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TSA Saw My Junk, Missed Razor Blades, Says Adam Savage

An anonymous reader writes "The TSA isn't the most respected of governmental agencies right now, but at least it comes by the poor reputation honestly. The lack of standards, inconsistent application of searches and policies, and occasional rude agent all combine to make flying an unpleasant experience. It's often derided as 'security theater,' which describes the experience of Mythbuster Adam Savage before a recent flight. Savage was put through the full-body scanner, and while he joked that it made his penis feel small, no one seemed to notice the items he was carrying on his person. The video tells the rest of the story."

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  1. Re:Question by blackraven14250 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've seen videos of the new scanning procedure where people got scanned, turn 90 degrees, and got scanned again.

  2. Wasn't too recent - May. by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 4, Informative

    It was at w00tstock in Seattle. That was in May.

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  3. winning the war on toursim by Presto+Vivace · · Score: 2, Informative

    maybe some day we can go back to probably cause.

  4. Re:The "enhanced" procedures are useless by OrangeTide · · Score: 2, Informative

    straitjackets for all passengers.

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  5. Uhhh??? Why is no one noticing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why is no one noticing that this video and a lot of sources being reported in the news are previous events that happened 6+ months ago????

  6. Re:TSA Security Theater by Dayze!Confused · · Score: 2, Informative

    I flew on an international flight and transfered in LA to go to PDX. When I got home, I opened up my carry on bag and found a box cutter sitting in the front pouch. So much for security.

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  7. TSA - A Good Idea (At First) by careysub · · Score: 2, Informative

    Replacing hourly wage untrained rent-a-cops at security checkpoints, with employed professionals with actual management, was a good idea. Before 9/11 airport security was designed to be cheap and not impede the paying passengers. Having training, standards, etc. was a real step up.

    Then things began going horribly, horribly wrong.

    It is fundamentally impossible to keep every conceivable bomb or potential "weapon" off every plane. There are already gaping security holes (unscreened cargo from abroad, all those goods brought in for sale at the little airport shops, etc., etc.) that are completely unaddressed. Body cavity bombs have already been used and the naked videos and grope sessions won't detect them.

    We need someone with some sense running this show. Instead we have Michael Cherthoff.

    Did you see this story from the beginning of the year: http://www.infowars.com/chertoff-linked-to-body-scanner-manufacturer/ ? Cherthoff, while serving as a key government official, also runs a private consulting company one of whose clients is - the body scanner manufacturer.

    Again we see the government being used as a means to stuff the pockets of well-connected, while your tax sollars are sued to physically abuse you for no benefit.

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  8. Re:And let's just clarify a few things. by orangepeel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ridiculous?

    Air marshal leaves plane after dropping bullets

    Passenger Finds Loaded Ammunition Clip on Southwest Flight

    US air marshal leaves gun in airport restroom

    Air Marshal Causes International Incident

    Air Marshal Accused of Rape at Gunpoint

    Marshals Fight Battle in Air and on Ground

    From that last article:

    "How would you describe the management in the air marshal service?" CBS News chief investigative correspondent Armen Keteyian asked a current air marshal.

    "Sexist, racist, homophobic, anti-disabled vet group, grossly incompetent," said the marshal, whose identity was concealed. "That's the general consensus among air marshals."

    Nearly two dozen current or former marshals have told CBS News the agency is dominated by an "old boys club" of white, male supervisors -- mainly ex-secret service agents who, they allege, routinely discriminate, intimidate and retaliate against employees who question their actions or authority.

    "This behavior has just spread like a cancer and it's out of control," the marshal said.


    Well ... it sounds like you called it right: ridiculous.

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  9. Re:The "enhanced" procedures are useless by Martin+Blank · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was 2002. In that case, a lone gunman tried to shoot up the El Al ticket line, killing two and wounding four more, but was himself shot dead by El Al security.

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  10. Re:TSA Security Theater by flyingkillerrobots · · Score: 5, Informative

    El-Al (Israel) gives knives to everyone, not just first class. They've been making fun of the other airlines about it for years. If everybody has knives, then a terrorist with a knife is no more dangerous than he'd be on the ground, assuming the knife cannot be used to somehow quickly down the plane.

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  11. Re:The "enhanced" procedures are useless by Kral_Blbec · · Score: 4, Informative

    Ummm, right wingers aren't any more over it than left, and I have never heard any "right-winger" claim that it was obama's fault. In fact, beck has even gone out of his way to expressly state that he doesn't blame obama for it.
    The idea behind a TSA isn't bad, its the execution and the continiously expanding sphere of influence that is.

  12. Re:TSA Security Theater by ThunderBird89 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, Adam's friends tested this: the signals, especially the 900MHz band, did interfere with unshielded electronics, but modern planes are mostly shielded. Thus, this limitation is being lifted in Europe.

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  13. Re:TSA Security Theater by niftydude · · Score: 2, Informative

    Not just duty free - but the economic well being of all airport stores.
    I once had a pair of tweezers confiscated from me for a domestic flight.
    Passed through security, walked into the airport newsagency, and was able to buy a new pair within 5 minutes.

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  14. Re:TSA Security Theater by nospam007 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The scanner only detects (sharp) edges.
    Adam had his blades in a round container, you can put anything in round non-metallic containers and the scanner won't see it.

  15. Re:TSA Security Theater by The+Bender · · Score: 2, Informative

    Funny. I count 88 ElAl flights today either arriving at or departing from Ben Gurion Airport. http://www.iaa.gov.il/Rashat/en-US/Airports/BenGurion/InformationforTravelers/OnlineFlights.htm

  16. Re:The "enhanced" procedures are useless by yariv · · Score: 2, Informative

    Such attacks happened in Israel, I specifically remember this one. It is, however, significantly less effective then taking down a plane. Also, you can still find large crowds outside checkpoints in Israel (not in the airport, but in Tel Aviv's central bus station, for example).

  17. Re:A 1960's chemistry book is more dangerous by TapeCutter · · Score: 2, Informative

    If your willing to die you don't need to be McGyver to bring down a plane - stick a rag into your bottle of duty free spirits, light it, and throw it at the cockpit door.

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