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Microsoft Ups Online War, Says Google's 'Failing'

CWmike writes "Raising the stakes in its war of words, Microsoft said on Tuesday that Google simply doesn't understand what businesses need, and is failing at pushing its way into the enterprise. In this edited version of his interview with Computerworld, Microsoft's senior director of Online Services, Tom Rizzo, talks about Google's privacy issues, scanning user data, the difference between consumer and corporate needs, and his doubts about Google surviving in the enterprise space. He also said he thinks Google will be shocked to see Microsoft's momentum into the enterprise cloud sector."

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  1. meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    when your shit stinks, focus attention on someone else.

  2. Succesful troll is failing by geegel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Given the market share that Google has in contextual advertising, I tend to disagree with Microsoft's conclusion. Of course I could be wrong, but I highly doubt it.

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  3. Momentum isn't everything by Amorymeltzer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He also said he thinks Google will be shocked to see Microsoft's momentum into the enterprise cloud sector.

    Maybe, but that's ignoring the already massive size of Google in "the cloud." The only thing better than being about to unleash a can of whoop-ass is to be currently whooping ass.

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  4. Huh? by mprinkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What enterprise momentum in the cloud sector? What CIO is seriously going to shunt critical infrastructure into some cloud environment? Seriously? Who? Backups...maybe? Personal photos and email? Of course. But, trade secrets? Human Resources info? Salaries and performance evaluations? To the cloud? Really?

  5. Microsoft lecturing anyone on privacy by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really?

    Google wants all my data. They make no effort at hiding that intent. But I do trust they aren't handing my data over. Microsoft has a specific patent on how to sell my private data, and has handed my private data over the government.

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    1. Re:Microsoft lecturing anyone on privacy by Enderandrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There are two precedents.

      1 - The government in Brazil wanted information on a group in Brazil circulating kiddie porn via Orkut. Google fought serveral court orders before handing over data. To my knowledge, this is the only time they've ever handed over data.

      2 - George W. Bush asked the major search engines to hand over search data with corresponding IP addresses. Google flatly said no while AOL, Yahoo and Microsoft handed over data. If that wasn't enough, Google started anonymizing IP addresses earlier, and started building an off-shore mobile data center than can go into international waters to keep your private data away from the government.

      Again, between the two, does Microsoft have a leg to stand on when it comes to critcizing Google here?

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    2. Re:Microsoft lecturing anyone on privacy by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Want to bet? It may take a court order but they will hand it over all the same.

      The big ballyhoo last year about Privacy and Google's CEO missed the point. It wasn't that that Eric Schmidt was telling us we shouldn't feel the need for privacy. He was warning us that Google gets served with PATRIOT Act requests.

  6. The trusted voice by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I want to know what the future trends of online services are, I know I can always count on Microsoft being the one to turn to when I want to know EXACTLY what will be next years abysmal laughingstock of failure will be.

    I love how Bing maps only allows streetview to work in IE... how web2.0 of them

  7. There are a couple things... by Stregano · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The guy goes in and talks about how it is bad that Google dumped offline support. So... ...an internet company that was founded and ran off of the net makes you use the net for support. Who uses anything by Google and is not online? Who uses Google's enterprise solutions and is not online? Yes, Google takes my data. I am well aware of that. I have small websites that I have built that will take your data if you on onto them. Like Google, I do not sell my information that I have gathered.

    I do know that Microsoft has Azure, but that is all I know about it outside of knowing it exists. I honestly know more about Amazon's could space than Microsoft's. I am no expert and probably not the best and most reliable source of information. I am just a straight up web developer. If a normal web developer like myself has not heard of the Microsoft solutions outside of the name itself but has heard alot about the competition, then I would see that as them being behind the rest of the market since us normal web developers have not heard much about it.

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  8. No Surprises Here by rakuen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We get these stories a lot on /. What's the surprise here? One competitor is talking smack about another. This is what they do. They do it on a regular basis. Wake me up when, I don't know, when Apple admits that the Android might be a good product. Or when hell freezes over. You know, whichever you want to use for your timepiece.

  9. Who is failing again? by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So Microsoft took its vaunted Ms-Office to the cloud, and decided to give it away at throw away prices instead of its usual highway robbery prices. Its Exchange server is forced to play ball with mobile devices running Android and iOS, instead of pulling a fast one with obscure proprietary protocols. And now it is claiming Google does not "get" corporations? Shows how sorely Microsoft does not "get" google.

    Google does not care about its Office products. It does not want any revenue from its cloud based office offerings. Google understood that as long as Microsoft is having a cash cow in the form of Microsoft Office, it will be able to out last any competitor. It can take losses in the billions, quarter after quarter and simply wait for the competitors to run out of money. Putting a crimp on the income stream of Ms-Office is the primary goal of Google. That it has achieved. No matter what, people are not going to pay the old norm prices for MS-Office.

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  10. Wow .... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft said on Tuesday that Google simply doesn't understand what businesses need

    And, maybe Microsoft doesn't understand what consumers need.

    Hearing Microsoft actually say this is reminiscent of the whole "I'm a PC/I'm a Mac" commercials where the PC wants to do "fun stuff" like spreadsheets and pie charts.

    This blind focus on what corporations need basically missed out on the existence of the consumer market. In a lot of ways, I think Apple has shown that going after the consumer market can be quite lucrative, since apparently nobody else is really focusing on that very well.

    And, I've come to decide that anybody who cites a Gartner report is, by definition, talking out of their backside. Gartner says what companies pay them to say.

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  11. Re:What passes for dreams at Microsoft: by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "From the story: "He also said he thinks Google will be shocked to see Microsoft's momentum into the enterprise cloud sector." "

    I think we ALL would be surprised to see Microsoft have momentum into the enterprise cloud sector, or any other server related sector...

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