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Interop Returns 16 Million IPv4 Addresses
klapaucjusz writes "Every discussion about IPv4 address exhaustion prompts comments about whether Apple (or MIT, or UCB, or whoever) needs all of those addresses. Interop has set the example by returning 16 million IPv4 addresses to the ARIN pool, extending the IPv4 address exhaustion deadline by a whole month."
Nortel has more than the 47.X class-A that they
could reasonably give back. They have a sizeable
flotilla of class-B and class-C networks that
they acquired through M&A over time as well.
When I worked there, I made more than one attempt
to see if we could give some of it back. But
alas, internal politics were an insurmountable
force.
by default WOW uses P2P for updates there are other things like games and more that double or mass NATing can mess up.
DSL bridging modem that supports IPv6
If you're just bridging, then it doesn't need to support IPV6.
Stupid fuckers could have made the protocols interactive, but no, they had to try to be clever and redesign the whole thing, so we will need to run dual stack for 5-10 years. No bugs gonna be there. They were just pissy because no one liked OSI CLNS . Which would be just as easy to switch over to, by the way. How many addressable addresses does IPX/SPX have? Lets Dual stack that instead, just to fuck them.
My only bitter pleasure will be watching microsoft networking melt down. Dynamic DNS? No way bitch, ip6 addresses handed out by the router. Of course they will just continue to cheat and use NetBui with a local global catolauge server, like they do now.
Speaking of stupid fuckers. Microsoft DDNS works just fine with IPv6 assuming you're using dhcpv6. Netbeui is defunct and has nothing to do with a GC server.
We've known this was coming for years. Do you really think adding on another month is going to do a single thing?
Yep, it will add another month. That is a single thing.
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
"ARIN warns that Interop's return will not significantly extend the life of IPv4. ARIN continues to emphasize the need for all Internet stakeholders to adopt the next generation of Internet Protocol, IPv6."
I listen to both RIAA and non-RIAA stuff if I like the music, tangential business/politics nonwithstanding.
IPv4 and IPv6 can peacefully coexist. They already do on many networks and you don't know it. As I noted in another post, in domains this already happens. If you have Windows Server 2008 or R2 and Vista or 7 they'll just start doing IPv6 by themselves. When I look at the DNS for our AD a lot of hosts have A and AAAA records. You don't even know which IP you are using when you key in their name to ask for them. We didn't set any of this up, the OSes just have IPv6 stacks on them enabled and it all happens.
Now not everything is nearly that simple, of course, but it demonstrates how easily they can coexist. So what is more likely to happen is that as IPv4 runs out and places hit in to limits, IPv6 will be used for new stuff. Maybe all new desktops are IPv6 only. Old equipment will keep operating on IPv4 and servers, that have both 4 and 6 can talk to both. As time goes on the IPv4 will become less and less important. Equipment will get replaced and eventually it'll be all IPv6, save for a smattering of legacy systems here and there.
It is not a situation where you have to switch from 4 to 6. You can do both at the same time, no problem.
XP does support IPv6 and you can do IPv4 to 6 proxy conversation.
This is correct. If the class based system had kept up, we would have exhausted the ipv4 address space years ago.
SSC
The ASICs and the entire routers for that matter in the usual suspects (Cisco, Juniper & Co) have had stable IPv6 support for more than 7-8 years now.
Baker's Law: Misery no longer loves company. Nowadays it insists on it
http://www.sigsegv.cx/
Wow... Have you heard of the D-Link DIR-825? As long as you get hardware revision B1, you can flash OpenWRT onto it. Of course, you should probably compile it yourself, so that you can change the regulatory domain to something other than the intersection of US and EU regulations... I got some here, and on eBay, if you get them from Korea, you can get one for USD100 or so.
And yes, it supports IPv6 :)
Cheers,
Michael
Private IPv6 IP ranges have been designated:
Link local addresses: fe80::* - automatically self-assigned by an IPv6 device, exist even if the device has a global address
Unique local addresses: fc00::* / fd00::* - manually assigned, globally unique but not routable on the internet
may be years and may have tons of changes, ala N draft VS N spec
The IPv6 spec was actually published in 1998.
Thought most of us (ie those of us who are in a business with its own IPv4 address, or who's ISP already has addresses) probably will get on fine without IPv6 for a few more years, so I suppose it's the new guys who can't get online without it that are going to be driving IPv6. As more and more people are v6 only, then others online will have to get compatible to be able to communicate with them.
I'm not fussed about upgrading yet, though currently I'm only renting anyway, so any upgrades to an IPv6 capable router are up to my flatmate, and of course our ISP; there's really no point buying a v6 capable router if they don't support it and we'd probably be buying a new router in a couple of years anyway.
which is totally what she said