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Has Progress Been Made In Fighting DDoS Attacks?
alphadogg writes "As the distributed denial-of-service attacks spawned by this week's WikiLeaks events continue, network operators are discussing what progress, if any, has been made over the past decade to detect and thwart DoS attacks. Participants in the North American Network Operators Group (NANOG) e-mail reflector are debating whether any headway has been made heading off DDoS attacks in 10 years. The discussion is occurring while WikiLeaks deals with DDoS attacks after leaking sensitive government information, and sympathizers launch attacks against MasterCard, Visa, PayPal and other significant e-commerce sites."
The people attacking Wikileaks did. Wikileaks' troubles would be nigh irrelevant without the omnipresent glaring vulnerability that is DNS. The mirrors would all be signed wikileaks.org and the client would choose the closest available. Or something to that effect.
Some of the reported DDOS vulnerabilities were dead even before they were released to the public. Sockstress? Meet connlimit.
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If you are curious about the slightly deeper and murkier details, this will tell you why handling DDoS attacks is still difficult.
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If they are blocking commerce, they can be removed. Criminal trespass arrests usually empty the streets out of people doing a sit-in, and gives an added bonus of felony-hard charges should they even come near the place again (even if they protest on the sidewalk and not on the property.)
When push comes to shove, most places go into "arrest them now, they can sue later on in the courts and lose later" mode. Every four years, you will see this exact phenomenon in action during the DNC and RNC meetings during the US election year.
Amazon, Paypal, Visa certainly weren't connected to WL in any way prior to this, but have shown relationships and friends, and of course this means that friends to WL have now escalated the parties.
Hmm ... It sounds like you're saying that wikileaks was the source of the DDoSs at Amazon, Paypal and Visa. Do we have any evidence for this? The reporting I've seen imply that it was "supporters of wikileaks", not WL themselves. From what little I know of their record, I'd think this wouldn't be their preferred tactic, since it would sorta amount to "shooting yourself in the foot", as the old metaphor goes.
(But I can imagine Julian & Co. quietly cheering the DDoSers on in private, as did a lot of us. ;-)
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This came-up in the other Slashdot discussions and I am compelled to post it here too since this misinformation seems to have stuck. Comcast did not put any restrictions on Netflix. Comcast and Level 3 communications (who happens to host Netflix) had a peering agreement, which Level 3 violated. It has nothing to do with freedom, or network neutrality, or Netflix.
The backends of Visa and MC were never targeted for the exact same reason. Their corporate sites (largely symbolic, mostly useless) were taken down instead. Paypal is a bit of an exception, but they were too big for Anon to completely drag down. But they did manage to slow it and make their presence heard - Paypal released the remaining funds in Wikileaks' account.
Comcast and Level 3 communications (who happens to host Netflix) had a peering agreement, which Level 3 violated.
That description of the Comcast and Level 3 dispute is too simplified. You might find two articles informative.
Deliberately harming the network is far from neutral, and arguing it should be allowed in the name of freedom isn't going to win you any adherents over the mental age of 14.
Uh - doesn't sound like anarchists to me, these guys sounded pretty hell bent on Serbian nationalism in my opinion. Anarchism =/= Nationalism. And really, since when did showing opposition to financial institutions that really seem to be only serving themselves become such a bad thing? The powerful and wealthy are creating laws to basically benefit themselves, creating as many layers of protection from those that would dare show a physical presence on the street. The giant bailout packages, the fancy police toys, the UAVs, the billion dollar trade summits, the snatch-and-grabs of political dissidents, demonstrate exactly how the gravy train works.
"Black Hand was founded on the 6 September 1901."
Oh wait you wrote "an anarchist", as in, the assassin himself: Princip wasn't even born until 1894.
What was the point you were trying to make again? That you haven't read the long history of European anarchism?
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I've said this about 1984, but it's equally applicable here: Please read the Bible before making comments about the Bible.
Or at least, failing that, read the Torah, which is included as the first few books of the bible.
Or at least, the first book of the bible.
Or at least, the first sixth of the first book of the bible.
That being said, "Noah."
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