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One Night Stands May Be Genetic

An anonymous reader writes "So, he or she has cheated on you for the umpteenth time and their only excuse is: 'I just can't help it.' According to researchers at Binghamton University, they may be right. The propensity for infidelity could very well be in their DNA. In a first of its kind study, a team of investigators led by Justin Garcia, a SUNY Doctoral Diversity Fellow in the laboratory of evolutionary anthropology and health at Binghamton University, State University of New York, has taken a broad look at sexual behavior, matching choices with genes and has come up with a new theory on what makes humans 'tick' when it comes to sexual activity. The biggest culprit seems to be the dopamine receptor D4 polymorphism, or DRD4 gene. Already linked to sensation-seeking behavior such as alcohol use and gambling, DRD4 is known to influence the brain's chemistry and subsequently, an individual's behavior."

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  1. First post, for the umpteenth time by cgomezr · · Score: 3, Funny

    I just can't help it.

    1. Re:First post, for the umpteenth time by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 3, Informative
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    2. Re:First post, for the umpteenth time by jayme0227 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So, he or she has cheated on you for the umpteenth time and their only excuse is: 'I just can't help it.'

      If he or she is getting anywhere near "the umpteenth time" it's not a them problem, it's a you problem. If it happens once, forgiveness is certainly acceptable. If it happens twice forgiveness starts to become questionable. If it happens a third time, what the hell are you still doing with this person? Send them packing for Christ's sake.

      Obviously this argument is based on the assumption that you have a moral objection to your significant other sleeping with other people. If not, then cheerio mate, say hello to your wife for me.

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    3. Re:First post, for the umpteenth time by jcaldwel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This gene may be a good example of a "selfish gene." People who are promiscuous would tend to pass on their genes more frequently.

    4. Re:First post, for the umpteenth time by Coren22 · · Score: 2

      This is why I am divorced. I can forgive once, but any more then that shows a lack of respect for me (and our children) I now have the kids, house, and child support, and she has her new husband. All this in a state that usually shafts the man.

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    5. Re:First post, for the umpteenth time by rolfwind · · Score: 2

      If it happens once, forgiveness is certainly acceptable...

      Why do so many people say that? In essence you're saying once is okay.

      I've dumped women over once. I have no regrets, I hold myself to the same standard. It's certainly not hard to adhere to unless you're actively looking.

      If they do it once, it already shows a lack of respect and you're always left wondering. Screw that. I'm not that open-minded or forgiveness oriented.

    6. Re:First post, for the umpteenth time by rolfwind · · Score: 2

      I can forgive once, but any more then that shows a lack of respect for me...

      It's not a diet, once already shows a lack of respect.

    7. Re:First post, for the umpteenth time by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do so many people say that? In essence you're saying once is okay.

      No, they're saying once is within the realm of reason to forgive someone that you really love and want to stay with.

      They aren't saying cheating once is acceptable, they are saying forgiving once is acceptable. As in, they can accept someone forgiving their SO for cheating, once. And forgiving the great disrespect that cheating shows is not easy, and is not in any way saying it's "okay".

      I've dumped women over once.... Screw that. I'm not that open-minded or forgiveness oriented.

      You might feel differently if you weren't just dumping a girlfriend, but rather divorcing a wife and mother of your kids who you fully intended to spend the rest of time with and otherwise love with all your heart.

      Or not. Maybe that's what you meant by 'dumped'. That's fine. But not everyone feels that way. Some people really do feel it's worth giving someone they love the chance to re-earn the lost trust and to show that they have changed.

      And I can readily sympathize. But once the event repeats, and they demonstrate that they aren't going to change and once again violate trust before it is even re-earned, then it becomes quite hard to justify.

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  2. LIttle comfort by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Somehow telling my wife, "Hey, it's in my DNA, I just can't help it!" doesn't make her any less pissed off...

    And actually, these are very desirable genes, since they apparently also make you a world class football player, basketball player, soccer star, or golfer!

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    1. Re:LIttle comfort by LocalH · · Score: 2

      Of course, you still have a damn brain, so "my genetics told me too" is never a good excuse.

      I don't think that's what this points to, I think this merely says that genetics can cause an almost irresistible, sometimes overriding urge to do something in a certain way (or to do something at all). Of course, this then touches on a society that wants to pretend like the human brain is perfect and clearly if someone does something "wrong" or "inappropriate", it's caused by them simply not giving a fuck, and can not be influence by how their brain internally operates on a subconscious level.

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    2. Re:LIttle comfort by mrxak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm really unsurprised infidelity is a genetic thing. Is anyone? Guys who sleep around, have more kids. More kids means the same genes get spread around. I find it hard to believe anybody bothered to do a study on something so clear and logical, but I suppose even the most blatantly obvious of hypotheses need to be tested under the scientific method by somebody.

    3. Re:LIttle comfort by TooMuchToDo · · Score: 2

      But I question whether those who sleep around and have more children have "better" genes. I want intelligent folks with hardy physical traits having offspring, not Cletus.

    4. Re:LIttle comfort by thynk · · Score: 2

      What does that say about your sister? And can I get her number?

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    5. Re:LIttle comfort by dakameleon · · Score: 2

      Depends what criteria you're applying as "better". Nature tends to assign the ability to spread and recreate a higher value than objective strength or intelligence.

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    6. Re:LIttle comfort by c6gunner · · Score: 2

      That was the slickest V1aGr4 spam-advertisement I've ever seen!

    7. Re:LIttle comfort by c6gunner · · Score: 2

      Hey, if placebo works for you, that's great. It would probably be better if you'd go see a therapist and figure out WHY you have a psychosomatic sexual dysfunction in the first place, but pseudoscience is ok in the meantime.

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    8. Re:LIttle comfort by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2

      We -- and this gene -- evolved in a welfare-free environment. So you might want to check your assumptions that "irresponsible virility" is only a survival trait in this "historically unique" environment, and the assumption that once the environment changes, we'd be worse off for having everyone who had at some point been on welfare in the gene pool.

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    9. Re:LIttle comfort by Smauler · · Score: 2

      Ok... you're posting to slashdot. You are making statements like "Most sexual problems have something to do with the kidney meridian". Do you really not expect to be shot down in flames?

      Seriously, it's pseudo-science at best, outright quackery and fraud at worst.

      When I told my friend the next morning that my ex-wife was the only other woman I'd ever been with, she was amazed.

      Really? I mean really? This is the kind of bilge put at the end of spam emails that don't know any better. I'm sure you could have done better than that, and seemed a little more convincing.

    10. Re:LIttle comfort by mug+funky · · Score: 2

      i can't quite read the sarcasm in your post, if there is any. you seem serious, and seem to by implying that promiscuity is a result of welfare.

      should i point out that the US welfare system is not universal, and that the US population is certainly not the largest in the world. let's check the welfare situation in India and China, shall we?

      however, i'll argue based on the assumption that what you say is true...

      - welfare has selected for weak, dumb but fertile and promiscuous humans.
      - "Welfare supplies won't last forever".

      therefore, when welfare runs out, this population will have no survival advantage, and possibly be at a disadvantage compared to the smarter, stronger and mating-for-life minority left behind from the pre-welfare halcyon days. this disadvantage would lead to a mass-extinction of the welfare slackers.

      so what's the problem? you'll be left with a world of smart, strong, chaste and state-independent people, and the welfare system you hate will be no more. seems like you should be encouraging this outcome.

  3. Re:The moral of this story is by robot256 · · Score: 2

    Or, get a research job that gives you an excuse to hang out in casino bars more often.

  4. So? by MintOreo · · Score: 2

    Spoiler alert! Every thing is genetic.

    Everything everyone has ever done was determined by their genetics; that doesn't make infidelity less despicable.

    1. Re:So? by spun · · Score: 2

      No, everything is a mixture of genetics and environment. How our genes are expressed is determined by our environment. Infidelity itself is not despicable, deceit is despicable. Not every committed relationship is monogamous.

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    2. Re:So? by MintOreo · · Score: 2

      And how you respond to these environments is purely genetic. The real question is what genetic determinations are more ductile to environmental influences.

      Infidelity is despicable (obviously subjective), as it is deceit. Infidelity is being unfaithful- if your contract never included sexual exclusivity then not being exclusive isn't infidelity.

  5. Re:AIDs will cure that by potat0man · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, because cheating spouses never come back home again and spread disease back to their faithful spouses...

    Try again.

  6. New Study! by AnotherAnonymousUser · · Score: 2

    Research suggests one-night stands are responsible for new genetics.

  7. Wait a minute! by natehoy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you saying that people can't keep it in their jeans because it's in their genes?

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  8. Re:Condoms prevent AIDS pretty well by ThatMegathronDude · · Score: 2

    Why would you brush your teeth before cunnilingus?

  9. Re:Condoms prevent AIDS pretty well by spun · · Score: 2

    Some people brush their teeth before going to bed, and then have sex. But it isn't just brushing your teeth, it could be eating corn chips, or HoneyComb cereal, or anything else that can give you cuts in your mouth.

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  10. Knock it off with the oversimplification already. by Khopesh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The media does not understand basic research. In this case, we see its obsession of finding genes for behaviors; it almost never works that way.

    Genes aren't smartphone apps; you can't just say "there's a gene for that."

    Genes are more akin to code than to building blocks. A gene is more like a function than it is like a brick or mortar, and we have very little understanding of how genes interact with each other.

    I'd like to give a "bravo!" to the authors for making the paper an open-access journal article. I know that's a hard sell to publishers. The full paper is available to all without registration.

    The paper itself explains the high chance that this is overblown:

    It is also important to sound several notes of caution. First, a consistent challenge in genetic association studies are that of third variable confounds, or unmeasured variables that are causally responsible for the observed finding but are associated with the measured variables thus generating a spurious association. ...

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  11. Re:Condoms prevent AIDS pretty well by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

    My wife and I are very open and honest with each other. Suffice to say, our risk of getting AIDs is far and away much lower than say...a crack whore.

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  12. Re:Condoms prevent AIDS pretty well by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

    Ever go down on her after brushing your teeth?

    Actually, gums tend to bleed after brushing and flossing. You and your partner are much more likely to transmit and receive a viral STD shortly after that hygienic activity.

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  13. He or she has cheated by cerberusss · · Score: 4, Interesting

    As a male, I really like how the summary starts with "He or she has cheated". It doesn't paint infidelity as a typical male thing. I'm sick of the rosy picture in which this society paints our women. The most conservative statistics say that close to 50% of females admit to sexual infidelity. And yes, women are horny and have fun but not with their partner although in a different way from men, and yes, women frequently strike out at their partners, and not simply in self-defense; in 24% of violent American marriages, the woman is the only abuser. I vividly remember the Teen mom lashing out episode of the MTV show Teen Mom, where she throws a few jabs and a right hook in her boyfriend's face.

    They're humans, just like men.

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  14. Re:Figures by travisco_nabisco · · Score: 2

    They wouldn't stay all night if you just paid them after the act was done.

  15. Behavioral excuses by GMC-jimmy · · Score: 2

    "I can't help it." usually equates to "I have no self-discipline." The longer that fact goes ignored, the worse it becomes. Very few things are truly involuntary. Such as projectile vomiting.

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    1. Re:Behavioral excuses by RazorSharp · · Score: 2

      Exactly. What makes us human is our ability to make choices that override our animal impulses. Good examples include religious fasting, dying for a cause, and extreme sports. But don't tell that to a sociologist; according to them, our environment and genes mold us into what we are and there's nothing we can do about it. Leave it to the irrational to rationalize a theory that humans can't rationalize.

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  16. Infidelity != One Night Stands by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2

    Plenty of people don't have any longterm commitment to a sexual partner, especially when they're young. Some of them have one night stands. Some are celibate between longer (than one night) term exclusive relationships. But probably most of them have one night stands. That's not infidelity.

    Nor is it genetic. One night stands are mostly determined by what the other partners want or are willing to accept from the person, not the person's own genetics.

    An interest in fidelity or infidelity might be genetic, but of course the other people have a lot do do with it.

    Once again, a very narrow set of new and interesting data about genes is exaggerated to say something wrong about broad human behavior.

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