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Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC

Canadian_Daemon writes "A phase of matter created moments after the Big Bang is thought to have been detected at the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland. 'Striking' evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians, at the facility near Geneva, the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) announced Friday."

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  1. As a Canadian, I like to watch... by thomasdz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What a strange thing to say: "observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians"
    Does this mean the Canadians aren't team players or they weren't researchers (were they just tourists?)
    This Canadian wants to know!

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    1. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by MachDelta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course we're skeptics! Every year we hear about this crazy bastard flying around in a sleigh all night. Any sane Canuck knows that, during winter, you get your shit done during the two and a half hours of daylight in the afternoon. After that you stay the hell inside because its fucking cold! We just wanna meet the guy so we can tell him he's got everything ass backwards. He must be an American. ;)

    2. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by JamesP · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm thinking that except if they actually injected Canadians into the LHC pipes and then collided them at high speed, this whole Canadian bias of the news is unjustified.

      IT'S A CANADIAN CONSPIRACY

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    3. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

      Canadians tend to be skeptics.

      Oh, I don't know about that.

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    4. Re:As a Canadian, I like to watch... by Sulphur · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think the comment was simply to emphasize the canadian angle as it was reported on CBC.

      Not obtuse or acute, its just right.

  2. Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm glad the OP mentioned that Canadians had a hand in this. Otherwise I would have assumed they didn't.

    1. Re:Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yeah, that was really important. I would not have been able to even make sense of what was discovered in that Swiss/French collider without the information about the Canadian input. It wasn't just a quark-gluon plasma; it was a quark-gluon plasma that Canadians had something to do with! That's totally more revolutionary!

    2. Re:Quark-Gluon Plasma Observed At LHC by IrquiM · · Score: 2, Funny

      You can't make a Gluon without a Canadian This is why all have failed previously!

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  3. Re:Quark Glue-ons by phrostie · · Score: 3, Funny

    +1 funny

  4. Eh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Canadian observes quark-gluon plasma, then immediately apologizes.

  5. Including Canadians, and... by chebucto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a canuck and would be happy to celebrate a discovery by my compatriots, but it doesn't make much sense to say the team that made this ion-shattering discovery 'included canadians' when it included a lot of other nationalities too.

    From TFA:

    Canadians make up more than 150 of the researchers involved in ATLAS.

    From Wiki:

    The project is led by Fabiola Gianotti and involves roughly 2,000 scientists and engineers at 165 institutions in 35 countries.

    So.. how about we say 'Horray for people!' or something like that.

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    1. Re:Including Canadians, and... by jamesh · · Score: 2, Funny

      No I think it's reasonable to point it out explicitly. If they had just said "Observed by a team of researchers", you would fairly quickly assume that there wouldn't be any Canadians in that team, for obvious reasons.

      Just like if a blind guy had ascended Mount Everest, the news article would read "A team of mountaineers, including a blind guy, ...".

    2. Re:Including Canadians, and... by circletimessquare · · Score: 2, Informative

      1. Quark gluon plasmas are rare in Switzerland
      2. Canadians are rare in Switzerland

      3. Therefore, anything related to quark gluon plasmas is intrinsically Canadian in nature

      this is all perfectly logical

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  6. Quark-Gluon Plasma? by TrisexualPuppy · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have seen this quark-gluon plasma one other time. My, it has been a while. I never thought I'd see a resonance cascade, let alone create one. But there, at that point, we did it. At Black Mesa. We...unleashed...Gordon, you're alive! Thank God for that hazard suit. I'm afraid to move him and all our phones are out. Please get to the surface as soon as you can and let someone know we're stranded down here. You'll need me to access the retinal scanners. I'm sure the rest of the science team will gladly he$EOF

  7. Flag should be a white cross on a red background by crovira · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why there's a red maple leaf there is beyond me.

    I'm a Canadian and like to toot our own horn but this was done by an international consortium in Geneva.

    C'mon guys. Get the story straight.

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  8. Thanks by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 5, Informative

    Thanks, but it is actually an international effort with those of us in Canada working on ATLAS making up ~5% of the collaboration. For those with a more technical mind there is the actual paper which was accepted by PRL this morning (after being submitted yesterday!). To give you an idea of what the events actually look like you can go here. As you can see there are around 1,000 tracks in a typical event!

    1. Re:Thanks by ieatcookies · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nice work, hosers!

    2. Re:Thanks by Luyseyal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now if they would issue 64-bit jobs for Linux hosts on LHC@Home, I would totally help!

      -l /Still registered, haven't seen a work unit in YEARS

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    3. Re:Thanks by Heed00 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Take off!

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    4. Re:Thanks by Heed00 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I was wondering why the submitter included the part "including Canadians". What was that supposed to mean? Why was it there? Like, it's in Europe but someone from America was there too! Moronic submitter.

      Actually, its from the article source which is the CBC -- Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. It's just the local news agency pointing out that locals were involved in the experiment.

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    5. Re:Thanks by sznupi · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not exactly, I get (however small) new work units semi-regularly. Possibly in every month of this year there was something.

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    6. Re:Thanks by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2, Informative

      Now if they would issue 64-bit jobs for Linux hosts on LHC@Home, I would totally help!

      Actually you would probably not want to help for long! Analyzing data from an experiment is I/O intensive as well as CPU intensive plus the executables are very large and require ~2GB/core to run so they are not really a suitable scale for an @home project unfortunately.

    7. Re:Thanks by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yawn.. and I say thanks as an American taxpayer that RHIC was first

      It's true that RHIC came before the LHC but the SPS and ISR came well before RHIC and none of these have really produced compelling evidence of a QGP. However don't worry - as an American taxpayer you also helped pay for the LHC, so thanks!

  9. It Must Be Pointed Out by soloport · · Score: 2, Funny

    More than three thousand died in the Twin Tower collapse that occurred 2001-11-9, including Canadians.
    Hundreds of thousands converged in South Africa for the World Cup opening ceremonies, including Canadians.
    Overwhelming amounts of aid have poured in to Haiti from around the globe, including Canadians.
    'Striking' evidence of a quark-gluon plasma has been observed by a team of researchers, including Canadians.

  10. second city attitude. by mevets · · Score: 2, Funny

    It is so sad. It is a place of contrasts, the sally-fields-like desperation for acknowledgement against the smugness of not being Americans (even though nobody else can tell).

  11. RHIC by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 3, Informative

    all the Candian jokes are nice and all.. but this really was about trying to make people think CERN is the only thing going on in HEP or nuclear physics. Not so, and this is not a first as RHIC was there first. Glad to see CERN is catching up though.

    1. Re:RHIC by hardwarefreak · · Score: 2, Interesting

      all the Candian jokes are nice and all.. but this really was about trying to make people think CERN is the only thing going on in HEP or nuclear physics. Not so, and this is not a first as RHIC was there first. Glad to see CERN is catching up though.

      I thought the big deal with the LHC is that it was supposed to give us the Higgs Boson, as no other collider on earth was powerful enough to create the Higgs. Enough about this QGP junk. Where's our Higgs Boson?

  12. Re:Offensive by wierd_w · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I don't see why this is modded flamebait-- Offtopic would be more appropriate, since the main subject line really is true. Either both sexes are treated interchangeably in all circumstances, or they are not being treated equal. "Separate but equal" is nonsense in this respect. If there is a draft, it should apply to everyone, not just males-- etc.

    Granted, it could have been put forward in a more polite fashion, but the basic gist of it is true. (And any arguments about women being physically weaker than men must come from people who have never met a determined woman before, nor seen what the average man looks like these days.) The really real problem is that women want to be (and be treated as) feminine. Standing up and "manning up" for equal treatment is seen as being "butch", rather than "practical", and as such they just don't do that. Instead, they whine and moan, but never actually do anything for it.

    Hence the "I want my cake and eat it too-ism" snark.

    The ORIGINAL feminists I have respect for- (The ones that dared to smoke cigars in public like men, wore trousers, cut off their hair, and all that jazz) But the "I can do anything a man can, but I dont want to!" crowd wearing miniskirts, prada, and are going for a boob job to play the hot-chick card, I don't have ANY respect for.

    The hitting jab cuts straight through all the candy coating-- Men hit each other. Women hit each other. (It DOES happen.) But somehow, it is "unforgivably" wrong when a man hits a woman, but not when a woman hits a man. That's the problem the OP is getting at, and I agree. If we are going to treat the sexes as equals, then they should both be equally strikeable for strikeable offenses. (EG, did they hit you? If so, you should be justified to hit back, if for no other reason than to reinforce that you wont tolerate being hit. If you are weaker than them, hit them with a stick. If you are going to play the "Hitting is wrong period" card, then you should stick to those guns, and you should say that two men hitting each other, two women hitting each other, and a woman hitting a man are all EQUALLY as bad as a man hitting a woman is, and Not try to spin some yarn about how it is so much worse when a man hits a woman, because the woman is automatically some frail, flimsy thing. Something that may well not be true. Women are WAY more durable and stronger than western culture gives them credit for, and they should be proud of that.)

    So, again, "off-topic", but not flamebait.

  13. Re:Offensive by Black+Gold+Alchemist · · Score: 3, Funny

    "This experimental setup was so simple, that your grandmother could understand it."

    Two choices, pick one or both:
    This experimental setup was so simple, even the president could understand it.
    This experimental setup was so simple, even the former president could understand it.


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  14. Re:Am I missing something? by mrxak · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Amazing what two little words can do to the comments section of slashdot. My guess is nobody actually RTFA, and everyone was too busy cracking jokes about the summary to care.

  15. Practical usage? by jolyonr · · Score: 2, Funny

    So, when will I be able to buy a Quark-Gluon Plasma TV?

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  16. List of authors by DavMz · · Score: 2, Funny

    The list of authors is longer than the paper itself. And it's in alphabetical order. At least, there surely is no fight as to know who will be first author. ^^

  17. Re:Am I missing something? by slackbheep · · Score: 2, Informative

    As a Canadian I'd like to point out something you may not yet be privy to: The CBC is awful. Also, Canada has content broadcasting restrictions, requiring X% of broadcast content to be "Canadian", it's always been a kinda goofy requirement, and I wouldn't be shocked to find out that mentions of Canadian contributions to worldwide projects are included in their quota. :P Either way, ridiculous indeed.