Has Progress Been Made In Fighting DDoS Attacks?

alphadogg writes "As the distributed denial-of-service attacks spawned by this week's WikiLeaks events continue, network operators are discussing what progress, if any, has been made over the past decade to detect and thwart DoS attacks. Participants in the North American Network Operators Group (NANOG) e-mail reflector are debating whether any headway has been made heading off DDoS attacks in 10 years. The discussion is occurring while WikiLeaks deals with DDoS attacks after leaking sensitive government information, and sympathizers launch attacks against MasterCard, Visa, PayPal and other significant e-commerce sites."

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Re:How could they not progress against a known thr

[Firewing1]

According to the Anonymous press release two days ago, they never launched an attack against Amazon:

After this piece of news circulated, parts of Anonymous on Twitter asked for Amazon.com to betargetted. The attack never occured.

After the attack was so advertised in the media, we felt that it would affect people such as consumers in a negative way and make them feel threatened by Anonymous. Simply put, attacking a major online retailer when people are buying presents for their loved ones, would be in bad taste.

Why are DDoS attacks hard to avoid anyway?

[Musically_ut]

If you are curious about the slightly deeper and murkier details, this will tell you why handling DDoS attacks is still difficult.

Re:Why are DDoS attacks hard to avoid anyway?

[citizenr]

http://slideshot.epfl.ch/play/ktn_katerina

no idea why u got modded flamebait :)

Re:How could they not progress against a known thr

[MachDelta]

The backends of Visa and MC were never targeted for the exact same reason. Their corporate sites (largely symbolic, mostly useless) were taken down instead. Paypal is a bit of an exception, but they were too big for Anon to completely drag down. But they did manage to slow it and make their presence heard - Paypal released the remaining funds in Wikileaks' account.

Re:This reminds me of WW 1

[sciurus0]

Comcast and Level 3 communications (who happens to host Netflix) had a peering agreement, which Level 3 violated.

That description of the Comcast and Level 3 dispute is too simplified. You might find two articles informative.

Re:This reminds me of WW 1

[afxgrin]

Uh - doesn't sound like anarchists to me, these guys sounded pretty hell bent on Serbian nationalism in my opinion. Anarchism =/= Nationalism. And really, since when did showing opposition to financial institutions that really seem to be only serving themselves become such a bad thing? The powerful and wealthy are creating laws to basically benefit themselves, creating as many layers of protection from those that would dare show a physical presence on the street. The giant bailout packages, the fancy police toys, the UAVs, the billion dollar trade summits, the snatch-and-grabs of political dissidents, demonstrate exactly how the gravy train works.

"Black Hand was founded on the 6 September 1901."

Oh wait you wrote "an anarchist", as in, the assassin himself: Princip wasn't even born until 1894.

What was the point you were trying to make again? That you haven't read the long history of European anarchism?

Re:This reminds me of WW 1

[zippthorne]

god is unchanging: the only thing unchanging is the truth.

I've said this about 1984, but it's equally applicable here: Please read the Bible before making comments about the Bible.

Or at least, failing that, read the Torah, which is included as the first few books of the bible.

Or at least, the first book of the bible.

Or at least, the first sixth of the first book of the bible.

That being said, "Noah."