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Gambling On Bacteria

An anonymous reader writes "When it comes to gambling, many people rely on game theory, a branch of applied mathematics that attempts to measure the choices of others to inform their own decisions. It's used in economics, politics, medicine — and, of course, Las Vegas. But recent findings from a Tel Aviv University researcher suggest that we may put ourselves on the winning side if we look to bacteria instead. According to Prof. Eshel Ben-Jacob of Tel Aviv University's School of Physics and Astronomy, current game theory can't account for bacteria's natural decision-making abilities — it's just too simplistic. Understanding bacteria's reactions to stressful and hazardous conditions may improve decision-making processes in any human arena from everyday life to political elections."

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  1. Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor by Jason+Levine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll agree to the basic situation you put forward, but of course the situation is trickier than just two groups on opposite sides. Within each group are a bunch of sub-groups along the spectrum of "let's make peace now" and "we won't stop until they are all dead!" Even if you get most of the groups to agree to a peaceful arrangement, the sub-groups who don't agree can spoil it for everyone by causing trouble, leading to increased tension and eventual breakdown of the peace arrangement. It's very unlikely anytime soon that you will get 100% buy in from all sub-groups within both sides. The best you can hope for is a peace that is strong enough to withstand the inevitable bombardment by the sub-groups who don't join until support for them fades. And, in a region where violence is an everyday fact of life, this is going to be very tough to do.

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  2. Re:Israel is an interesting exercise in Game Theor by AmericanInKiev · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Read Phyrrhic victory. Everytime a jew "wins" by brutalizing an opponent which is inferior and powerless in every way, it gives back more in terms of the international goodwill marked "holocaust" than it gains.

    Oh; and the homophobes in Brooklyn yesterday didn't do "the jews" any favors; especially when there was no condemnation from any other "jewish anti-defamation league".

    Just sayin.

    First the Jews came for the Palestinians, and I was quiet, because they wear towels on their head.
    Then the Jews came for the gays, and I said nothing because my best friend is a Jew.
    Then they came for the Jews, and I pretended they didn't have it coming...

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  3. Game theory does just fine here by bobdotorg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    IAAGT (I am a game theorist)

    I looked (briefly) but did not find the PNAS article, as I suspect that the medical daily article gets it wrong, and that Prof. Eshel Ben-Jacob doesn't bash game theory tools. The Med Daily reporter probably misinterpreted the Prof.'s comments about groups of bacteria versus groups of people.

    Why don't all the cells go into 'survival mode'? It's not the best for the colony, and there are many real world examples of altruistic behavior towards one's family / colony / species.

    One game theoretical model for this looks through an evolutionary lens: the players are species of bacteria and choose species wide traits. One strategy is 'everybody goes into survival mode', the other strategy is '10% go into survival mode'. Through random mutation, chance, whatever... a species picks its strategy, nature makes its move, and the game goes to the next round.

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  4. Re:Bacteria for Congress by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 4, Funny

    E-coli for congress! They really know their shit!

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  5. Re:More then the sum of its parts? by shentino · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In other words, bacteria cooperate.

    In game theory this is a common phenomenon that collective good is boosted when people aren't selfish.

  6. The palestinians should go where they came from by maweki · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I say, the palestinians should go where they came from!