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How to Heartlessly Arbitrage Used Books With a PDA

Pickens writes "Michael Savitz writes at Salon how he makes a living armed with a laser bar-code scanner fitted to a Dell PDA. Savitz haunts thrift stores and library book sales to scan hundreds of used books a day and instantly identify those that will get a good price on Amazon Marketplace. 'My PDA shows the range of prices that other Amazon sellers are asking for the book in question,' writes Savitz. 'Those listings offer me guidance on what price to set when I post the book myself and how much I'm likely to earn when the sale goes through.' Savitz writes that on average, only one book in 30 will have a resale value that makes it a "BUY" but that he goes through enough books to average about 30 books sold per day. 'If I can tell from a book's Amazon sales rank that I'll be able to sell it in one day, I might accept a projected profit of as little as a dollar. The more difficult a book will be to sell, the more money the sale needs to promise.' Savitz writes that people scanning books sometimes get kicked out of thrift stores and retail shops and that libraries are beginning to advertise that no electronic devices are allowed at their sales. 'If it's possible to make a decent living selling books online, then why does it feel so shameful to do this work?' concludes Savitz."

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  1. Depends what you want... by backwardMechanic · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sure, you can go through all those second-hand bookstores and strip them of anything will make a profit. It makes the store less interesting for the rest of us, who actually want to read the books we find. I like the search, which may turn up a treasure I recognise, or may turn up something obscure that I, but virtually nobody else, want to read. To put it another way, it's why Firefly was canned. Lots of us thought it was good, but not enough to turn a quick profit. There's a lot of instant-hit cheap crap on TV. Please don't do this to bookstores as well.

    1. Re:Depends what you want... by ultranova · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The bookstores are putting them up for sale at a price which they deem to make a fair profit for them. What's wrong with him buying them and selling them elsewhere if he believes that he can make a profit too?

      Because it rises the price of books for everyone else. Rather than getting a book for $2 from the bookstore, I'll have to buy it for $5 from Amazon.

      This guy is simply a new version of a ticket scalper. He's a parasite and will hopefully get banned from every bookstore. Every single penny he makes comes from someone else's pocket; he simply monopolizes a resource and profiteers from it, contributing absolutely nothing to the economy. He's scum.

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    2. Re:Depends what you want... by Sethumme · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, local used-books shops might be accurately pricing their books for the local market, which could differ from the nationwide market on the internet. If the local stores were forced to price to the national market, they might not be able to sell those books to their usual customers, and not even the used-book arbitrage traders would want to buy them. This could, in the long run, significantly reduce the thrift bookstore revenues and drive some out of business.

      And like GP pointed out, some of the hidden treasures in the book stores act as sales to draw in customers to the store, who might buy other books as well. If the arbitrage trades come in and snatch up the "sale" items, the stores are forced to eat the discount instead of generating more revenue.

    3. Re:Depends what you want... by GaryOlson · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You make a false assumption on the expense associated to the time spent searching. If this time is "expensed" uniquely as cost associated looking for a single asset, then one could argue your point. But, if the time "expensed" looking for books has another more important function [getting out of the house, small diversion from other shopping, enjoying the hunt], then the expense is nearly zero. If the time "expensed" is nearly zero, any books found will then have a return on time invested which is extremely high.

      Cheaper has proper meaning only if you include all the cost inputs, not just the "time expensed".

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  2. Lots of reasons... by Qubit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Savitz writes that people scanning books sometimes get kicked out of thrift stores and retail shops and that libraries are beginning to advertise that no electronic devices are allowed at their sales. 'If it's possible to make a decent living selling books online, then why does it feel so shameful to do this work?' concludes Savitz."

    Perhaps the people running these sales want them to have more of a community feel, and either anticipate or know from past experience that allowing professional sellers to come in and take on-the-spot digital assessments of books will disrupt the existing selling environment.

    Here are some potential motivations for the ban that I can think up off the top of my head:

    • People tearing through hundreds of books, treating them carelessly, as every book they buy and flip represents more profit
    • People being aggressive about getting certain books, making the sale less friendly to casual, non-pros
    • Some (misguided) impression that it's wrong for resellers to be buying books at a friends-of-the-library sale
    • A fear that if pros come in, comb through, and cull out the "good deals" quickly, they'll sell fewer books overall.
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    1. Re:Lots of reasons... by Mr.+Underbridge · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Our local library has a used book sale, and it's fantastic. Really, the only problem is the assholes with PDAs, because they camp in an aisle, scanning everything, blocking people trying to get by, and being a complete pain in the ass. The problem isn't that they're buying books, the problem is that they're taking up space.

    2. Re:Lots of reasons... by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The solution, though, isn't to ban PDAs. It's to kick people out when they act like a tool. It's unfortunate that we have to do that but it's the society we've all created, where manners are held in low esteem; turn on the television and all you'll see is a bunch of people being rude to each other on every channel, unless you can find a Bob Ross rerun on PBS... happy little trees. If you want this to change, then you need to go out and aggressively demand good manners. Every time you receive bad ones, comment. Refuse to do business with the impolite where possible. Let's create a useful stratification of society, between those who think of others and those who think fuck you.

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    3. Re:Lots of reasons... by complete+loony · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The libraries don't even need a scanner to accomplish the same thing. Just trawl through their database and look up the Amazon price / volume. Filter out the more valuable volumes, separate them, mark them for prices that are closer to market value. And anything the locals don't buy, list online.

      Do that and you remove the easy profit from scalpers, removing the problem.

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  3. scumbag by WillyWanker · · Score: 4, Interesting

    " 'If it's possible to make a decent living selling books online, then why does it feel so shameful to do this work?' concludes Savitz."

    Because it makes you a bottom-feeder. And no one likes bottom-feeders. You're taking the generosity and good will of others who are trying to help the less fortunate and turning it into your own personal profit machine. What, has the "stealing candy from babies and reselling it online" market dried up so quickly? This is right up there with people that go around to thrift stores buying up all the decent items and reselling them for 10-100x more in their "antique" stores, leaving nothing but crap for those that are in need. Sorry dude, but you're a scum-sucking lowlife.

  4. Connecting buyers and sellers. by Jeeeb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't see anything at all wrong with this. This is a classic business connecting a group of buyers and sellers who wouldn't have otherwise been connected. The sellers get their book sale and the buyers get their book at a reasonable price. Everyone wins. No different from any other shop that buys at factory price and sells at retail price.

  5. Re:Breaking an unspoken social contract by icebraining · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As someone for whom the web is the only place I can find such "treasures" in their original language (I'm not from an English speaking country), stopping him from doing what he's doing deprives me from actually reading the books.

  6. Scanners are allowed by ghostlibrary · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This may come as a shock, but the summary isn't *gasp* fully accurate. Scanners are allowed at the library sale they say forbids it. It's actually rather interesting-- the early "member's only" hour forbids scanners, then they let scanners in during the open sale hours. So it's a nice compromise between "let people browse" and "let the book sellers make a profit", they're just giving first crack to readers, then a fair shake to sellers afterwards. Neat compromise, that.

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  7. Re:Nothing shameless by SQLGuru · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I agree. I've been at garage sales where people with these scanners show up. They're going to have to do some work to earn that profit that I wasn't willing to do (and knew about at the time). I only wish more of them would bargain with me. If a guy with the PDA came to me and said the price was too high, I'd ask him what he'd want to give me.....recognizing that he wants some level of profit margin. At my last garage sale, I was sold some stuff for $10 that a guy felt he could get more for on Craigslist.....I helped him load it into his car. Had I wanted to go through the effort to sell it on Craigslist, I would have. And for the record, these were "neighborhood garage sales" so I didn't do anything other than drag the crap to my driveway and wait for people to show up.....it's all about minimal effort for me.

    So, if the library/thrift store/whatever wants to put forth the effort, they'll get the reward. If they just want to move it, these guys with scanners will be able to make their own profit.

  8. Re:Nothing shameless by MightyYar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Basically he is making it harder and more expensive to acquire books and thus education

    He might be making it more expensive for the 100-1000 or so people that were going to attend the local library sale, but he then increases supply to the Amazon Marketplace, which will reduce the price for the millions who shop on Amazon.

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  9. Re:Information asymmetry by SvnLyrBrto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    > The seller finds that correcting the information balance by limiting
    > information access to the buyer is easier than correcting it by having
    > to access that information themselves.

    Easier than having access? The only ease of access that PDA guy has in his favor is the laser barcode scanner; which saves him all of five seconds of typing the UPC into a search engine. We're not talking about information asymmetry here. We're talking about a guy who's willing to put in a modicum of effort vs. the sheer laziness of others.

    I comparison shop with my iPhone all the time. And the closest thing to flack I've ever gotten from a brick and mortar store is a polite request to let them try to match the offer if I find a better price online. Informed consumers via always-on portable internet access are a fact of life in this day and age. Businesses need to adapt or die.

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  10. Re:Nothing shameless by ocdscouter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some libraries (as in the case of my local library) get many more books donated than they can actually use, and therefore, book sales tend to be weighted more towards books that the library didn't actually buy.