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Gold Nanoparticles Turn Trees Into Streetlights

An anonymous reader writes "Street lights are an important part of our urban infrastructure — they light our way home and make the roads safe at night. But what if we could create natural street lights that don't need electricity to power them? A group of scientists in Taiwan recently discovered that placing gold nanoparticles within the leaves of trees causes them to give off a luminous reddish glow. The idea of using trees to replace street lights is an ingenious one — not only would it save on electricity costs and cut CO2 emissions, but it could also greatly reduce light pollution in major cities."

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  1. Save electricity, sure by afidel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah because mining gold and refining it and the turning it into nano-particles takes zero energy....

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    1. Re:Save electricity, sure by vux984 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah because mining gold and refining it and the turning it into nano-particles takes zero energy....

      Wrong question.

      The question is whether it use less energy than mining, refining, manufacturing natural resources into compete LED based solutions, and then deploying and running them.

    2. Re:Save electricity, sure by CAIMLAS · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Regardless of the facts, if they use the same "math" they use to figure out the ecological footprint of things like commercial biofuel production, hybrid and electric vehicles, and other green technologies, it'll undoubtedly be "better".

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  2. Deforest the roadways... by RobertM1968 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd be chopping down trees everywhere!!!!

    Nah, I know the particles are so small it would make the effort a waste of time. That aside, on a serious note, what happens to the "streetlights" when the Fall comes each year?

    1. Re:Deforest the roadways... by pspahn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The plant these guys used in TFA is a perennial, so it's not going to matter until they can figure out how to do the same in a large tree. At that point, I would imagine they would focus efforts on broadleaf evergreens (boxwoods, euonymous, some others). I don't know why conifers wouldn't be possible either, there's just generally a much lower surface area.

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  3. Autumn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The nice thing about street lights, though, is that they don't fall off every autumn.

  4. When I Was a Kid by pete-classic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When I was a kid, sprinkling heavy metals around was considered a bad thing.

    My, how times change.

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  5. Winter? by Necron69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can see at least one problem with this idea...

    Necron69

  6. Wait, what the... ?!? by c · · Score: 2, Insightful

    > but it could also greatly reduce light pollution in major cities.

    By replacing street lights with a different kind of street light? One without an apparent "off" switch?

    It would seem to make more sense to just reduce the number of lights, or make them smart enough to be on-demand.

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    1. Re:Wait, what the... ?!? by Amorymeltzer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It may not be the worst thing to come our way yet, but light pollution is tragic. Back in the day the Milky Way and Jupiter cast shadows, so it's no wonder everyone thought they were gods. If we had a better view of the stars (even our most unspoiled land is a pittance comparatively) I guarantee more people would give more thought to them.

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  7. oh really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "...not only would it save on electricity costs and cut CO2 emissions, but it could also greatly reduce light pollution in major cities."

    What a stupid thing to say. If they provide enough light to replace street lights, then they contribute just as much to light pollution as the street lights do.

  8. Re:Now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why not go all the way and genetically modify infants to have cat like night vision? Think of how much energy we would save!!!

  9. Re:Now... by xaxa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mushrooms are fungi and trees are plants... you may as well try and cross a dog with a sunflower.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_(biology)

  10. Re:Now... by interkin3tic · · Score: 2, Insightful

    aren't there some kinds of mushrooms and other flora that glow in the dark?

    Yeah, but they're not quite as ubiquitous along paths you'd like to light up as -trees- are. They also don't seem to be bright enough.

    Why not just splice that plant with a tree

    There's the issue of releasing genetically engineered organisms into the environment. If they were spending significant amounts of energy glowing at night, they might not grow as well as normal trees, if you spliced something in to make them artificially competitive you'd worry about that leaking out into other plants.

  11. Re:Now... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First of all, they're shining high wavelength ultraviolet light at the chlorophyll in the leaves (useless in New England this time of year). This is not an advance in passive lighting but basically a molecular version of putting florescent paint on plants. It is a conversion of projected light. Secondly, the article doesn't state how much UV light is required so there's no way to know whether this is even a reasonable replacement in terms of energy savings (to say nothing of how hard it is to set up gold-leaf trees instead of street lights). That this is even considered a replacement for real streetlights here on Slashdot is a pure flight of fantasy. You might as well talk about how Unicorns will replace chicken as a primary protein source for Americans.

  12. Re:Now... by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Insightful

    They've crossed corn with jelly fish. I don't see how this would be any different, fundamentally.

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  13. Re:Fluorescence effect by blincoln · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nothing to see here, move on.

    Furthermore, if this isn't immediately obvious to anyone, the photos in TFA are not of the fluorescence. Some of them are near-infrared photos of trees, and the others look like a tree illuminated at night by conventional lighting.

    Definitely nothing to see here.

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  14. Cities Suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Guess what, those of us out in the rural areas do fine without any street lights. Without so much light pollution your eyes get better and you see in the dim light. We get up early, do our chores in the rising light and come in with the night fall. The problem isn't the dark, the problem is urbanism. Cure the cities.

  15. Re:Now... by ConceptJunkie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yeah, but they'll have the last laugh when the Ent army rends you limb from limb.

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  16. Excuse me, I have a question: by kheldan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How does the tree feel about all this?
    Seriously, is this healthy for the tree? More to the point, can you get the tree to grow with this feature as a natural part of it's genetic makeup?
    Sorry to sound cynical but this sounds like another one of those "news" stories that exist solely to get attention, not because it's about anything really practical.

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  17. Re:Street lights do NOT waste electricity (yet) by mdmkolbe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The electric company has no problem dealing with low total loads. The only problem is when the load is unpredictable or changes quickly. The biggest generators take a while to spin up/down. Night time tends to be a fairly predictable change though so city lights aren't really burning "free" electricity.

  18. Re:Now... by wierd_w · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, That would be fungus. We Americans are mushrooms.

    Our corporate media keeps us in the dark and feeds us pure bullshit.

  19. Re:Ha! by operagost · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But that's a small price to pay if we can save some oil so we can drive giant SUVs for a few more years. I mean, not having birds is one thing, but having to drive a downsized sport-utility vehicle is just too much to bear.

    Congratulations: you combined both a straw man and a false dilemma in one fallacious statement.

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  20. Re:Unless by agbinfo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Infinity isn't a number.

    Right

    If anything, the concept represents a "really really big positive number" in this context, in which case, yes, if you add something greater than 0 to that really really big number, then you will have an even bigger number.

    If I remember, and understood, my college math properly:

    In mathematics, k+inf. is inf. but you wouldn't represent it that way. It would probably be a limit. So the limit of a+k as a approaches infinity is infinity. Are they the same?

    You could consider the limit of (a+k)/a as a approaches infinity, this limit is 1 so it would appear to be the same.

    If you consider the limit of (a+k)-a as a approaches infinity then the limit is k so it would appear that they are different.

    So I don't think you can say whether they are the same or not but, within some contexts, you could consider them to be the same or different based on that context.

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