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Benoit Mandelbrot Dies At 85

Beetle B. writes "Benoit Mandelbrot has passed away at the age of 85. I first learned of the Mandelbrot set while reading Arthur C. Clarke's The Ghost From The Grand Banks. Soon after, I got hold of the best fractal generation software of the day — Fractint — and ran it for long periods of time on my XT, exploring the beautiful world that Mandelbrot, among others, had opened up for me. That it was only on a 4-color CGA did not deter me!"

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  1. From Life ... by Mikkeles · · Score: 3, Funny

    to the Hausdorf Dimension!

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    1. Re:From Life ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Good luck using Google Maps to zoom in on his graveyard.

    2. Re:From Life ... by Sulphur · · Score: 3, Funny

      Have you tried Google Maths?

  2. Dead? by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I didn't know he was still alive. So much for assumptions.

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    1. Re:Dead? by BradleyUffner · · Score: 4, Informative

      I didn't know he was still alive. So much for assumptions.

      I only knew he was still alive because of this song.
      http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songdetails/Mandelbrot%20Set

    2. Re:Dead? by Beorytis · · Score: 3, Informative
      I knew he was still alive because of this TED talk

      .

    3. Re:Dead? by b4upoo · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, but he replicates in ever smaller iterations.

    4. Re:Dead? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      And if anyone knows about still being alive, it's Jonathan Coulton.

    5. Re:Dead? by PsychicX · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He was at our graduation ceremony this past May (Hopkins 10) getting an honorary degree, in fact.

    6. Re:Dead? by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Funny

      May he Replicate In Peace

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  3. Check out the obit on the New York Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can use your browser to zoom into it infinitely revealing more patterns.

  4. From his February 2010 TED visit by QuietLagoon · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:From his February 2010 TED visit by RDW · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Thanks! More years ago than I care to remember (about the same time I was playing around with Fractint from a covermount floppy of some magazine) the great man came to our university to give a talk. Stupidly I didn't join the queue early enough and got stuck in an overflow room (the maths guys hosting his visit hadn't calculated the demand correctly). Still cool to hear him talk, though. I remember the Genesis Device got a mention:

      http://vimeo.com/5810737
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM1r37zIBOQ

  5. Testimony by kale77in · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was in year nine (mid-high-school) in country Australia, when my grandmother gave me a subscription to Scientific American; on the front of one of the first issues was a Mandelbrot set. I put the pseudocode into Atari Basic on my trusty 800XL (1.86kHz), and it produced a 40x40 graph of the set in just on 6 hours. It's been one of my standard learn-a-new-language exercises ever since, and the single thing I love the most about mathematics.

    1. Re:Testimony by butlerm · · Score: 2, Informative

      I put the pseudocode into Atari Basic on my trusty 800XL (1.86kHz)

      I think you mean something megahertz. A one kilohertz computer wouldn't be good for much of anything. The Apple II, C-64, Atari 400/800, etc. all ran 1 Mhz 6502 CPUs at approximately 1 Mhz, somewhat more than that in the Atari case.

    2. Re:Testimony by mikael · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I remember those days - reading his book on the "Fractal complexity of nature" was a real inspiration. It was strange to realize that snowflakes, ice crystallisation, mountain terrain, the outlines of coastlines, branching of trees and lightning, aggregation of soot particles, growth of coral and seashells, periodicity of landslides and earthquakes could all be modelled by fractals.

      Some of those simulations could be done within seconds on an Atari(XL) or other home computer. Others took hours like the Mandelbrot set as well as others like John Conway's Game of Life - the 1D version was a bit faster. Spending three Summer evenings running a 6502 implementation of John Conway's "Life" program on a for all 1000+ generations on a 160x80 grid. I always remember the stars in the twilight sky at that time looked just like the cover of the 1978 BYTE magazine.

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  6. Re:Fractint? Pah? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Quite - slashdot's obit for a mathematician: read about one thing he did in a popular mass-distributed sci fi book, ran a bit of software (ON A FLOPPY DISK AND ON A FOUR COLOUR DISPLAY!)

  7. Re:Fractint by paskie · · Score: 4, Informative

    The best I know is GNU XaoS. It can do real-time zooming (it did fine even on my old P133!) and features plenty of settings and fractal equations. I know there are perhaps better programs nowadays that let you easily write custom equations, scripts for 3D fractals and whatnot, but AFAIK none is free and/or supports Linux well.

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  8. Re:Fractint? Pah? by Viperpete · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was going to post much the same thing. Some nerd eulogy, 10 words pertaining to the death of a math hero, ~70 devoted to the author. Can we get more HF Asperger/Narcissistic.

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  9. Another Mandelbrot - Clarke connection by sznupi · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I first learned of the Mandelbrot set while watching one of Clarke documentaries, Fractals: the colours of infinity - very nicely done; very inspiring(*), as was the performance (despite its shortness) of Benoit Mandelbrot himself.

    Now both gone :/

    (*)perhaps too inspiring - I still wait for something like that fractal compression of parrot picture.

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  10. He didn't really die, you know by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if you look closer, you'll realize that he didn't die, it's just he became too big for us to see.

  11. Mandelbrot plot by JohannesJ · · Score: 5, Funny

    In school we had to plot Mandelbrots. Now Mandelbrot has a plot of his own.

  12. damn you rss! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/10/16/1446231/Benoit-Mandelbrot-Dies-At-85?from=rss

    rss takes another victim...

  13. Re:I feel a little bad about this by Burpmaster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I feel a little bad about this but the first thing I thought was, "damn, that one Jonathan Coulton song is going to be really confusing whenever he performs it now."

    Can't be worse than immediately thinking "I must post the best yo dawg joke ever." You know, he put the Mandelbrot Set in the Mandelbrot Set, so we can explore it while we explore it.

    From this day forward, this recursive meme ought to be associated with Mandelbrot. After all, he put something inside itself infinitely many times long before Xzibit did so once.

  14. An Inspiration by hoover · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think those pictures he came up with first inspired an entire generation of would-be computer scientists, maths geeks, physicists and Scientific American readers. How such a simple iteration could render those fascinating patterns even on a 2d grid, remains to this day one of the big mysteries. R.I.P. Benoit, I hope you'll finally be able to make sense of the fractal nature of things from up / down there!

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  15. I'll miss the guy by line-bundle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I met the guy personally at least 4 times in the last 5 years. He was great to get along with and not aloof at all for all his successes.

    I'm currently following up on is work in finance (stable distributions).

    May he RIP, and may his family consider him resting.

  16. Re:Fractint? Pah? by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I was going to post much the same thing. Some nerd eulogy, 10 words pertaining to the death of a math hero, ~70 devoted to the author. Can we get more HF Asperger/Narcissistic.

    Yes. How awful that the author would talk about how the deceased affected him personally.
    If ever affected as many people as Mandlebrot did, I would be insulted if they talked about it at my funeral.

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  17. Fractals.. a gateway drug to more complex models by seandoyle44 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember the Scientific American with the Mandelbrot set on the cover - it was a huge influence on my life. I was working as a research assistant at the Federal Reserve Board in DC and was losing interest in mathematical modeling as a way to understand anything in the real world. Most of the models I was dealing with were linear or mostly linear. When I read the article at first I thought it was some cheap trick or approximation... but gradually I realized it was different than anything I had seen before. So - being a rational, optimizing actor I then left the field of economics .. the most utility-maximizing decision I ever made :-) Since then I've always viewed fractals as a gateway drug to more complex models of the universe. So many processes unfold over time; fractals are just one of the ways to get a glimpse of what might be going on. Thanks Dr. Mandelbrot!

  18. Mandelbrot Set by dirkson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He gave us order out of chaos; he gave us hope where there was none. And his geometry succeeds where others fail. Mandelbrot's in heaven.

  19. Math and youth by ortholattice · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Defying the notion that mathematicians are over the hill at age 30, Mandelbrot made his fractal breakthroughs when he was in his 50s. It gives the rest of us some hope. :)

    1. Re:Math and youth by ArundelCastle · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Defying the notion that mathematicians are over the hill at age 30,

      Wait 'till you hit 31, that's when mathematicians are in their prime.

  20. A great mathematician is no more... by farrellj · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I, too, used Fract386, which became Fractint....I worked at a computer store in Toronto, and we used to sell so many NEC Multi-Sync monitors with ATI's VGA Wonder card based upon showing Fractint on it!

    Through someone on I met on LJ, I was able to get a "autographed mandelbrot", basically a color print out of part of the Mandelbrot set, autographed by the now, late, great Benoit Mandelbrot. Although I never got to meet him, he discovery has given much beauty to my life.

    ttyl
              Farrell

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  21. Thank you Mandelbrot! by KingAlanI · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Fractals were how this non-artist got his art credit in high school with style. :)

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  22. Re:Fractal mathematicians don't die by fractoid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Little fleas have lesser fleas upon their backs to bite 'em.
    And lesser fleas have smaller fleas, so on ad infinitum.

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  23. Re:Fractal mathematicians don't die by fractoid · · Score: 4, Funny

    Too long, lacks pithiness. Vin Diesel's character, Riddick, put it better in Pitch Black: "Got it all wrong, Holy Man. I absolutely believe in God. And I absolutely hate the fucker." Much more concise.

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  24. Re:Was there ever a real-time viewer... by spitzak · · Score: 2, Informative

    He asked for "real time".

    I would suspect the switch from hardware doubles to software arbitrary-precision produces many orders of magnitude of slowdown so the answer is no.

  25. This is a good chance to remind y'all by symbolset · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Many of the people who have discovered things great and small that astonish and delight are still living. It's not too late to look them up on the internet and personally thank them.

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  26. Seen it all by dgriff · · Score: 5, Funny

    ran it for long periods of time [...] exploring the beautiful world

    Yeah, but when you've seen one part of the Mandelbrot set, you've seen it all.

  27. Check out 3D fractals by maktlaust · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Zooming into a Mandelbox, with weird music: http://vimeo.com/13886600

  28. My first program... by curious.corn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... back in uni - gwbasic I think - was a Mandelbrot set renderer. We were just starting with Mathematical Analysis and the first real struggles with imaginary numbers, sequences, series and limits. I guess messing around with it cost me an exam session, but it was way much more fun than rote theorems (later Profs were good, not that first class though ;( )

    RIP

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  29. CG procedurals by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A few years ago it was popular to make CG images of starships with a procedural/fractal nebula in the background. I used to make comments like: "The Enterprise is investigating the Mandelbrot Nebula", but nobody I know of ever got it.

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  30. Re: Fractal mathematicians don't die by shubert1966 · · Score: 2, Funny

    If reincarnation is true, he'll come back as twins.

    Fractals are addictive. Like SWINTH for the Commode64, watching a fire, or Hypnotoad.

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  31. Re:Fractint? Pah? by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Real men did it with checkerboards. In the 80's i had an ST, so i was not trapped in 8-bit color land. But the overnight thing, i totally agree.

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  32. A truly great man. The world is a little poorer.. by plasmasurfer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    He was a great man in every sense of the word. Despite his enormous accomplishments and being a historical figure, he still took time to address his emails personally and answered every reasonable request. I was his assistant of sorts during a period in Cambridge, MA, and one time he got this request from a person asking him to write to his HS math teacher because this teacher had inspired him to go into math. Well Prof Mandelbrot wrote him a beautiful letter that still chokes me up when I remember it. After he dictated it to me, I told him that at that moment and from then on, that I would be glad to take a bullet for him. He chuckled, thanked me in a very modest tone and proceeded to the next topic. He was always polite and pleasant and full of energy. May he rest in peace.

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  33. His good counsel... by MikeYoung · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A sad day for me and for others who admired his inveterate quirkiness and his uncanny ability to "think outside the box." I never met Dr. Mandelbrot, but we had about a dozen phone conversations over the past 15 years. He liked my research and appreciated that his work on cotton prices inspired me to challenge conventional wisdom in my field of real estate. In our last conversation, after mentioning that I was updating some old work, I asked him whether to employ newer technology or simply to extend the earlier work with the same technology used back in 1995. As was often the case, he related a story. This time it concerned a mentor whom he described as a genius and aviation pioneer who received little recognition for his work. Why? Well, it seemed that this man never was satisfied with his aircraft designs, always knowing that he could do something better. As a consequence of his endless quest for perfection, the man never saw his airplane fly. Dr. Mandelbrot's advice to me was "Just get the plane to fly. Then, others will know what can be refined." I will miss his sage counsel.