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Giant Impact Crater Found In Australia

An anonymous reader writes "One of the largest meteorite impacts in the world has been discovered in the South Australian outback by geothermal researchers. It may explain one of the many extinction events in the past 600 million years, and may contain rare and exotic minerals. The crater is said to have been 'produced by an asteroid six to 12 km across' — which is really big!"

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  1. Re:discovered? by LingNoi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Obviously not in the article.. not even one damn picture of it..

  2. But how much energy is that? by Zaphodox · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Okay so they give widely varying estimates of the crater's size - assuming the centre value of 120 Km a +/- 60 Km ia one hell of a margin of error. I imagine that the energy released from such an impact is orders of magnitude greater than any nuke we could ever throw at each other. The article metions the release of CO2, but i thought that by definition asteroids were just lumps of rock. So where does the CO2 come from after the impact?

    1. Re:But how much energy is that? by Trogre · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I would guess the ground. When a meteor hits land, a lot of the ejected material is from the ground, not the meteor itself. Rocks apparently have a lot of oxygen and carbon locked up in them.

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    2. Re:But how much energy is that? by rve · · Score: 2, Informative

      Maybe it crashed into a limestone formation? Limestone (and other carbonate rock like marble and karst) are basically giant lumps of CO2.

    3. Re:But how much energy is that? by careysub · · Score: 2, Informative

      Okay so they give widely varying estimates of the crater's size - assuming the centre value of 120 Km a +/- 60 Km ia one hell of a margin of error. I imagine that the energy released from such an impact is orders of magnitude greater than any nuke we could ever throw at each other. The article metions the release of CO2, but i thought that by definition asteroids were just lumps of rock. So where does the CO2 come from after the impact?

      It is about 100,000 megatons, at its peak the world nuclear arsenal had around 20,000 megatons.

      CO2 is released if the asteroid impacts a carbonate rock bed - it then releases the CO2 just like a giant cement kiln (which is a major source of human CO2 release BTW - about 5% of the global release).

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    4. Re:But how much energy is that? by bigrockpeltr · · Score: 2, Informative

      jsut to correct your (minor) mistake, karst is not a type of rock, it is a type of topography used to refer to geological features made from (usually eroded) carbonate rock and include caves (including stalactites, stalagmites and other cave formations), aquiefers, dolines, sinkholes etc. Cockpit country in Jamaica is a good example of karst topography

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  3. Re:discovered? by captainpanic · · Score: 5, Informative

    Obviously not in the article.. not even one damn picture of it..

    It is very difficult to photograph something that is 80-160 km across and buried under many layers of sediments... that may have something to do with the lack of pictures.
    TFA doesn't mention when the discovery was made, so it is hard to say how much time they've had to produce some images for the media.

    I can imagine that specialized satellites can scan the area for geological differences. But I imagine that Google Maps shows no sign of this crater at all.

  4. Re:discovered? by Trogre · · Score: 2, Informative

    Okay so they say in TFA that the crater has most likely eroded away, but they could have at least shown a map of the region with a yellow circle to indicate where they think it is.

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  5. Where? by DeathToBill · · Score: 4, Informative

    TFA doesn't mention a location. There is a roughly circular sort of feature in about the right place and about the right size centred here:

    http://maps.google.com.au/?ie=UTF8&ll=-28.614665,141.139984&spn=0.806518,1.234589&t=h&z=10

    You can see it better if you zoom out a couple of steps. It's not very well defined, and may just be wishful thinking on my part!

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    1. Re:Where? by atomicstrawberry · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're looking for a roughly circular feature? I think this is a more likely spot personally:

      http://maps.google.com.au/maps?sll=-28.87835,141.047974&sspn=4.39095,8.453979&ll=-35.310258,149.125156&spn=0.015987,0.033023&t=h&z=16

  6. Obligatory by antifoidulus · · Score: 3, Funny

    "You call that a meteorite? THIS is a meteorite!"

  7. Obviously... by jhesse · · Score: 2

    This must be where The Lost City of Pnakotus was located!

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  8. Re:discovered? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    > they could have at least shown a map of the region with a yellow circle to indicate where they think it is.

    They said the geothermal researcher who discovered this crater was working in the Cooper Basin, South Australia.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooper_Basin

    This is where it is:

    http://www.hydrocarbons-technology.com/projects/CooperbasinAust/images/2-cooper-basin.jpg

    The geothermal energy project in that area of the world is near the town of Innaminka.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innamincka,_South_Australia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Innamincka_location_map_in_South_Australia.PNG

    The geothermal energy project is there because the earth's crust at that location is unusually thin.

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/environment/hot-rock-power-the-way-ahead/2007/04/11/1175971183212.html
    http://www.adelaide.edu.au/adelaidean/issues/9461/news9469.html

    The earth's thin crust in that area may actually have something to do with the impact crater.

    This is a quite remote part of the world. Desert. There is almost nothing there.

    It is not really surprising that this impact crater has not been discovered up until now.

  9. Original Source by martyb · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's an article on the University of Queensland's web site (where the researchers hail from).

    The land surface that the asteroid hit is now buried under layers of sedimentary rock and Dr Uysal thinks the original crater most likely eroded away.

    "Dr Uysal and Dr Glikson will present their findings at the Australian Geothermal Energy Conference in Adelaide, 16-19 November 2010."

    To read more about their research, see their conference paper (pdf). (This may not be specifically on the impact, but on their geothermal research, instead.)

    In short, not the biggest, oldest, newest, or any other superlative. Still, given the estimated size of the impact, I'd expect it to have had a major impact on the Earth's weather for quite a while.

  10. Re:discovered? by flyingfsck · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That impact crater is dwarfed by some other structures on earth: The Bushveld complex in South Africa is several hundred kilometers across, but it is so old (> 2 billion years = half the age of the earth) that it is not clear how it formed. Either a gigantic volcano, or a gigantic metor impact could have caused it.

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  11. Re:Meh, I've seen bigger... by Rogerborg · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seriously, a 80-160 km crater is not giant. Big, okay, they don't form every day, but there are much bigger craters than that. Like Menrva on Titan.

    Oh, sure, sure, but you really had to hike there before all the tourists discovered it and ruined the local culture.

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  12. Especially limestone by wiredog · · Score: 3, Informative

    Limestone is calcium carbonate, which releases tons of CO2 when burned.

  13. Re:Meh, I've seen bigger... by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2, Informative

    As a quick guess I'd say the destruction would be limited to a relatively small area of the planet. You'd have total devastation within a radius of maybe a few hundred kilometers, but the rest of the planet would be fine. You wouldn't have ash encircling the planet and blocking out the sun as with a Chicxulub-type impact (which is by far the most devastating effect of a large asteroid impact to life on a planet), although you may still get some smaller Eyjafjallajokull-size ash clouds.

    Now if it landed in the ocean you'd have serious mega-tsunamis that would wipe out of a lot of coastal areas all around the world, but again not devastating on a planetary scale.

    Just my somewhat-educated guess.

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  14. Re:What would an impact look like? by careysub · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On TV you see lots of computer sims but none look realistic to me. Would there be a light covering the sky so bright you couldn't see it or would it traverse the atmosphere so quick it wouldn't have time to heat up and you really would see this huge space rock impact. And what would the explosion look like? WOuld it be a fireball initially or would you simply see billions of tons or rock being launched into orbit?

    A very useful source of information is the Asteroid Impact Effects on-line program: http://impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects/

    Taking their upper size estimate (12 km) and average impact parameters (17 km/sec, 45 degree angle of entry) this would light up brilliantly at around 120 km altitude and get brighter all the way down its 10 second transit to the Earth. However you would probably not want to be anywhere you could actually see its entry. At a distance of 1250 km you would just see it light up on entry on the horizon, and thereafter the glow would be indirect until impact. THEN - part of the fireball which appear ~5 times larger and brighter than the Sun would rise above the horizon and irradiate you for about half an hour. This would be quite uncomfortable - a first degree thermal burn would develop after several seconds, but you get roasted for a hundred times longer than that, or until the fine ejecta thrown into space comes down and starts blocking your light after 10 minutes of so. And an hour after the impact a 12 psi blast wave with tornado-speed 335 mph winds would hit. This would likely be fatal.

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  15. Not uncommon by confused+one · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For what it's worth, these craters are probably not as uncommon as people think. I'm sitting inside one right now.

    1. Re:Not uncommon by Push+Latency · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've always wondered if the odd, round-shaped area in the "Northeast Kingdom" of Vermont was one, though I've never mentioned it to anyone until now. I used to wallpaper my room with topographic and relief maps as a kid, and that has always rather stuck out whenever I look at a relief map of VT.

      http://www.vermont-map.org/vermont.jpg

  16. Re:Meh, I've seen bigger... by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Seriously, a 80-160 km crater is not giant. Big, okay, they don't form every day, but there are much bigger craters than that. Like Menrva on Titan.

    Nobody is saying this is the biggest crater ever created in the solar system.

    But, they are saying that anything which creates a crater of that size on Earth is going to make one hell of a mess. From TFA:

    "Nothing within a few hundred kilometres of the blast would have survived, but more importantly the climate of the entire Earth would have been changed. It would have filled the atmosphere with so much dust that sunlight would be obscured, possibly for several years, killing a large amount of plant life on which animals obviously rely, thereby causing a global kill event - although perhaps not on the scale of the impact that wiped out the dinosaurs.

    "If such an impact occurred now, the majority of the human population would be wiped out, through the consequent reduction in our ability to grow crops," he added.

    In this case, "big" is relative. And, me, I'd call this pretty damned big in terms of what it actually signifies.

    You can niggle over the fact that Titan has a bigger crater if you like. Me, I wouldn't want to be around when something like this happened. Have you gotten so jaded with this stuff as to lose track of what it actually means?

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