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The Coming War Over the Future of Java

snydeq writes "Fatal Exception's Neil McAllister writes about what could be the end of the Java Community Process as we know it. With the Apache Software Foundation declaring war on Oracle over Java, the next likely step would be a vote of no confidence in the JCP, which, if the ASF can convince enough members to follow suit, 'could effectively unravel the Java community as a whole,' McAllister writes, with educators, academics, and researchers having little incentive to remain loyal to an Oracle-controlled platform. 'Independent developers could face the toughest decisions of all. Even if the JCP dissolves, many developers will be left with few alternatives,' with .Net offering little advantage, and Perl, Python, and Ruby unable to match Java's performance. The dark horse? Google Go — a language Google might just fast-track in light of its patent suit with Oracle over Android." Reader Revorm adds related news that Oracle and Apple have announced the OpenJDK project for OS X.

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  1. Re:Performance my A** by Toy+G · · Score: 0, Troll

    The ONLY reason Java is as popular is because Corporate America loves a corporate solution and Java was being sold as a solution by major vendors [...] This is really why good open source languages are neglected by large companies, they cannot charge anything for it.

    QFT. Perl and Python are as fast as, or even faster than, Java.

    TBH, this seemed just like a slashvertisement for Go.

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  2. Re:Alternatives by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 0, Troll

    I have literally never thought that. Fuck Java, I've hated it since 1996 and if there is a hell for intangibles I hope it burns there.

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  3. Only for Microsoft platforms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    If you're a 100% Microsoft shop, then C# may be a solution. If you need to support multiple platforms, then C# is right out the window.

  4. Re:C# by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 0, Troll

    With Microsofts history over the past 20 years, I'd say they won't pull any strange tricks until enough people have adapted it and are locked in, then they will suddenly have a change of heart.

    When have Microsoft ever had a "change of heart" and clamped down on something of theirs that was previously open? What is the precedent over the 20 year period to which you refer?

    Before anyone answers with FAT32/Tom Tom, Microsoft never opened (or encouraged anyone to use) FAT32 before they started licensing it. They also didn't sue anyone for years after they began their licensing program.

    And how about those software projects that have not been officially sanctioned by Microsoft? How is Wine going? And ReactOS (even after there were claims of disassembled MS code in the project)? Still no legal action.

  5. Re:Why not C#? by Gadget_Guy · · Score: 0, Troll

    Citation needed

    Here you go.

    It seems quite clear that the original poster was describing his/her personal experience with the language. It is like asking for a citation when someone says that their favourite colour is blue. The better response would be to ask for an example of the problem.

  6. Re:Alternatives? by smcdow · · Score: 0, Troll

    Dang! Out of mod points! Anyone who's developing thick-client GUIs in this day and age is a fool.

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  7. Re:Alternatives? by imroy · · Score: 0, Troll

    wxWidgets - helping X-windows newbs like me since at least 1997.

    The correct name is " The X Window System ". So yes, you clearly are a newb.