Is Reading Spouse's E-Mail a Crime?
Hugh Pickens writes "The Detroit Free Press reports that Leon Walker is charged with unlawfully reading the e-mail of Ciara Walker, his wife at that time, which showed she was having an affair with her second husband, who once had been arrested for beating her in front of her son. Walker says he gave the e-mails to her first husband, the child's father, to protect the boy. 'I was doing what I had to do,' says Walker. 'We're talking about putting a child in danger.' Now prosecutors, relying on a Michigan statute typically used to prosecute crimes such as identity theft or stealing trade secrets, have charged Leon Walker with a felony for logging onto a laptop in the home he shared with his wife. Prosecutor Jessica Cooper defended her decision to charge Walker. 'The guy is a hacker,' says Cooper, adding that the Gmail account 'was password protected, he had wonderful skills, and was highly trained. Then he downloaded [the emails] and used them in a very contentious way.'"
Is opening a spouses physical mail a crime?
What's next? Charging a husband who read his wifes diary. Oh yes there was a lock on it and he broke it. No that wouldn't reach court, but hackers - those smelly dodgy think they are smarter than us geek types - let's lock all of them up and throw away the key! They are terrorists! And they want to give away the fruit of all of hard work for free!
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According to TFA, her email password was written down in a little book kept by the family computer. And yet, "The guy is a hacker" and "It was password protected, he had wonderful skills, and was highly trained."
Really, I don't see how it can get any more ridiculous than this. I realize the prosecutor has to put on a show to support such ridiculous charges, but good lord...
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Pre-nap? You mean I'm bound by things I said before I first slept with her? Oh god.
I am going to guess that either her password was easy to guess, or that he used a keystroke logging program to learn it.
from the TFA, the wife kept the passwords written down in a book beside the computer.
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Considering that when you are married, in terms of property rights, you are considered a single legal entity, I honestly don't see how this would stand up in court.
Wait, are we asking whether reading your spouse's email IS a crime (in Michigan, at least), or whether it OUGHT to be a crime?
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I think it is ridiculous that this is being brought as a criminal prosecution. If his ex-wife had brought a civil suit, I would still think he should win, but that would be a sensible case. The man's fear of the child being exposed to domestic violence (possibly even physical abuse of the child) was perfectly legitimate. I would really like to know why the prosecutor is really going after this man. It sounds personal.
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The state of Michigan does not recognize prenuptual agreements. State law here recognizes, in effect, one generic marriage "contract", which is very vaguely defined. Michigan law *barely* defines how property is to be divided upon divorce. It certainly does not go in to any detail about the boundaries of privacy.
In practice, what happens in a Michigan divorce is that property is divided equally between "the parties", regardless of who filed, what caused the divorce, or either party's behavior during the marriage. Not an entirely unreasonable approach - family law judges have enough to sort out withou having to hear divorcing spouses' laundry list of grievances.
Michigan law *does* allow for unequal distribution of marital property in cases of egregious misconduct by one spouse. Presumably this is a "out" to allow one spouse to keep the marital property if the other spouse is convicted of trying to bump them off. But the bar for unequal distribution is set pretty high, meaning you pretty much have to have a felony conviction against your ex in order to get more than 50% of the family assets. Unfortunately, this means that the spouse who made the charges in this case has a financial interest in elevating the reading of spousal e-mail to the level of a felony.
DISCLOSURE: I am not a lawyer, but I was divorced in Michigan (more than the statute of limitations ago), and my ex tried to raise this same charge against me in family court. Judge and lawyers agreed at that time the was no clear statutory guidance on this issue, suggesting that the state courts will have to make this up as they go.
Imagine if the second husband DID assault the child? Then the new husband would be in trouble for NOT doing anything to prevent this atrocious act.
Funny that when we actually SHOULD be thinking about the children something else gets in the way.
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i.e. summary writer: learn to summarize better! Your first sentence had me so fucking confused. My mind as I read through that mess: "so he's the guy's husband, and he read his wife's email, he finds out his wife is having an affair with the second husband. Second husband? Oh, so do you mean the "hacker" is the first husband, and at the time the article was written, she's married to the guy she's been having an affair with? OK. But then he printed the emails and handed them to the woman's first husband. Wait, what? Isn't the hacker the first husband?"
You could have added ", who is Ciara Walker's third husband," in there to make the whole fucking thing easier to comprehend! I even RTFA to see if that incomprehensible mess was a copy/paste job, but lookie there: "Leon Walker was Clara Walker's third husband."
*mumble mumble kids and stupid American education these days.*
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In this particular case I wonder, if the wife had checked the husband's email and found out about an affair, would she have been charged with a felony too? This seems almost like an attempt to abuse the law for sexist purposes to me. Unless the prosecutor just needs attention.
Prosecutor Jessica Cooper is totally lame and would not know what a real hacker is if she said "he had wonderful skills" vs he had mad skillz. Typical know-nothing government official.
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DUDE, Reading is hacking, don't you know anything about the US Legal term for hacking?!?
Given the state of large parts of the US educational system, I think reading could qualify as "wonderful skills" and being "highly trained".
How many times have the Feds argued in court (or filings) that people have no expectation of privacy in emails?
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This would seem like a classic ad - "XX wants to protect child abusers...prosecuted someone for warning a parent of potential abuse...weak on crime...wrong then, and wrong for MI..."
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Here is another case where she made a big mistake, was proven wrong by evidence and wouldn't admit that she made a mistake. http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2010/09/did_oakland_county_prosecutor.html http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/prosecutor-laura-johnson-freed-murder-evidence-not-enough-20100927-wpms
First of all, the woman is now divorced from her 3rd husband. So she marries the 1st one and has a child, then Divorces #1 for some reason. Marries a second man who BEATS her in front of the child from the 1st Marriage. Why was the child not taken from the mother then? Probably because she sought a better life, divorcing husband #2 and found a third man to call husband.
While we don't have the full story, and of course the News doesn't always provide all the facts, so this assessment is one of pure speculation based on information available, here is how I see the situation.
The third husband is a smart guy, and knows his way around a computer, and may likely make a decent living. The third husband seems to give a shit about the wife's son from a previous marriage, which provides the impression that he's a decent guy. The wife CHEATS on her third husband with the second husband, the one who BEAT her. So husband number three figures out his wife is cheating on him, and finds proof via her email, and in finding proof he notifies husband #1 to offer protection to the child. Here he could have gone to authorities and tried to protect the child that was living under his roof, but he went back to the birth father and say "hey man, you might want to know the potential danger your child is in..." (not an actual quote).
I suspect the Wife is pissed off because she's caught cheating which likely means she's lied to husband #3. I suspect she is probably pissed off, for child being removed from her custody, which she may have used the child as a tool against husband #1 for Child Support or as a power play . Now she's made to look the fool, by all three of her husbands past and present. The 1st husband has the child now, the 2nd husband is having sex with her again, and the 3rd husband caught her violating the vows of marriage. So she punishes the 3rd with legal action and finds a prosecutor to find possible Felony charges against husband #3.
She's already proven, by cheating, that she has the ability to lie, so why should her version of the story be more credible? At this point, based on a limited amount of facts, I see the 3rd husband as a victim. And when you are married there is a measure of trust between spouses, or should be. If he was always using the PC and she has the passwords in a book then only the act of him reading and typing in the password to an account that was not his is in question, right? The one thing that helps him is that he's no longer married to someone who didn't respect him enough not to cheat on him.
I believe we have a right to privacy even in our own homes from our spouses. I feel that while the man did violate her privacy, I honestly feel that his motives were right. I hope that a judge looks at this case and treats both parties fairly. He did violate privacy, but she, in my eyes has violated far more and deserves to be punished.
Again, all this is based on speculation of the facts as the new has reported them up to now.
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IT IS SO EASY. all you need to do is to grab a laptop which some idiot have logged into a website with autologin cookies and YOU ARE A HACKER !!!
so thinks a moron, who somehow ended up as prosecutor in united states of america, random state. tells millions about the quality of education in usa (helloo capitalism) and justice system. (hi again capitalism)
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"The state of Michigan does not recognize prenuptual agreements"
Here we go. Here is the problem with the state of Michigan: when government automatically annuls agreements between two sane adult parties except for very specific clauses, so the rest of the clauses of that agreement could magically become a "crime".
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I've been told... actually, that's not good enough. I'm going to look it up.
OK, in Maine, under the Maine Revised Statutes, Title 17-A: Maine Criminal Code, Part 2: Substantive Offenses, Chapter 18: Computer Crimes, unauthorized access is a Class D crime, and unauthorized copying, computer resource damaging, and virus introduction is a Class C crime. The classes are defined as such:
If I recall correctly, beating up a small child is also a Class C crime. By printing or forwarding these emails, this person in the article could be accused of a Class C crime in Maine.
So yeah, the courts may actually try and be reasonable, but be bound and restricted by the unreasonableness and especially the vagueness of the law.
I guess "criminal invasion of privacy" allegations is the new "he's child molester" allegation.*
*Until courts got wise to it way too many divorcing moms in the 1990s would accuse their husbands of child molestation as a divorce tactic, sometimes brainwashing the kids in the process. I'm sure some still try but most courts are wise to it. By the way, "way too many" is not actually a large number but it was enough to be a noticeable trend. One malicious allegation is too many.
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Having recently gone through the pre-nuptial process, I was surprised that you claimed there is a state of the union which does not recognize prenups. So I looked it up, as you could have done, and found that -- as most of us immediately suspected -- you are totally wrong about that.
Frankly, it would be quite a shock if any of the United States outright refused to recognize an entire class of contracts recognized in the other 49 states. It wouldn't be impossible, but it would be highly irregular. Luckily for Michiganders wanting to get married, you are mistaken. You might want to talk to your divorce lawyer about that.
Some states have "share and share alike" for property acquired during the marriage possibly including appreciation of pre-marital property but most of these recognize that pre-marital property and inheritances are still separate.
For example:
I have a $500,000 net worth and my wife-to-be has $100,000. There are no retirement assets or trusts and there are no debts older than 30 days and none that won't be paid off within a month (we both carry credit cards and pay them off in full when due).
We marry and buy a house shortly thereafter.
She inherits $1M during the marriage which she immediately put in a separate bank account. It's now worth $1.1M.
At the time of our divorce the only remaining "specific" assets that haven't been sold off and co-mingled with the common money is my collection of artwork that was worth $75,000 but is now worth $200,000 and my wife's jewelry collection which was worth $5,000 but is now worth $7,000. Our common net worth is $1.5M, for a total of $1.5M (joint) + $1.1M (her inheritance), $0.2M (my car), and $0.007M (her jewelry).
At the time of our divorce filing we have no debt older than 30 days other than the mortgage and neither of us accumulate any during the divorce.
Some "Share and share alike" states would consider either the original value or current value of the car and jewelry as separate assets. Some would consider the entire "initial net worth" including the car and jewelry as separate. Some would consider the initial or current value of the inheritance as separate property. By definition, all "share and share alike" states would consider what's left as common property.
What does Michigan do?
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When we're asking if something is a crime I believe that we're actually asking two things: (1) is it a crime, and (2) should it be a crime? Here, the answer to (1) is pretty straightforward because it's been addressed by the state legislature. The trickier issue is if it *should* be a crime, for example, if the statute is held to be unconstitutional then it would be invalidated; trickier still are public policy issues. In any case I'll focus on the straightforward aspect.
Here's, the Michigan statute in question: Section 752.795 FRAUDULENT ACCESS TO COMPUTERS, COMPUTER SYSTEMS, AND COMPUTER NETWORKS (EXCERPT)
A person shall not intentionally and without authorization or by exceeding valid authorization do any of the following:
(a) Access or cause access to be made to a computer program, computer, computer system, or computer network to acquire, alter, damage, delete, or destroy property or otherwise use the service of a computer program, computer, computer system, or computer network.
(b) Insert or attach or knowingly create the opportunity for an unknowing and unwanted insertion or attachment of a set of instructions or a computer program into a computer program, computer, computer system, or computer network, that is intended to acquire, alter, damage, delete, disrupt, or destroy property or otherwise use the services of a computer program, computer, computer system, or computer network. This subdivision does not prohibit conduct protected under section 5 of article I of the state constitution of 1963 or under the first amendment of the constitution of the United States. [note: the section of the Michigan constitution alluded to here relates to freedom of speech & the press]
History: 1979, Act 53, Eff. Mar. 27, 1980 ;-- Am. 1996, Act 326, Eff. Apr. 1, 1997
As his actions were presumably intentional it appears that the issue is: Were his actions without authorization or did they exceed his valid authorization? According to the following article this is a fact-based issue that will be up to the jury to decide. Essentially "she" claims that the computer was hers alone and the password was a secret and "he" claims that he regularly used the computer and had easy access to the passwords. Ease of access to the password will likely be the determinative factor as to if he had "authorization" to access those emails.
Although his rationale for accessing those emails do not appear to be relevant per the statute, I imagine that it would be an issue when it comes time for sentencing. If instead of finding out that she was (presumably) engaged in adultery with an ex-spouse who (presumably) beat her, how would the prosecutor's office have reacted if he had accessed emails showing that:
- she was a drug dealer?
- she was a child pornographer?
- she was a terrorist?
Is reading wife's e-mail a crime? Rochester Hills man faces trial
In the preliminary exam, Clara Walker testified that although Leon Walker had purchased the laptop for her, it was hers alone and she kept the password a secret.
Leon Walker told the Free Press he routinely used the computer and that she kept all of her passwords in a small book next to the computer.
"It was a family computer," he said. "I did work on it all the time."
My initial question was why the prosecutor's office pursued this case in the first place; the following article discusses Cooper's decision to stop supporting treatment courts due to its need to "deal with the surge in violent crime and the surge in technically complex cases." The pursuit of the case at hand doesn't fit with the purported need to focus on a "surge in violent crime...".
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1. In Michigan, for Computer Misuse to become a felony, there must be over $1000 in actual damages as a direct result of the crime.
2. Computer Misuse is defined as "willfully, knowingly or purposely accessing computer-based data with intent to steal, destroy or alter computer-based information, steal services, passwords, or otherwise interfere with hardware or software, etc."
Neither of these appear to be the case in this circumstance, though the articles are severely lacking in detail, and none of the press seemed to do any research whatsoever.
Additionally, one could argue that both the computer used, and the email account accessed were community property of the family, and that the husband had the legal right to view the emails in the account. Further, the husband didn't even have to hack the account (or "breaking in" as Paul Lilly wrote) because the spouse didn't take any reasonable precautions against protecting the account; she left passwords in notebooks around the house. This means there cannot be any reasonable expectation of privacy on the part of the wife.
Taking all of this into account, the prosecutor seems to be either emotionally invested in the outcome of the trial (i.e. he's somehow connected to the wife or her attorney and is doing them a favor) or he's trying to set some sort of new precedent for Computer Misuse.
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FTFA: Using her password, he accessed her Gmail account and learned she was having an affair.
He did not have authorization to access gmail's computer system using her credentials.
So what you're saying is that Google does not permit my wife to access my gmail account even though I've given her permission and the password? I think you're a bit off there. I have several clients that setup one gmail account and give all their office staff access to that account. Is that illegal according to you too?
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