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Comparing Windows and Ubuntu On Netbooks

Barence writes "With the arrival last month of Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook Edition, PC Pro has revisited a familiar question: which operating system is best for a netbook?. The magazine has run a series of benchmarks on a Asus Eee PC 1008HA running Windows XP Home, two versions of Windows 7 (with and without Aero switched on) and Ubuntu Netbook Edition. The operating systems are tested for start-up performance, Flash handling and video, among other tests. The results are closer than you might think."

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  1. Re:OS X on MacBook Air by Darkness404 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thats because a Mac Book Air A) Isn't cheap and B) Has specs that aren't bottom-end. The Air is simply a light laptop, not a cheap laptop.

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  2. Eh? by ledow · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The way I read the graphs is: XP and Ubuntu win on almost everything (Ubuntu loses once on Flash on iPlayer but that's hardly surprising), maybe only by a small margin by they do, and Windows 7 takes twice as long to boot as they do. The article doesn't recommend bothering to upgrade to Windows 7 if you already have XP on it, and suggests that Ubuntu would be just as good.

    Now, let's look at *value*: Assuming you can get them all for the same price, they all provide roughly equal value (it could be argued that 7 is worse value but only by a small way). However, if you have to pay *any* extra for XP or 7, then you're just as well off with Ubuntu. So, it's all back to the old question: who wants to sell me a netbook with an operating system that's just as good as the others but which is FREE for life? In the early days, that's how netbooks became so cheap and so popular - I know, I worked with the original EEEPC's because a school could afford them but MS wanted about £50 a license to "upgrade" them to XP. Now it seems either Microsoft are giving people Windows for free, or Microsoft are stopping manufacturers from supplying netbooks with only Linux on them. I vote for the latter given previous history.

    All this article confirms is that, basically, all the OS's are roughly the same now. A bar chart here or there but on average there is no winner. Thus, the free ones should represent infinitely better value. Strange how the manufacturers don't reflect that in their pricing / OS availability any more.

  3. Re:Not very fair testing... by DWMorse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You're right, the testing wasn't fair at all. It was on usability. These things are not equal.

    It wasn't supposed to be fair. It was supposed to see how close general equivalents perform, in a real world scenario, for the casual user. It's not perfect comparison because, as you indicated, that'd be impossible, and as I'm indicating, that's not the point.

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  4. Re:why would one use a netbook? by Kjella · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, I can only answer this for myself. I have a desktop at home, which for all sorts of reasons (CPU, GPU, memory, dual monitors, full size keyboard+++) is where I like to do anything serious. When I want to go mobile, I want something small, light and cheap I can bring almost everywhere. I'm not a road warrior, so I don't need a powerful laptop. I'm not hauling it from site to site so I don't need a desktop replacement - I did have one of those as a consultant though. I just need a real computer to go and the 10" screen, cramped keyboard and anemic performance are acceptable tradeoffs.

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  5. Re:OS X on MacBook Air by Sockatume · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually a netbook is broadly understood to be a cheap low-performance computer for a limited set of common computing tasks, inaugurated by the Eee PC which was explicitly a commercialised equivalent of the OLPC's "cheap but useful" approach to hardware design.

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  6. Re:OS X on MacBook Air by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not true. The reason why a netbook is called a NETbook is because it's designed to be a cheap and mobile interface to a network (such as the Internet) similar in concept to a thin-client. Cheap being the key word.

    A notebook is a small laptop, a netbook is an inexpensive notebook.

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  7. I recognize the mathematician's answer by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Can you even buy a netbook without windows?

    Yes. Next question?

    Ahh, the mathematician's answer. The next question is as follows: Which make and model and which seller do you recommend?

  8. Re:Can you even buy a netbook without windows? by tepples · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When netbooks were new, they all had linux - largely because they were low-spec enough that even XP wouldn't run, back in the pre-atom days.

    Windows XP runs fine on a PII 866 with 384 MB of RAM, made in 2000. My Eee PC 900 (on which I ran Ubuntu) had a Celeron 900 with 512 MB of RAM. Add a competent SSD to that, and in my experience, it isn't too much slower than the early Atom CPUs.

    Many (including me) suspect that Microsoft is making OEM licences for netbooks available at a next-to-free discount in order to prevent linux becoming established

    This is in fact the explicit purpose of Windows XP for ULCPCs and Windows 7 Starter.

  9. Speed benchmarks are all very well and good... by Mouldy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...but TFA fails to mention anything to do with user experience. How are well suited is the OS to small screen real estate?

    For example, On Ubuntu, ccsm, doesn't fit on the screen (Image). Little like things like that crop up often with Ubuntu and it's really annoying.

    I've no idea of Windows has similar issues because I don't have it installed, so perhaps somebody else will comment.

  10. Re:Can you even buy a netbook without windows? by somersault · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Not being ignorant is not the same thing as being smart. There are many ignorant smart people, and many well educated idiots..

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  11. Re:Can you even buy a netbook without windows? by hedwards · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it's more that MS started leaning on the manufacturers to discontinue it and started to charge them royalties for their IP whether they used Windows or not.

    A genuine Netbook shouldn't be running Windows, it should use a specialty OS that's more appropriate for the form factor. And not just a neutered version either.

  12. Re:Can you even buy a netbook without windows? by ottothecow · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Yeah but do they come with some magic version of linux flash that is not terrible?

    I have atom based machines that can play 1080p video without a hiccup but try to make a 320p youtube video full screen and watch it stutter and spurt...

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  13. Re:Can you even buy a netbook without windows? by HermMunster · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I run flash on many a linux desktop and the performance is fine. Full screen and windowed, and in HD. I read the article and they really were just playing games. There was no real analysis done. Launching programs? Boot up? That's not a measure of the full OS. I took it with a grain of salt, as they just want web hits for advertising.

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