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Palin E-Mail Snoop Gets Year In Prison

netbuzz writes "David Kernell, whose prying into Sarah Palin's personal e-mail account caused an uproar two months before the 2008 presidential election, was today sentenced to a year and a day by a judge in Knoxville, Tenn. Kernell was convicted of misdemeanor computer fraud and felony obstruction of justice back in April. His attorney had argued for probation on the grounds that what Kernell did amounted to a prank that spun out of control."

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  1. If he gets a year... by ickleberry · · Score: 5, Funny

    Then I wonder what punishment the guy who uncovered this has waiting for him.

  2. Sentence by UninformedCoward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I am pretty sure the actual sentence was 1 year 1 day in custody; to be served at a halfway house.

    The local source - http://www.newschannel5.com/Global/story.asp?S=13490313&Call=Email&Format=HTML

  3. Why? by wjousts · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He committed a crime, so he goes to jail. What damage is it you want to mitigate here?

  4. Re:As I recall by DurendalMac · · Score: 4, Informative

    Do you see "hacking" in there? He was convicted of computer fraud as he accessed an account that was not his. He also got busted for obstruction of justice by panicking and wiping his drive, which is what landed him the real jail time.

  5. Meanwhile, billionaire Mark Zuckerberg skates by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How Mark Zuckerberg Hacked Into Rival ConnectU In 2004
    Mar. 5, 2010
    http://www.businessinsider.com/how-mark-zuckerberg-hacked-connectu-2010-3

    ...At one point, Mark appears to have exploited a flaw in ConnectU's account verification process to create a fake Cameron Winklevoss account with a fake Harvard.edu email address.

    In this new, fake profile, he listed Cameron's height as 7'4", his hair color as "Ayran Blond," and his eye color as "Sky Blue." He listed Cameron's "language" as "WASP-y."

    Next, Mark appears to have logged into the accounts of some ConnectU users and changed their privacy settings to invisible. The idea here was apparently to make it harder for people to find friends on ConnectU, thus reducing its utility. Eventually, Mark appears to have gone a step further, deactivating about 20 ConnectU accounts entirely...

    1. Re:Meanwhile, billionaire Mark Zuckerberg skates by characterZer0 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you are rich, you get away with stuff. It is the American way.

      http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20101104/NEWS/101109939/1078&ParentProfile=1062

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  6. The mistake this guy made... by jez9999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... was not being in the Federal government. If he had been, his actions would've been deemed legal.

    1. Re:The mistake this guy made... by hedwards · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm glad I'm not the only one noticing the irony. Ms. Palin has been really supportive of the NSA's illegal wiretap program. I'm not sure what she thinks the problem is that it was her stuff being accessed or that it wasn't an NSA goon doing it for her protection.

  7. It is all in who the victim is.... by jythie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So this kid gets a year in prison... but most cases like this will not even get a return call from the police. I guess it is not just 'how much justice can you afford' but 'how much your victim can afford'.

    1. Re:It is all in who the victim is.... by osgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I completely don't understand your viewpoint.

      Kernell increased the notoriety of the crime himself by trying to interrupt a very public political campaign. Contrary to your assertion, it isn't like Sarah Palin singled him out and sent her hounds after him. I'd be surprised if she was involved at all in the event beyond turning over evidence and cooperating with law enforcement.

      Kernell cranked the system up to 11 trying to take down a vice presidential candidate of the US... and got burned. You break the law trying to subvert a presidential election and you should get your ass handed to you.

      You might have a point if some criminal stole Sarah Palin's car without knowing who it belonged to then SHE turned the spotlight on him... but that wasn't the case at all. Kernell broke the law in such a way that brought national media attention to it. He has no one to blame but himself for the falling dominoes that he set into motion.

    2. Re:It is all in who the victim is.... by whoop · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What I don't understand from the left side of American politics is how they pick these targets for political "assassination." Obama had substantial lead over McCain in polls and such from the beginning. I could see him winning with little effort, as long as he didn't screw things up himself.

      So then McCain goes for a long shot VP choice, a woman, etc. Sarah wasn't much of a politician herself, some nobody from Alaska honestly. She came out saying your average Republican catch phrases, smaller governement, less taxes, etc. I still didn't see her as helping McCain all that much. Yet, from that moment, the left came out viciously against her, more so than they were against McCain. Who is she? She isn't anybody. Mayor/Governor in Alaska? That's not even a real state. That doesn't count. She doesn't know anything about the "real" America. McCain's old and going to die and she'll be King of the Land. Oh my, we're done fer now if they win. She's stupid too, look, she messed up two words in onne sentence! She's got too many kids. Look at that last one, she can't even breed right. Her daughter's pregnant and unwed, how's that for Republican "values" for ya.

      This cycle, it was just like that with Christine O'Donnell. Again, she had little chance from the beginning. The other guy was ahead by ten or more points much of the time. Yet, the left came right out every day with the same visceral hate. A witch! A witch I tell ya! She's stupid. A duck is stupid. Therefore she's a witch! Then the week before election, they dig up a guy who "slept" with her after one night out at bars one Halloween some years ago. See, she's a slut. She'll sleep with anybody. Republicans and their stupid values. Oh, she only slept at the guy's apartment, no sex? Oh well, she's still a slut!

      Meg Whitman. Well, that one was a little close, within five points at times. Then it's fine if Jerry's wife calls her a whore. She was one after all.

      I think this kid got wound up in this extreme ferver to demonize their opponent to the point that he thinks he'll become a hero finding out Sarah's massive number of secrets that she's discussing with people in her emails. Honestly, what are you going to find? Photos from a family reunion? The secret plans of the Bildeburgers, Illuminati, etc? Still, why not target the actual political enemies for this sort of stuff? McCain, people in much closer elections your side might lose, etc?

  8. Re:As I recall by Pojut · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I gotta say, hacking a high-profile politician's email account (ESPECIALLY when they are running for vice president, which means everything of theirs is being watched 24/7) is a really stupid idea. There's pretty much no way you can get away with that nowadays...

  9. Re:Year and a day? by Moridineas · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or, as the article says, he was sentenced:

    by a judge who recommended that the time be served in a Knoxville, Tenn. halfway house

    A little bit different!!

  10. He should have been a rich banker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Rich banker gets to escape felony hit and run charges, because the judge felt "a felony charge would hurt his ability to make shit tons of money"

    http://dailybail.com/home/outrage-morgan-stanley-banker-escapes-felony-charges-for-hit.html

  11. In Related News by sexconker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In related news, Sarah Palin is still on the loose, endangering all sanity as we know it.

  12. Punishment based on victim, not crime by Andy+Smith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Would he have received the same sentence if he had hacked the email of a random neighbour?

    1. Re:Punishment based on victim, not crime by osgeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Probably not.

      1. When you commit a crime in an attempt to make a presidential election go your way, you bring a lot of media attention to your doorstep. The justice system will usually make sure to prosecute you fully when everyone is watching.

      2. Hacking your neighbor's email affects your neighbor and a few other people. Impacting a presidential election with your unlawful actions affects a nation. Shouldn't the impact of your crime play a role in punishment?

  13. Re:Year and a day? by cduffy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because jails often can only hold people for one year. They give that extra day so he goes to prison instead of jail. ie. it's a worse punishment.

    Actually, no, it's a more lenient sentence -- a year and a day means you're eligible for sentence reductions based on good behavior and the like; any less and you aren't.

  14. Re:Could have been worse by ickleberry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No really how is that different to someone hacking the email of the randomer next door or anyone else?

    After all a candidate is only a candidate and anyone whose email is hacked can have their reputation ruined for the next job interview or anything else.

    If she was an actual vice president you could possibly attach some national security element to this but even that's a stretch, and giving these people extra protection will just promote the idea of government secrecy, big brother "we need to see your communication but you can't see ours" kind of thing. and there is no doubt in my mind she wouldn't fully back any kind of new mass surveillance initiative.

  15. Re:As I recall by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I gotta say, hacking a high-profile politician's email account (ESPECIALLY when they are running for vice president, which means everything of theirs is being watched 24/7) is a really stupid idea. There's pretty much no way you can get away with that nowadays...

    You think that when Sarah Palin became the candidate, that the government started monitoring traffic on her Yahoo account? That's not how this kid was caught, he was caught because he changed the password and posted it online.

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  16. And if it was my email hacked? by Maclir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What punishment would the guilty person get? I'll bet you London to brick it wouldn't even get to court.

    One law for the power elite, and the rest of us can bugger off.

  17. Rich HP Pretexter vs. Poor Student Pretexter by theodp · · Score: 4, Informative

    HP Pretexting Charges Dismissed: "Charges against defendants in the Hewlett-Packard pretexting case have been dismissed."

  18. Re:As I recall by RealGrouchy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It was guessing the answer to her Security Question that was publicly available on the internet. If that's "hacking" then I'm fucking Kevin Mitnick.

    Most people's (snail) mail boxes are unlocked, but it's still mail fraud to go picking through them.

    - RG>

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    Hey pal, this isn't a pleasantforest, so don't waste my time with pleasantries!
  19. Re:As I recall by alen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    might not be hacking, but he still had no business going into her email

  20. Depends on whether the offender obstructs justice by Quila · · Score: 5, Informative

    Note he only got a misdemeanor, a slap on the wrist, for the actual computer fraud.

    The government does not take obstruction of justice lightly and tends to give stiff sentences for it.

    Aside from that, yes, an attack on an account for political gain to influence an election would reasonably bring a more severe punishment than simply doing it to see if you can. This wasn't just some kid. His dad is a powerful Democratic state legislator and was then a member of Obama's Tennessee campaign. I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't doing dad's bidding, and is taking the fall to avoid ruining dad's career. Expect to see the payoff after this clears up, likely a well-paid position in a Democratic campaign in 2012.

    Personally, I think he deserves extra time just for being stupid by using a single proxy that had a policy of turning over evidence of any illegal activity to the police. :)

  21. Re:As I recall by RsG · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thank you, someone else who gets it.

    Crime is not about how hard it was for the perpetrator to commit it. Crime is about intent, or sometimes criminal negligence. "But the door was unlocked" is not, has never been, and should not be a legal defence.

    Now, "intent" itself can sometimes be vague or fuzzy enough to leave room for doubt. You cannot be tried with trespassing on land that a reasonable person would not have known was off limits. And the balance of the law, the concept of innocence until guilt is proven, should favour the accused; if there is reasonable doubt, acquittal should be the outcome.

    But that was not the case here. There was no doubt as to the accused's guilt, both in the crime itself and the attempted cover-up. Political angles aside, this would have been criminal no matter who the victim was, or what the perp's motive.

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  22. Re:As I recall by c6gunner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's pretty much no way you can get away with that nowadays...

    Pure unadulterated nonsense. Drive around town and find an open WiFi access point. Use an internet cafe. Use the TOR network. Hack a couple foreign computers (for some reason, Korea is especially easy), and bounce the connection through them. For best results, combine all of the above. There's pretty much no way you could NOT get away with it, unless you're a complete idiot. Which this guy obviously is since not only did he not bother to cover his tracks while breaking into the account, but he also didn't take any precautions when he released the information. He was just begging to be busted.

  23. Re:As I recall by amicusNYCL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really? The Gawker article in particular has plenty of screenshots showing government correspondence. Do you think an email from another government official title "veep talking points" is personal? What about a draft of a letter to Schwarzenegger about a tax? Is that also personal business? Why use an email account which is not required to be archived for government business? What about the emails asking how to hide communications between each other?

    We both know there's no way of proving intent, but that's a hell of a lot of circumstantial evidence, youthink?

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  24. Re:As I recall by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They probably did - which is sort of ironic, considering the reason for the scandal. The not-a-real-hack revealed that Palin had been using her private Yahoo email account to conduct government business in order to hide from FOIA requests and such accountability.

    Well, using it to get around FOIA requests is a but misleading. It was never proven that was the reason. It could have been the result but the laws on it do not take the result as the reason automagically. It was argued by Palin and staff that it was a messup detailing that the blackberries used had both personal and government emails attached to them and by selecting a contact, it showed the name of the contact not the email address and it was simply a mistake that personal email addresses ended up being used. This was supported by numerous other politicians as well as businesses claiming they have realized the same problems in the past or present.

    Stating the idea that the use was in order to to hide from FOIA requests and such accountability is nothing but speculation and inferred opinion. It could be but all official investigations into it determined that it was an accidental oversight caused by the complexity of having both accounts on the same phones. You may want to believe otherwise, but you shouldn't state your opinion as fact when it is little more then your opinion.