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Wikipedia Could Block 67 Million Verizon Customers

An anonymous reader writes "A particularly nasty Wikipedia vandal has forced a discussion to take place over whether to block edits from an address range used by over 67 million Verizon customers. Verizon has not responded to abusive Wikipedia users on their network before, even though the abusive Verizon users have released private information (phone numbers, etc.) of numerous individuals, and made countless threats that have also been reported to law enforcement. Wikipedia has done something similar in the past with users on the AOL network, which used proxy servers and thus allowed vandals to continue disrupting the site. Discussion is also taking place on alternate solutions to deal with abuse from this Verizon user, named 'Zsfgseg' on Wikipedia. If a block of millions is enacted, Verizon could potentially change how they assign IP addresses, or be forced at least to address a PR nightmare."

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  1. Re:Why would Verizon care? by nmb3000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This seems silly to me... why would Verizon care?

    They shouldn't. That's what makes this such a non-story. The problem is that there are a lot of people ("editors" they call themselves, until they get to level 2 and become an "admin") who take Wikipedia waaay too seriously. Take this gem from TFA:

    Verizon didn't seem to care. -- T. Canens

    Are you kidding me? That idiot wasted hundreds of hours of admins time, spent all his free time libeling people, outer hundreds of Wikipedia editors by mass-creating hundreds of accounts the included their phone numbers (or so I've heard) and they don't care? What is wrong with those people? -- Access Denied

    My biggest problem with Wikipedia is the direct source of stories like this. It's become a little pool and everyone is trying to be the biggest fish, for two reasons: First, that way they can create their own little kingdom of articles which they've "adopted", bullying people into a consensus which matches their own ideals/agenda. Second, they just want to feel important. Take that Access Denied fellow's name/signature thing for example. Bright red, obnoxious, disrupts the page flow, and yells to everyone, "Look at me, look at me!"

    Wikipedia "editors" are such cute little things.

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  2. Net Neutrality, Anyone? by TexVex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Verizon could potentially change how they assign IP addresses, or be forced at least to address a PR nightmare.

    I'm sorry, but this is Wikipedia's issue to deal with, not Verizon's. And, to imply otherwise is just trolling.

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    1. Re:Net Neutrality, Anyone? by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, *Verizon* have a vandal, that is paying Verizon money to vandalise the Wikipedia.

      Often the vandal is breaking multiple laws, and the ISP is enabling them, for money, and refusing to investigate it or even warn the user off.

      It's not an ethically or legally neutral position for Verizon to take, and Verizon have failed to act before with other vandals. It's almost certain that the vandal is breaking Verizon's own terms and conditions as well.

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  3. Misguided Wikipedia Editors by Skellbasher · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not Verizon's responsibility to do anything unless people on their network are breaking laws. Last time I checked, general trolling was not against the law. (If it were, half the internet would be shutdown. :) ) Wikipedia needs to get their act together and secure their own site better. The fact that they're even considering blocking editing from /6s and /8s is absurd.

  4. Re:Why would Verizon care? by Aranykai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Try writing "fuck the police" on the police station with chalk and see if they think its vandalism.

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  5. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by _merlin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Slashdot's moderation system does more to promote groupthink than anything else. Most mods here are +1 agree or -1 disagree.

  6. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by Raenex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It depends on the issue. Many times you'll get viewpoints from both sides modded up. Moderation on Slashdot is far from perfect, but overall it makes the site readable.

  7. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by Carewolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Early modders don't just contribute, they steer the groupthink.

    Which is why you don't mod down. If you find an already modded comment with serious flaws, you find a good response and mod that up instead.