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Swedish Man Fined For Posting Links To Online Video Feeds
hcs_$reboot writes with a snippet from TechDirt (citing TorrentFreak): "Over in Sweden, it appears that a guy has been fined for linking to an online broadcast of a hockey game. We've heard stories of people getting in trouble merely for linking to unauthorized content, but this story is even more ridiculous. The guy wasn't linking to unauthorized content. He was linking to an online video feed from the official broadcaster, Canal Plus. The issue was that Canal Plus was apparently technically incompetent in how they set up the feeds, and never intended to make the feeds public."
Some even ask you to pay to view their public content, or else they will sue. http://news.slashdot.org/news/10/10/27/2134236.shtml
No.
If they linked it from their front page, and said "View the game here", that's implicitly authorising access. If it was hidden behind a badly done pay wall, I think it fairly clearly implies you should be paying first, even if the technical side is a debacle.
Leaving something unprotected is no more implying access than leaving your front door open. It's bloody stupid, but that's another matter entirely...
I guess the whole Pirate Bay issue introduced them to the wonderful world of corporate bribery.
We got a suitable saying around here, along the lines of: once your reputation is ruined, you might as well lose all restraint.
The Swedish government gets a few tips on how to take them down,
Yeah, good thing TPB got taken down and has been offline for years... oh wait
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
If it was hidden behind a badly done pay wall, I think it fairly clearly implies you should be paying first, even if the technical side is a debacle.... leaving something unprotected is no more implying access than leaving your front door open. It's bloody stupid, but that's another matter entirely...
Anything on the internet that is reachable without security is public by definition. Doesn't matter if it was also 'behind' a paywall; it it could be reached by a straightforward url without going through the paywall, then it was public. And it is a false analogy to compare it to the front door of a private house; it was a business website that invited access, even if it only wanted paying access. Using the locked door analogy, it is as if a pay to view facility (a cinema or museum say) had a pay counter on one street door, but left another open.
The thing is, in the real world, you can expect to have the protection of the law even for objects that are out in the open. This does not translate very well to the net, where "the only laws are assembler and RFCs.", but in theory the same things should apply, right? There's also the power discrepancy. Many people here might fail to realize that they're actually wielding a fair bit of power over something that seems *utterly* arbitary and incomprehensible to normal people. "But why should we take the fall for ignorants?" Because this is Sweden, not the US - individual freedom isn't valued as much here. At least not as much as justice and social harmony. Intruding on someone else is a big no-no. Also, what keeps you relatively safe both from poverty and crime as well as tripping over beggars in the streets and having to actually get personally involved in things is the system. There is thus a common concern over the system working as correctly as possible to insure the best of all possible worlds, and government is generally seen as desireable. This is weighed out somewhat I believe by the fact that Swedish culture (and for that matter all the scanidavian cultures) is extremely simplistic bordering on the barbaric - the natural impulses of most men acting against it is difficult. The nail that sticks up isn't really hammered down. Not really - it gets a reasonable paycheck, some reasonable psych treatment, buys some reasonable german beer from the reasonable systembolaget, walks home through the reasonable grey streets to his reasonable apartment, has reasonable boredom sex, watches some films involving torture, yelling and misery to check if he can still feel, and then falls into merciful deathlike dreamless sleep. Little does he know that in a more lively society he had been mugged on his way home - but in this land of heaven, just as he was about to lunge out, the mugger felt a bleak wave move up through his body culminating as tears pouring down his eyes. He thinks back to his early days in his warm home, watching the epic childrens show "vilse i pannkakan". Have I turned into Storpotäten, he thinks? A bright luminous light surrounds him, and as his eyes turn skyward whom else does he see but Death himself, bidding him to come beyond the stars to the forested lands of Nangijala, where there is still the time of campfires and fairy tales. Even as his withered body slumps to the ground, his spirit runs in the sunlight across the grass fields grazed by cows, across a hill topped by birchen trees, and out of our sight.
And now you are melancholy.
Emotions! In your brain!
You do realize Sweden used to do forced sterilization of retards and undesireables here up to the late 1950s? It was only formally abolished in 1975[...] All to create a pure society, free from weakness.
Of course, the funny thing about that?
It largely worked - They have one of the happiest, healthiest, most attractive nations on the frickin' planet (the present fallout of US bullying notwithstanding).
When trying to make eugenics look like a monstrosity, you'd do better not to point out its successes.
It's not the laws that are flawed, it's our judges in the courts.
A good lawyer can tweak any country's law to prove anything, it's the judges role to keep em in control.
The Swedish judges have over the last year broken the constitution over and over and over, and no one care.
It has gone so far that yes I do think they are bribed. Either with money or power (fast track to higher positions).
But the worst thing is that no one (almost no one) cares. If I tell people that the judges break the constitution they don't react at all. Nothing. Blank.
If that is from lack of interest or knowledge I don't know, but I guess both.
We in Sweden are so used to get fucked by the authorities now days that it looks like we have just given up.
I used to say that not for anything in the world I would live in the USA because money can buy anything, and now Sweden has become a puppet to the states. It's time to migrate to Norway (our brother country that are not as corrupt, yet).
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
If your "house" is a website on the net, and the stuff they "took" is still there when they are done, than it absolutely should be expected. For some reason when I "break in" and "take stuff" from millions of other websites, they don't even notice or care (save that they encourage it in most cases.)
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
Your biggest error is in not recognizing that your analogy isn't even close to appropriate. My error was trying to use your phenomenally broken analogy to help you see that. Welcome to the Internet. It is completely different than meatspace (e.g. an unlocked door absolutely does mean access is granted.)
Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
It's better than that. It's like asking for some photocopies, and the dude with power of attorney says "sure, just let me copy them real quick, here you go! Now, remember, it's all copyrighted unless I say otherwise, but tell your friends to ask me if they want a copy!"
I don't really want to defend this, but it brought up another situation in my mind that seems similar.
Lets say there is a concert at on private property. There is a gate where tickets are sold for entry. They have a barbed wire fence around the area to keep non paying people from entering, but a section has fallen over. Would it be illegal to guide people though the hole in the fence to watch the concert without paying?