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Rackspace vs. Amazon — the Cloud Wars

fdicostanzo writes "The folks at Mixpanel are leaving Rackspace's server cloud for Amazon and have left a little note about their reasons. There's been some talk that Rackspace's offering has not been up to snuff once you scale. Analysis suggests that Rackspace's offering still has some advantages however."

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  1. Re:cloud vs VM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yes Google App Engine is a good example of true cloud computing. Say what you want about the limitations, but it is cloud computing.

    Saying Google App Engine makes Amazon look flexible is nonsense. Apples and oranges. The upside of App Engine is that it really is cloud computing, so you actually get all of the benefits that we keep hearing about.

    How could Google have done it differently and pleased you? How could they not have approved languages, when they needed to modify them to make them cloud capable? Do you expect to just toss a mysql instance and a few perl scripts into a magical cloud machine and watch it take off?

  2. Colocation? by Oceanplexian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem with these solutions is they sell you services like a prepaid phone company to abstract the real cost.

    My company has done the math and unless you only need the capacity say, 3 hours out of the day, EC2 (and Rackspace) simply can't compete with running your own hardware. We've heard the arguments about hiring engineers, buying servers, and renting space, but even after those expenses you still come out ahead if you have roughly more than 20 machines.

    Also, Rackspace and Amazon sell Xen virtualization hosting. The software is open source and freely available if you want to use it for yourself. I just guess "Cloud Hosting" sounds better but it's not that hard to roll a similar setup if you want the scalability.

    1. Re:Colocation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      We've heard the arguments about hiring engineers, buying servers, and renting space, but even after those expenses you still come out ahead if you have roughly more than 20 machines.

      Except for the fact that hiring those engineers, buying those servers, and renting that space will be met with great resistance in most organizations. HR wont allow the extra headcount, legal is concerned about the safety of the space you're renting or some other BS, etc., etc. It's all a big headache and even if you decide to go through with it, it will take you weeks or even months to get off the ground.

      But paying a monthly bill to Amazon? Nobody cares and you can have a new server running in minutes.

  3. Re:Sometimes you need real hardware by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They missed the fact that RackSpace offers hybrid cloud options that Amazon just can't match at this point. Got IO issues? So did GitHub when they were running on Amazon's infrastructure. Know how they solved it? They moved to Rackspace and married the cloud for front-end with physical hardware for their IO intense workloads. It seems to me these guys may just be naive. They've probably only sidestepped their problems for now.

    To be fair if they have probably solved their problems, in that Amazon cloud is extremely horizontally scalable. It is a typical "throw money at it" solution, like someone who has sent a package by motorcycle courtier solving the problem of shifting 10,000 packages between warehouses by hiring 10,000 motorcycle couriers - but it will probably work for them.

  4. Shut up by tygerstripes · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cloud Computing is such a loosely-defined and heavily abused term that its "true meaning" is almost as open to interpretation as "Web 2.0," and virtualised resources are often included in the definition.

    The ever-colloquial Wikipedia states that it "typically involves over-the-Internet provision of dynamically scalable and often virtualized resources" while Foldoc states that it is "A loosely defined term for any system providing access via the Internet to processing power, storage, software or other computing services."

    I'm fine with people debating the issue of the term's definition and provenance, even with people saying that one meaning is correct and another isn't, but flatly denying the existence of controversy without bothering to cite your authority is not conducive to anyone's understanding. Please, explain your position rather than simply stating it.

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  5. Re:Huh? by Dynedain · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Episodes 2&3 of what?

    And why are you making a Yoda-like quote?

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