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Yahoo! Says Delicious To Get the Boot, Not the Axe

geegel writes "In a statement on their Delicious official blog, Yahoo now claims that: 'No, we are not shutting down Delicious. While we have determined that there is not a strategic fit at Yahoo!, we believe there is a ideal home for Delicious outside of the company where it can be resourced to the level where it can be competitive.' What that means can be everyone's guess, but at least for now, your delicious accounts are safe."

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  1. heh by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This doesn't really change anything for me. They fired their people, and now issue a vague statement that implies they are looking for a buyer. So what? And they are disappointed that it got out, but I'm not. It gave me warning I might not have had otherwise.

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    1. Re:heh by geegel · · Score: 2

      I guess it depends on how you use the service. Personally, I never bothered to open an account there, but I'm subscribed to several bookmark RSS feeds, such as this one belonging to the Open Society Institute (aka Soros Foundation).

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    2. Re:heh by Dhalka226 · · Score: 2

      What are the odds someone will buy the software but keep it going the same without any of the people?

      Why wouldn't they? Delicious could be coded in, what, a week by a solo coder? With maybe another week or two to code the browser plugins? (I've never coded one for either browser, so I have no real means to estimate that.)

      The reality is, delicious isn't that special. Whatever value it might have to some other company is in its users and its data, not the code or the people. Infrastructure is a concern, but it is with or without the people coming with it.

    3. Re:heh by The+End+Of+Days · · Score: 2

      I like your estimation technique. You share an attitude with most of my clients - you have no idea how to do something, so it must be easy.

      I gotta tell you, I've made a lot more money assuming the other way.

    4. Re:heh by Dhalka226 · · Score: 2

      That theory would work far better if I weren't a web developer by profession.

      Maybe there is some hidden complexity to delicious that I do not see; I only use it via browser plug-in as a bookmark sync, not the website itself. But I see an extremely simplistic database with users, bookmarks and tags, the output of which is some extremely simple HTML pages or an RSS feed. Infrastructure, as I already said, is a concern -- but not exactly a staggering one.

      What, exactly, are you claiming is going to take large swathes of time? Or are you simply talking about of your ass because you have no idea how to do something so it must be hard?

    5. Re:heh by MrMarket · · Score: 2

      Here's a worklist to get the "solo programmer" started. I'm sure he can sort this out and go-live in a week.

  2. buy it by headlessspider · · Score: 2

    yahoo! is just saying, "anybody want to buy it?"

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  3. Time for backup and packing by Ilgaz · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As this is a company who could easily rm -rf entire geocities, easily compressible or archival friendly data, make sure you get a local backup or move your data as soon as today.

    Let me also remind they deleted (yes, but with warnings) Yahoo Briefcase right while "cloud based" (sorry!) storage was on rise. Especially in an age where storage networks actually does unbelievable amount of compression built-in (de dupe etc).

    My start page is my.yahoo.com for almost a decade now and in all these years, I have befriended some actual Yahoo staff. So if I say backup, trust me and start packing. I wouldn't trust to flickr either for same reasons above. Buy/use a good quality 10 pack DVD-R for God's sake.

  4. Re:2-3 potential buyers may have cancelled by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The people I've talked to are not closing their accounts - they are exporting their bookmarks, looking for options, and waiting to see what happens. The fact that Diigo has been completely overwhelmed since the news broke makes me think something like this is happening a lot.

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  5. bs detector pegged by frovingslosh · · Score: 2

    Sounds like they are reacting to negative feedback. You generally don't fire everyone working on something if you really expect to sell it to another company.

    My concern would be that Yahoo just announced their intention to sell the personal information on all of these users to some outside party. Am I the only one that thinks this could go bad?

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  6. Wait, stop the bleeding by Craig+Maloney · · Score: 2

    In other words: Please stop devaluing our property! We need these users on here, or we won't make the millions, er... thousands, er... hundreds of dollars in selling it off to someone else!

  7. It's called the "employee mobility pool" by Minwee · · Score: 3, Funny

    "We believe there is a ideal home for Delicious outside of the company where it can be resourced to the level where it can be competitive."

    The dumpster behind 701 First Avenue, Sunnydale, California is technically "outside of the company", and I'm sure that there are plenty of resources there.

    If you get there before the next pickup you may even find about six hundred recently laid-off people looking for jobs. I'm sure that some of them may want to do some "resourcing".

  8. Re:just dump it already by jav1231 · · Score: 2

    Coming up with new names for essentially the same technology might be a bit anachronistic. "Web 2.0" is much like "The Cloud." We tired of "World Wide Web" and "Internet" but a rose by any other name smells the same. But I digress

    The point I made when this came out was that Delicious is more hip than Yahoo! as a brand. Were it not for some of their acquisitions Yahoo! might already have gone the way of the Dodo.

  9. Re:just dump it already by fuzzylollipop · · Score: 3, Informative

    it isn't for sharing links as much as storing your own links and making them searchable in the future, like having your own little search engine for things you want to find later from any computer.

  10. Re:just dump it already by MadChicken · · Score: 3, Informative

    First, I will never have, nor even tolerate Facebook, and second, link sharing isn't really what I used Delicious for. It's about link collection, archival and retrieval. I have moved my stuff over to Pinboard, which is not only incredibly versatile, but has the subtitle "antisocial bookmarking"... exactly my cup of tea.

    Now get off my lawn.

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  11. Re:just dump it already by dAzED1 · · Score: 2

    I don't use delicious to share links, I use it because I'm reading a handy article and I think "huh, in the future, I might want to find this in a few different types of situations...such as [tag name] or [tag name] or [tag name]."
    isn't that the primary use of it? Merely sharing the links with others...meh. What about sharing it with myself? I don't want a bookmark tree with folders and subfolders and links saved to several spots. In my google account, I likewise don't have just the "inbox" label, and no others. I want to organize things by content (tags). Delicious is the best site around (that I know of, at least) for doing this.

  12. Re:just dump it already by dAzED1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ps - I, and a lot of people I know, are also actively detaching themselves from Facebook, and making steps to limit any importance it has. Facebook sure as hell doesn't have anything that replaces delicious' primary functions. I still have a facebook account, but on it my wife is my brother (and yes, she's female in real life), an old co worker is my sister (he's female), my brother is my father, I'm widowed, I was born about 40 years earlier (makes for fun banner ads!), and I live in Beruit (versus living in northern San Diego). I only keep the account there because the old people in my family have figured it out, and they have fun sharing little things with the family. I have as much need for facebook in my life going forward as I do for a landline, or cable tv (no landline or cable for years...). There were two forks of the www; the "yay wall of junk and text php/geocities!" style sites that facebook is the crown jewel of, or the plain, non-hierarchical, nosql, functional, sites that understand that I'm dealing with more and more information each and every day, and the last thing I need is a distracting mess of a website that is supposed to be a tool in my life...ala, the simplistic interface of www.google.com, gmail, and yes - delicious. I'd say delicious is far less outdated, in principle, than facebook is. 10 years from now there will still be things that function/look more or less like delicious currently does; the same can't be said for facebook (if it's still around, it will look very, very different). Facebook is a website that tries (and fails) to make mobile apps; delicious is a REST api that fills a need/role, and is also a simple website if you need that too. As the platforms that people get online with change, so to will the www.

  13. I will give one single URL by Ilgaz · · Score: 2

    The people I've talked to are not closing their accounts - they are exporting their bookmarks, looking for options, and waiting to see what happens. The fact that Diigo has been completely overwhelmed since the news broke makes me think something like this is happening a lot.

    I am giving this as an example how you can completely waste millions sized community in a matter of WEEKS, not even months.

    http://www.digg.com/

    Trust me the web (lets call web 2.0) has some amazing speed. Couple of mistakes, you are gone. Your company depends on some person removing you from his/her bookmarks and it takes less than a second.

  14. Opera Link by CrashNBrn · · Score: 3, Interesting
    If that's all you use delicious for, it hardly makes sense to even use the service.

    Opera Link

    Opera Link is a free service that enables data sharing between all your computers and devices. It can synchronize your bookmarks, Speed Dial, notes and other useful browser information, so they are available to you wherever you go.

    As well Opera's bookmarks include:

    Name: Yahoo! Says Delicious To Get the Boot, Not the Axe - Slashdot
    Nickname: aWord
    Address: http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=10/12/18/1342250
    Folder: what folder you have saved it to
    Description: Yahoo! Says Delicious To Get the Boot, Not the Axe -- article related to Index, Businesses, Technology, News, Social Networks, Software, and Yahoo!.

    1) Typing in the addressbar searches your bookmarks by any of the words/text above.
    2) Typing in the QuickFind bookmark panel similarly filters your bookmarks as you type.
    3) Typing the "Nickname" in the addressbar will launch that particular bookmark.

    If you don't want to sort your bookmarks into folders, the search function would work fine, so long as you "tagged" words into the description.

    Ability to:
    1) Export your bookmarks to plain HTML file.
    2) Import bookmarks from most other browsers: Opera, FF, IE, Safari, Konqueror.