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US Elections Dominated By Closed Source. Again.

An anonymous reader writes "Another American election is almost here, and while electronic voting is commonplace, it is still overwhelmingly run by closed source, proprietary systems. It has been shown that many of these systems can be compromised (and because they are closed, there may be holes we simply cannot know about). Plus they are vulnerable to software bugs and are often based on unstable, closed-source operating systems. By the inherent nature of closed software, when systems are (optionally!) certified by registrars, there is no proof that they will behave the same on election day as in tests. The opportunities for fraud, tampering and malfunction are rampant. But nonetheless, there is very little political will for open source voting, let alone simple measures like end-to-end auditable voting systems or more radical approaches like open source governance. Why do we remain in the virtual dark ages, when clearly we have better alternatives readily available?"

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  1. Obligatory Daley by DevConcepts · · Score: 4, Insightful
  2. Because... by twilightzero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do we remain in the virtual dark ages, when clearly we have better alternatives readily available? ...there's lots of money and power behind closed source, which leads to corruption and back-room deals. QED.

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    1. Re:Because... by icebike · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why do we remain in the virtual dark ages, when clearly we have better alternatives readily available? ...there's lots of money and power behind closed source, which leads to corruption and back-room deals. QED.

      And so far, no believable evidence that any errors actually changed the outcome of any election other than in those cases where it was so close that even human error could tip the balance. That's why mandatory recount rules kick in, in most states when races are very tight.

      At least with the paper ballot reader systems you have the actual documents to count, and could count them on by hand or by an Open Source device after an election to prove or disprove any claims of errors.

      But until that happens, even on a small scale, and demonstrates that the closed source systems delivered the wrong result there is just no motivation to do anything.

      Of course the totally electronic voting systems, with NO physical record remains pretty much un-audit-able.

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    2. Re:Because... by jra · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "The love of money" is the root of all evil.

      Getting that particular quote right matters.

    3. Re:Because... by IgnoramusMaximus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not only that, but people seem not to realize that the whole concept of "democracy" is these days merely a marketing gimmick.

      As long as the ignorant masses have an illusion of participation and influence on the government, everything is "fine".

      So it does not really matter if the new "voting" systems are auditable, error-proof or if they are even functional at all. As long as the spectacle of "voting" is staged with all the appropriate lip service, posturing and grand proclamations, then the machines fulfill their requirements. In fact electronic voting machines do better in this than the traditional ones because of all the blinking screens, fancy graphics, the general air of "high tech" to the uninitiated (which means 90%+ of "voters"). They allow for the show to go on with the bonus theme of "progress" while stuffing pockets of various corporate cronies of the politicians along the way.

      As for the "votes" themselves, nothing would appreciably change if the machines did not even bother counting them and replaced them with random noise as most candidates of all political parties these days are already pre-approved by the true rulers of the so-called Western Democracies, i.e. the aristocratic insiders who control all the traditional mass media and the central structures of all major parties.

      No outright ballot-box stuffing, electronic edition, is needed. It simply does not matter anymore as the system is rigged far past the point of the need for such crude methods.

      And this is the true reason why there is no interest in making sure the voting process actually works. Open source is only a tangent in this, because even without Open Source, other means of insuring validity of the votes exist, such as various paper trails etc. But they are simply deemed irrelevant by those who know that the voting and its outcomes are really meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Hence their different priorities and general disdain for any attempts to introduce any sort of "accountability" by well-meaning but horribly out of touch true believers in "democracy".

  3. Because that's the way they like it by Agent0013 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Why do we remain in the virtual dark ages, when clearly we have better alternatives readily available?"

    Because it would take a politician to change the law. But both parties like the broken system we have now because they each want to game the system for their own advantage. Fair and accurate voting doesn't help the political parties or the candidates, it only help the voters!

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  4. Re:Common misconception by jra · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > However, I would actually consider the inability to have a recount a positive. It saves money for the taxpayer and reduces confusion and legal challenges after the election.

    You sound like Tampa mayor Pam Iorio, who actually said that in public, and still got elected.

    Would you both please go jump off a bridge, now?

    Everyone else, repeat after me:

    A VOTE IS A PHYSICAL OBJECT.

    That's your mantra; use it well.

  5. In other words by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A comparison between Vegas slot machines and Electronic voting:
    http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2006/03/16/GR2006031600213.gif

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  6. Re:Because: by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Corporatocracy is just an evolved form of Feudalism.

    There, fixed that for you.

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