create war propaganda. Goebbels cited the American WWI propaganda as his inspiration.

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  8. Why not just switch .mil over to IPv6? by WillAffleckUW · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If we really care about security, why not just switch all .mil over to IPv6 and deny all Chinese servers connection at root levels on the sats and trunk lines?

    Wouldn't be hard.

    Then tell China when they stop with the trade barriers and spying on our military, we'll let them onto the new IPv6 web.

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