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Stuxnet Still Out of Control At Iran Nuclear Sites
Velcroman1 writes "Iran's nuclear program is still in chaos despite its leaders' adamant claim that they have contained the computer worm that attacked their facilities, cybersecurity experts in the US and Europe say. Last week President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, after months of denials, admitted that the worm had penetrated Iran's nuclear sites, but he said it was detected and controlled. The second part of that claim, experts say, doesn't ring true. Owners of several security sites have discovered huge bumps in traffic from Iran, as the country tries to deal with Stuxnet. 'Our traffic from Iran has really spiked,' said a corporate officer who asked that neither he nor his company be named. 'Iran now represents 14.9 percent of total traffic, surpassing the United States with a total of 12.1 percent.'"
Unlike those kids at Anonymous, the perpetrators of stuxnet are showing who are the real hacktivists.
Targeted precise strike on Iran's nuclear capabilities, this is a bigger win for freedom and security in the free world and anything wikileaks or their supporters could dream of doing.
I commend these hackers for slowing down the evil Iranian government's nuclear ambitions.
> Also, it is considered dishonorable for a man to admit ignorance.
So how do you explain that fucking bearded cunt in a suit saying stuff like `the holocaust didn't happen` and `we have no homosexuals in Iran`?
Thanks, Israel!
Sincerely,
The Rest of the World (including, we now know, much of the Middle East)
So Stuxnet chatter is still observed around the planet, including in Iran and the US. Duh.
Now how exactly does this "expert" come to the conclusion that, somehow, activity from the US etc must be from infected home PCs, yet the same from Iran must be from some seekret uranium enrichment plant, which typically wound not be connected to the internet?
Oh, my bad, forgot, this comes from ScareTV... Never mind.
No, not true.
It was targeted at a particular Siemens chipset. That chipset is used world wide and not just for centrifuges. (its already infected Iranian turbine generators).
But again, as I mentioned elsewhere in this thread, viruses and worms are built using the skeletons of other viruses and worms.
Iran will eventually figure out this tool, and tailor it to new targets. Centrifuges do not have GPS chips installed. They don't know where they are. At best the controllers that run them know a time zone and a language setting. How long will it take to adjust that?
Sig Battery depleted. Reverting to safe mode.
Angry people... like you?
#1... ok, although it's not just an American thing, you know
#2... whom are you kiddin' ?
And don't sound so condescending. US is but a part of a larger western civilization, it's had its glory days, it's had and still has its many failings.
Hey, this is a serious "nerds at war" story. Slashdot would be remiss to not cover what might be greatest exploit of weapons grade professional hacking in world history. How long before Slashdot "friends" find themselves on opposite sides of an actual war where key infrastructure is literally exploding? Because that's exactly what those worm coders did: Blow up uranium centrifuges in militarized underground bunkers. This really is the start of a new era in the history of nerddom, and if anything, it should be getting more attention from nerds. Maybe some of the authors of that worm even have user accounts here.
I think this attack just shows the difference that good engineering can make. Most worms out there are relatively unsophisticated, or are developed by people with limited means to pull off quick scams.
Stuxnet shows what a truly determined adversary can do. One who knows your internal processes. One who understands your industry-specific software - the stuff nobody outside the industry ever touches. One who has a large team of talented programmers, carefully designing and building the attack. One who has access to government resources - the ability to tap communications lines, inject traffic, etc. One who is funded strategically - they don't want to hold your business for ransom for $1M, they want your $100B company to collapse so that one they favor can take over, or whatever.
The software out there that runs on intranets around the world is some of the most insecure stuff you'll ever see. It rarely gets subjected to serious attack, and the vulnerabilities aren't evident to the average corporate IT guy who is just doing basic due-diligence. Your average PHB doesn't want to pay for testing that will actually uncover serious flaws - they want the system to look good to their customers and have the right bells and whistles - and pricetag.
We'll see more of these attacks in the future - count on it...
This, is why stuff that is important should NOT be connected to the internet. OR allowed to come into contact with jump drives or PCs or anything else that has been exposed to the internet. This is simple. This is stupid. This seems like an old guy railing about the dangers of new technology. This is absolutely true, and will continue to be true. Further examples will be provided by reality for the remainder of your lives. I will continue to be right. This advice will continue to be ignored because it is inconvienent or stupid or old fuddy duddy thinking whatever.
Symantec speculates a team size around 5-10 not including QA (whatever the heck that means).
Uh, good thing that programmers don't need QA or managers, and so on.
And yes, QA matters for an operation like this. You're probably having spies plant the bug, and they could get killed in the process. You don't risk spies on code that isn't tested.
Likewise, a fizzled attempt will likely trigger countermeasures making a future attack more difficult.
QA means getting it right the first time. That probably means creating a simulated environment and testing the software out in this environment. Sure, you don't need actual centrifuges and turbines, but you probably need software that emulates the feedback such machines would return to their controllers. I'm sure they didn't factor that into their "5-10" count.
I've worked on some IT projects where quality was serious business, and you can easily spend as much on testing as you spend on development. For a typical military-style coding effort factor in a WHOLE lot more.
You think the Arab nations will be so glee at the thought of a powerful Iran? In case you haven't been paying attention, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." The wikileaks cables show quite clearly that Iran doesn't have much support from their Arab neighbors.
"wikileaks cables show quite clearly "
LOL....
Yes, you are right. The vast majority of Arabs actually are in favor of a strong Iran. Their propped up autocracies aren't in favor of that of course.
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A poll recently done in the middle east showed that 80% of folks there thought that Israel was a threat. 77% thought that the US was a threat. Far down the line 10% thought that Iran was a threat. This was the "Common People off the street" type folks.
Be nice though, just because you are right and he has been watching too much Fox News doesn't mean that should be falling off your rocking chair there. Settle down, put the coffee away and maybe listen to some soothing music for a few hours - or wait till you are at least fourteen before you keep posting to
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So how do you explain that fucking bearded cunt in a suit saying stuff like `the holocaust didn't happen` and `we have no homosexuals in Iran`?
He's saying things his constituents want to hear, just like other fucking cunts say things like "we don't torture" or "the US government does not spy on American citizens without a warrant". In both cases it's not ignorance, it's deliberate deception.
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
Maybe if Britain and the USA didn't start this mess by overthrowing a democratically elected Iranian government in 1953 there wouldn't be a problem regarding the oppresion of citizens. If you have a time machine let me know.
Divide a cake by zero. Is it still a cake?
Simple same as the American's have LONG denied the holocaust against the natives and the concentration camps for Americans whose ancestors came from Japan. Or that those who wrote "All men are equal" really meant "White MEN, with sufficient standing, that we approve off, are equal, somewhat".
Being a cunt is not restricted to beard faces.
And really, does the US have any right to talk about the treatment of homosexuals? The republican cunts are now blocking reform of the "Do not ask, do not tell" policy until they get a tax cut for the super rich. I think we got a new arm race. Who can produce the biggest cunt in a suit.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Scroll up, douchebag and realize that there are people in Islamist states who have been killed for writing a single article. There are people in North Korea who disappear for speaking badly about the Government.
All the people marching in the streets this week about Julian Assange... Where were they when it was Iranian, North Korean or Chinese dissidents? Nowhere.
These people don't truly care about freedom at all. If anything, their reflexive anti-American views are the exact opposite. People serving jail time for opposing their government must look at Julian Assange like a spoilt little brat.
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When he says 'let's nuke Israel and kill another six million Jews', I don't see how you can compare that to even the worst thing a Western politician has EVER said.
And if that's truly what his constituents want to hear, then they too deserve everything they get.
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Seriously... do you think the Iranians are somehow genetically different from the rest of us?
Err... Yes?
Just as black people are genetically different to whites, Asians are to Swedes.
Did your brain just explode? Or is this where you call me a racist?
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Does that Persian then go out and burn tokens which represent traffic in a street rally?
Do Persian public representatives chant "death to traffic" in unison as the first order of business after getting power?
Is being beaten to death by mounted police / getting stoned to death a bizarre pastime for Persian women?
Are covert uranium enrichment facilities just another wacky Iranian cultural quirk?
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