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Wikipedia Could Block 67 Million Verizon Customers

An anonymous reader writes "A particularly nasty Wikipedia vandal has forced a discussion to take place over whether to block edits from an address range used by over 67 million Verizon customers. Verizon has not responded to abusive Wikipedia users on their network before, even though the abusive Verizon users have released private information (phone numbers, etc.) of numerous individuals, and made countless threats that have also been reported to law enforcement. Wikipedia has done something similar in the past with users on the AOL network, which used proxy servers and thus allowed vandals to continue disrupting the site. Discussion is also taking place on alternate solutions to deal with abuse from this Verizon user, named 'Zsfgseg' on Wikipedia. If a block of millions is enacted, Verizon could potentially change how they assign IP addresses, or be forced at least to address a PR nightmare."

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  1. no PR nightmare for wikipedia? by MichaelKristopeit161 · · Score: -1, Troll
    unable to block a user they have claimed to have identified? relying on IP addresses for their bans? although this very internet web site chat message board uses the same measure to attempt to silence its users, the reliance on a "one IP address = one person" myth is ignorantly lazy at best, and uselessly pathetic regardless.

    if you can't enable heuristics to stop vandalism and protect the content which serves as your only product, THEN YOU DON'T BELONG IN THE INDUSTRY.

    1. Re:no PR nightmare for wikipedia? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      the reliance on a "one IP address = one person" myth is ignorantly lazy at best, and uselessly pathetic regardless.

      You are living proof of that.

      if you can't enable heuristics to stop vandalism and protect the content which serves as your only product

      If /. could do that you'd be forgotten before my page could refresh.

    2. Re:no PR nightmare for wikipedia? by MichaelKristopeit125 · · Score: -1, Troll
      uh... the problem is still that wikipedia treated an IP address as a person... and thus implemented a ban of a person with a ban of an IP address.

      the REASON it's a problem is because a person can change their IP address... PEOPLE ARE NOT IP ADDRESSES AND NEVER WILL BE.

      to be more precise, i was EXACTLY correct, said nothing but the truth, and those entrusted to moderate this website have chosen that my submission OF PURE FACT was "troll" and should be hidden from view. moderator: is that you, adolf?

      THE TRUTH = TROLL

      slashdot = stagnated

    3. Re:no PR nightmare for wikipedia? by MichaelKristopeit126 · · Score: -1, Troll
      i can do that. i DO do that. IT IS TRIVIAL

      slashdot is run by moronic marketeers.

      slashdot = stagnated

  2. Re:Misleading title by MichaelKristopeit119 · · Score: -1, Troll
    if there wasn't a lie in the headline, how would i know which site i was on?

    slashdot = stagnated

  3. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    If you weren't a cum dumpster, how would I know you weren't Michael Kristopeit?

    Why do I hide behind an AC account? Because I am stagnated and am completely pathetic.

  4. Re:Misleading title by MichaelKristopeit119 · · Score: -1, Troll
    i AM michael kristopeit.

    ur mum's face weren't a cum dumpster.

    you are NOTHING

  5. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Who the fuck is Michael Kristopeit?

  6. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by MichaelKristopeit122 · · Score: -1, Troll
    wikipedia provides a public internet website intended to be edited by users... a user simply utilized the service as designed, and you believe jail time might be in order?! is that you, adolf? the system wasn't broken, it was used as designed.

    a little jobless time might be in order for the system administrators that designed the broken system.

  7. Don't be such an ass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    hole.

  8. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I already did. Sorry bout that.

  9. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I am a pedophile and I support this post. Normalcy is overrated. You are a good man Mr. Kristopeit.

  10. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    It's cool, I'll take the asshole then.

  11. Re:Misleading title by MichaelKristopeit127 · · Score: -1, Troll
    why do you cower? what are you afraid of?

    you're completely pathetic.

    present yourself to me, and i will kill you.

  12. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by MichaelKristopeit127 · · Score: -1, Troll
    like the impossible hoop of obtaining access to free public wi-fi... if only such a thing existed... if only such a thing existed in almost every square foot of any reasonably sized metropolitan area.......

    WHAT A HOOP#!%*(&!#

    you're an idiot.

  13. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by MichaelKristopeit127 · · Score: -1, Troll
    you're presumptuous and judgmental.

    the system was provided, the system was used as provided.

    if the designers of the system no longer wish to allow the system to be used, they can certainly stop offering the service.

    the intent of the designers is irrelevant... only the potential of the product they provide matters.

    you're an idiot. there's a big difference between idiots and morons, and you're both.

  14. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    I AM you.

  15. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 0, Troll

    "A young man was continually posting offensive messages and generally being a little prick. The board's operator's tracked him down and spoke to his father, and I remember Ward Christensen commenting that "we know now where Mr. Scopes gets his evil ways." I don't remember how it turned out or what they did, but Mr. Scopes' posts abruptly stopped."

    I find it disturbing that they actually tracked someone down merely for posting offensive content on the internet. I mean, really, how oversensitive do you have to be to go to that extreme? That's probably why they were targets in the first place.

    "There are always children (or adults with childlike mentalities)"

    "My hobby is better than yours!"

    "The problem with the Internet is that it allows such people to cause a much greater degree of harm than, say, a teenager with a can of spraypaint, as similar as the mindset may be."

    If someone seriously gets 'hurt' by reading a message on the internet that they find offensive (which is highly subjective), then they should not only stop using the internet altogether, but they should also constantly plug their ears when in the presence of others, as they may utter something that they find offensive. This isn't a problem with the internet, this is a problem with oversensitive, weak-minded fools.

    --
    Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
  16. Re:Misguided Wikipedia Editors by Christian+Marks · · Score: -1, Troll

    The fact that they're even considering blocking editing from /6s and /8s is absurd.

    This is the logical progression now that they find that blocking /19s just doesn't make them feel sufficiently powerful.
    My own Verizon IP address was caught in a ban of 8190 host addresses. My appeal to lift the block, at least for my address--was denied--they have no mechanism for identifying users and for distinguishing legitimate users from vandals. I have come to the conclusion that if Wikipedia cannot solve the technical problem of user authentication and identification or adapt someone else's approach, then its admins should be encouraged to block editing from /0.

  17. And... by fahrbot-bot · · Score: -1, Troll

    ...block edits from an address range used by over 67 million Verizon customers.

    ...nothing of value will be lost. Seriously, it's Wikipedia.

    --
    It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
  18. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by MichaelKristopeit178 · · Score: -1, Troll
    i didn't imagine a break... i don't imagine a break... I UNDERSTAND ANONYMITY. i also understand that a physical location does not identify an individual.

    you're an idiot.

    why do you cower? what are you afraid of?

    you're completely pathetic.

  19. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    God are you Wikinutters annoying. You are not only a MORON, you're a sad MORON. Get out of your mom's basement. Get laid. Get a life.

  20. Re:Misleading title by MichaelKristopeit179 · · Score: -1, Troll

    you are NOTHING

  21. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    why you mad though?

  22. Re:Misleading title by MichaelKristopeit179 · · Score: -1, Troll
    do you feel mad? do you feel that i'm mad? that is very telling.

    it doesn't anger me that you're a pathetic idiot... it's a simple and obvious observation.

    you're completely pathetic.

  23. Re:You're slowing down, Slashdot! by MichaelKristopeit178 · · Score: -1, Troll
    you haven't heard?

    slashdot = stagnated.

  24. Re:Wikipedia brings this on itself by mug+funky · · Score: 0, Troll

    how many times can you say the same thing?

    butthurt much?

  25. Re:Misleading title by Zsfgseg · · Score: -1, Troll

    Zsfgseg here,

    Just wanted to remind you kids to stay in school, and leave the trolling to the professionals!

    I've got to go now though, Rachael Kristopeit is begging for some more of my giant troll cock.

  26. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by MichaelKristopeit178 · · Score: -1, Troll
    ur mum's face took a wicked michael david kristopeit earlier today.

    why do you cower? what are you afraid of?

    you're completely pathetic.

  27. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    ScrewMaster, stop being such a miserable shit

  28. Re:Misleading title by MichaelKristopeit179 · · Score: -1, Troll
    rachael kristopeit doesn't exist, moron.

    i'm assuming your giant troll cock doesn't either.

    you're completely pathetic.

  29. Re:Misleading title by MichaelKristopeit179 · · Score: -1, Troll
    i am michael kristopeit. i don't cower in the shadows with you and the feebs.

    why do you cower? what are you afraid of? you're completely pathetic.

  30. Re:Misleading title by MichaelKristopeit178 · · Score: -1, Troll
    you're an idiot. who gave the idiot an account?

    I AM MICHAEL KRISTOPEIT.

  31. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    u mad.

  32. Re:Wikipedia has Been Trolled by Berkyjay · · Score: 0, Troll

    So says the Anonymous Coward.

  33. Re:New Verizon Wikipedia Page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    What did the vandal say? That link is tl;dr

  34. Re:Misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    No, you are not.

  35. Re:Seriously? Why not force registration by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    ScrewMaster, stop being such a miserable shit

    ScrewMaster rocks. Get bent.