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Prepare To Be Watched While You Watch a Movie

BussyB writes "Gaining entry to some movie theaters lately gives patrons an experience that is on par with going through a TSA security checkpoint at the airport. Then once you've gained access, there are cameras strategically positioned that record your every move. Unfortunately, the extent to which these companies monitor movie-goers is only going to get worse."

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  1. Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? by Sonny+Yatsen · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Only, this time it's "Who watches the watchers?"

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    1. Re:Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? by crovira · · Score: 3, Funny

      "If you stare into the Abyss long enough the Abyss stares back at you." - Friedrich Nietzsche

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    2. Re:Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 3, Funny

      I didn't realize they were remaking The Abyss. Still not enough to get me to go back to the theater, though.

  2. even more reason to wait for the dvd by DynamoJoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On the upside, Hollywood keeps turning out crap so I feel like I'm not missing much by waiting for the movie to come out on video.

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    1. Re:even more reason to wait for the dvd by WankersRevenge · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My wife and i started to go to drive-in when my daughter was born and while the quality isn't super duper imax 3D, there's nothing quite like laying on the hood of my car and sipping a beer or laying out on blanket with a radio besides us. Next summer, we're picking up a portable grill to get a little tailgating action going on. Honestly, I see no reason to go back to the traditional theaters. The experience is just too miserable for the money plus, we're guaranteed to see our drive-in movie in 2D which for me is worth the price of admission (I get headaches after awhile, plus the 3D glasses never fit right over my own glasses - chafing the shit out of my nose)

    2. Re:even more reason to wait for the dvd by BeanThere · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are still movie theaters? I stopped going long ago. From all the people talking on their cellphones and talking to one another during the movie, to sticky floors and sitting on someone's old dirty popcorn etc., I'd much rather watch at home, I have a decent screen and sound system, I can pause whenever I want, watch whenever I want, I can rewind if I accidentally missed something or stopped concentrating, and I don't even have to get my ass out my chair and get dressed and sit in traffic etc. Not to mention the prices, and the overpriced snacks and limited snack choices. Perhaps if I cared about being more social and wasn't basically a hermit it would be a different story.

    3. Re:even more reason to wait for the dvd by mlts · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Go to a theater that doesn't suck. I've seen security at an Alamo Drafthouse franchise remove cellphone yappers quite quickly. Then find something decent on the menu and your beverage of choice and kick back. If you have to go use the restroom, there is plenty of space to duck under the table and go down the aisle.

      Going to the Alamo is a nice change from the neighborhood watering hole.

    4. Re:even more reason to wait for the dvd by BronsCon · · Score: 3, Funny

      Portable girls are the best. The larger units that just sit there on the couch are nowhere near as convenient as the ones you can bring with you.

      Then again, the couchtop units are easier to get away from when you need to.

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  3. The bigger problem by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The bigger problem we're facing with corporate practices like this is that, when the revolution comes, we won't have a wall big enough to put all these marketing departments against. We should really start to prioritize who will be first, and who goes second, third, etc.

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    1. Re:The bigger problem by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Funny

      So it's time to start building a bigger wall.

      They have one in China. They had a revolution too.

  4. Think of the positives! by happy_place · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hey, this can't be all bad... With video feedback, perhaps movie professionals could automate audience reactions to various scenes, and systematically improve their movie products. Also murders within theaters could go down... and when the couples in the corner start making out, maybe the theater employees would grab some popcorn and get a good show. See? It's not all bad... being watched all the time. Ahem.

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  5. Monitor which ads get the best reaction? by amaiman · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the article: "Within the cinema industry this tool will feed powerful marketing data that will inform film directors, cinema advertisers and cinemas with useful data about what audiences enjoy and what adverts capture the most attention"

    Hint: We don't enjoy the adverts, especially after paying almost $12 for a ticket. Perhaps if the whole audience gives the camera the finger through all of the ads, they will get the message? :-)

  6. Just wrong by symes · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is a gross invasion of privacy - I would expect to be informed of any recording at the time I purchase the ticket, who was making the recording and to what purpose they were being used. I would also expect that I could opt out at that time and at any time in the future without penalty. If the only choice I have is to no longer visit cinemas, then so be it. Either that or I might have to find a certain mask to wear.

    1. Re:Just wrong by bmo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There are typically signs that say that there are cameras. Indeed, in the Wallgreens down the road, there is a TV monitor facing the doors as you walk in just to say "Yes, if you shoplift, we've got tape"

      This? This isn't about shoplifting. There are also no signs or any indication that this is going on.

      That's the difference.

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    2. Re:Just wrong by mcgrew · · Score: 3, Informative

      This is a gross invasion of privacy - I would expect to be informed of any recording at the time I purchase the ticket, who was making the recording and to what purpose they were being used.

      That's the law in Illinois. Any theater owner who implimented this here would be committing a felony unless signs were posted.

    3. Re:Just wrong by Seumas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And those security tapes are usually rotated rather than archived, sold, distributed, analyzed, etc.

  7. Nothing kney; In 1995... by netsavior · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In 1995 I had a summer job as an employee of Buena Vista (the company that releases Disney's major animated pictures). My job? Auditing movie theaters by counting the people attending and comparing to the ticket sales, ensuring that during the screening, nobody was taking pictures or using other recording devices (if they were, we had an off duty police officer on site working security).

    The buena vista hit squad (as we called ourselves) was nothing new when I joined up.

    Fast forward to my weekend job as second shift manager of a movie theater while I was in college (1999) we had 2 "crowd cameras" at every screen, you could see the entire audience the whole time the movie was going, we used it to bust people who decided that the movie theater was an apropriate place to have sex (including some employees after hours *eyeroll*).

  8. Re:Heh by Seriousity · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My initial thought is that they're recording peoples' responses to product placement / subliminal advertising, in an attempt to gauge the effectiveness thereof.

    Did anyone else catch the giant cigarette advertisement in the last James Bond? It was right after he had sex with the blonde, what a hero.

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  9. Re:Uh...what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I had a man pat me down and perform a full cavity search, but theater management called the police and had him escorted out. Does that count?

  10. Wear a Mask! by Pigamagrundy · · Score: 3, Funny

    Is it unethical to wear a mask to a horror film?

    1. Re:Wear a Mask! by stiggle · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Forget the mask - have a baseball cap covered in IR LEDs.
      That should mask your face from their cameras

  11. That AND the cost. I'll stay at home thanks by Stu101 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I know price has already been mentioned but my wife and I went to the cinema last week. Everywhere signs about the right of the cinema to search bags etc. That was bad enough, but once we had been vetted for snacks, we purchased some. By the time we had some snacks (Nachos, popcorn and 2 colas), and the cinema tickets, we had spent about $70.

    I think in future, I will just stay home. Treated like crap and ripped off, and now VIDEOD like a common thief. No thanks. It's almost like they are trying to make me pirate stuff so they can sue me ;)

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    1. Re:That AND the cost. I'll stay at home thanks by RMH101 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not necessarily. I can put up a sign in my shop saying I have the right to punch you in the face, but I'd get arrested if I did it...

    2. Re:That AND the cost. I'll stay at home thanks by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I hope you're lying about being a LEO. Threatening some minimum wage jackass just trying to do his job for the property owner with murder and a cover up as a legitimate use of deadly force is heinously irresponsible and in fact criminal.

      You have no right to access private property on terms other than those of the property owner. If the property owner wants all bags searched, you comply or piss off. That's how trespass law works. It's not a right to search bags, it's a condition for entry. You don't want to meet that condition, the property owner has the right to deny you entry. The end.

      I am not a lawyer and the previous should not be construed as legal advice.

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  12. That won't be on the evaluation form. by crovira · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Marketing surveys suffer from remarkably selective attention; sort of like asking "When did you stop beating your wife?" reveals a certain prejudice.

    Instead of noticing that we loathe any and all of the ads, they are going to ask: "Which one did you enjoy the most?"

    This assumes that we enjoyed any of the ads.

    We don't, but that's not what they're measuring is it...

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    1. Re:That won't be on the evaluation form. by quacking+duck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Instead of noticing that we loathe any and all of the ads, they are going to ask: "Which one did you enjoy the most?"

      This assumes that we enjoyed any of the ads.

      We don't, but that's not what they're measuring is it...

      Elections usually run on the same principle. Why should marketing surveys be any different?

  13. Re:Finally! by Shadis · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Thank you for watching.. We invite you to stay for out next feature presentation..'Deep Throat'

  14. Re:Heh by DarkDust · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Almost, now it's: "In Corporate America, movie watches you" :-) I'm not from the US so I can't tell how bad it is, but one can get the impression that the level of surveillance is even worse than during the cold war... but most surveillance seems not to be done by the government any more but by corporations.

  15. Re:Heh by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, I don't fly because of the TSA, I guess the movie theater owners down't want my money any more than the airline industry.

    Stupid cowardly people...

  16. Re:Uh...what? by somersault · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just a couple of days ago I was watching a movie, and an attendant came in with what must have been a night vision camera and scanned the room with it :/

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  17. Re:Heh by TheKidWho · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yo dawg, we heard you like to watch movies, so we put you in a movie so you can watch yourself watching a movie while you watch a movie!

  18. Who cares? by realmolo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Literally NONE of my friends go to the movies anymore. They all have Netflix accounts and Blu-Ray players and big screens.

    Movie theaters will essentially disappear within 10 years. I would say it's their own damn fault, but really, they simply had no chance once home theater technology got good enough and cheap enough.

  19. Re:Heh by RMH101 · · Score: 5, Funny

    see also:
    Girl to Bond: "Nice watch".
    Bond: "Omega"
    Girl: (breathes) "...beautiful"

    In the UK, film critic Mark Kermode let a successful campaign to have audiences shout "KERCHING!" at this point when watching the film. More of this kind of thing is required.

  20. Re:Heh by E+IS+mC(Square) · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I used to go to theaters almost every week. But past 5 years, it's just once or twice. Getting a nice projector and having patience for DVD/BD release works for me.

    And I can drink beer from bottle straight up.

    My problem was not (just) theater owners, it had more to do with mobile loving teens.

  21. use the cameras to identify the A-HOLES by newdsfornerds · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Have the cameras identify the a-holes who can't stop talking during the movie and deliver a painful jolt of electricity to their seat until they stfu.

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  22. Re:Heh by snowraver1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you're stoned anough, even Jar Jar is amusing.

    Stop spreading your filthy lies!

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  23. Re:Heh by spun · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, mcgrew, but you are an old coot. Old coots have the privilege of being able to say crazy things like "I won't fly on no gol-durned airplane no more because the security people want to look at my wiener" or "I don't go to movies because they are watching me." I'm actually looking forward to my coot-hood. I'm going to believe in something really crazy, like the basic decency of human nature, or the perfectibility of mankind or something like that.

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  24. Re:Heh by nabsltd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It doesn't matter how good or bad the items being advertised are, I don't want my attention distracted from the story the film is telling.

    Basically, as long as the characters don't "advertise", I think the public is fine with it.

    For example, if Q says to Bond, "now, let me tell you about the 'additions' to the BMW Z3...", and that's the only mention of the make or model of the car in the movie, it's probably OK. But if Bond were constantly asking people if they "want a ride in my BMW", it'd be too much (like the mentioned Omega watch example).

  25. Re:Heh by ImprovOmega · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And Bond wore a Rolex Submariner traditionally

    I suppose it's how you define "traditionally." OO7 hasn't worn a Rolex since 1973's "Live and Let Die." In fact, aside from the early Connery films Bond has usually *not* worn a Rolex.

    Hence "traditionally" all other Bonds other than Connery are pretenders to the throne.