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KDE 4.6 Beta 1 – a First Look

dmbkiwi writes "The first beta release of KDE SC 4.6 was released yesterday. OpenSUSE had packages up almost immediately, so being curious as to what's new, I've downloaded and upgraded to the new release. These are my impressions thus far."

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  1. Re:GNOME keeps falling further and further behind. by TheLink · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They seem to be planning changes. But I don't like their plans:

    http://www.deansas.org/blog/2009/09/24/first-impressions-of-gnome-shell/

    One of the main changes to my mind is that it does not have a window list on a panel. You switch applications by visiting the Activity "overlay" and then clicking on the window you wish to switch to. This doesn't really affect me much in practise, I usually use alt+tab to switch windows anyway, where it does affect me is for applications that change the window title, e.g. messenger or gmail, I now have to cycle through alt+tab to check for people replying to me etc.

    Rather than a window list the panel now lists the name of the currently focused application. It seems a bit useless, most applications have the application name as part of the window list and I'm not likely to forget the name of an application I've started.

    http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2010-November/msg00030.html

    Just wanted to share a personal experience with GNOME Shell. One of its new and unique attributes is not having the window list or any sort of persistent widget that shows running apps or opened windows. This has benefits, in theory, like helping the user focus on the foreground task.

    It's just worth noting that one of its potential downsides is it violates the user's mental model, which makes it undesirable, even if it *may* help increase productivity. With a window list, it's clear to the user where the window goes when it's minimized and how to show it again. In GNOME Shell, the only clear way to tell if a window is minimized is to check if it can't be seen in the workspace, but it's shown in the Overview or Window Switcher (alt+tab). Teling which windows are minimized or not may not have real benefits, but it may be too disorienting for users.

    Personally I think they've lost their marbles. How does that help productivity at all? Especially in the cases where you need to use more than one window to do your work?

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  2. Re:GNOME keeps falling further and further behind. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The killer feature for me -- seriously, the reason I use KDE rather than Gnome -- is the ability to make the panel vertical. It's the only reasonable way to work on a widescreen netbook.

    (Yeah, Gnome kinda has vertical panels as long as you don't mind them looking horrible and lots of things breaking. No, I do not want to read sideways text, Gnome. And when I looked at some "make vertical panels work properly" bugs, the basic message from Gnome devs was "we don't use vertical panels, go fuck yourself".)

  3. Re:4.x KDE releases failed to impress me by Teun · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Neither am I a n00b.

    And that's exactly what pisses me off in Gnome, there is so little to configure, except for a theme you more or less have to accept what the developers gave you.

    But the people who's private computers I keep running are quite happy with the configurability of KDE, the standard set up is OK and some of them get quite adventurous once they understand the power of the right-click.
    They have mainly older single processor machines with a max. of 1GB RAM and even then it is a beautiful and responsive desktop without the weaknesses of Windows.

    More than once visitors who saw some of the options I showed them (especially in Dolphin) asked how to enable them in Windows 7 :)

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