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Kodachrome Takes Its Final Bow Today

Ellis D. Tripp writes "Today marks the end of an era for photo geeks, with the shutdown of the world's last Kodachrome film processing line. Dwayne's Photo, of Parson, KS will pull the plug on their K-14 processing equipment at the end of business today."

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  1. Paul Simon / Kodachrome by chill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I think back
    On all the crap I learned in high school
    It's a wonder
    I can think at all
    And though my lack of education
    Hasn't hurt me none
    I can read the writing on the wall

    Kodachrome
    You give us those nice bright colors
    You give us the greens of summers
    Makes you think all the world's a sunny day, oh yeah!
    I got a Nikon camera
    I love to take a photograph
    So Mama, don't take my Kodachrome away

    If you took all the girls I knew
    When I was single
    And brought them all together for one night
    I know they'd never match
    My sweet imagination
    And everything looks worse in black and white

    Kodachrome
    You give us those nice bright colors
    You give us the greens of summers
    Makes you think all the world's a sunny day, oh yeah!
    I got a Nikon camera
    I love to take a photograph
    So Mama, don't take my Kodachrome away

    Mama, don't take my Kodachrome away

    Mama, don't take my Kodachrome away

    Mama, don't take my Kodachrome away

    Mama, don't take my Kodachrome
    Mama, don't take my Kodachrome
    Mama, don't take my Kodachrome (away)

    Mama, don't take my Kodachrome
    Mama, don't take my Kodachrome
    Mama, don't take my Kodachrome (away)

    Mama, don't take my Kodachrome
    (Leave your boy so far from home)
    Mama, don't take my Kodachrome (away)

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  2. Original story from the New York Times by Relayman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the original story from the New York Times.

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  3. Re:Good Riddence! by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

    On that topic, I still say only the original Edison wax cylinders had true audio fidelity. Vinyl is just a cheap knockoff, trading convenience for quality.

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  4. I had two rolls in for the final processing by stern · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Kodachrome is hard film to use; I gave up trying to take indoor photos with it years ago. I have continued to use it (about 25 rolls in the last two years), mostly because the quality of the images is obviously different from modern film or digital, and evokes nostalgia in older viewers. And I liked the bragging rights. It's no surprise that Kodachrome is gone; Kodak had been phasing it out for years -- first killing the larger format versions, then the iso25 and iso200 variants, and the motion picture film. The economics just weren't there; virtually every other color film uses identical (C41 or E6) processing chemicals, and Kodachrome used a different and apparently more toxic set. Without scale, it was more expensive to buy and process than other color films, and the emulsion can't even be scanned by most slide scanners. You're left with only nostalgia and archival properties to drive sales, enough for a small specialty chemical company perhaps, but not for Kodak.

    1. Re:I had two rolls in for the final processing by Docasman · · Score: 5, Informative

      It was a great film for astronomical photography... and I always liked the really dark blue in the sky background that no other film could give, at least on my area. Other films, positive or negative, usually turned it brown or greenish... or really green for some fujis.

  5. Remaining inventory by PatPending · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I just went to the refrigerator and removed 25 rolls of Kodachrome 64 36 exp. -- paid $8.20 per roll ($205 total). They've been in there since 2002. I've been meaning to shoot them ever since Kodak made their announcement last year but alas work prevented me from taking two scheduled vacations this year to do so. Sigh. I suppose now there's nothing left to do with it except throw it away.

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    1. Re:Remaining inventory by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Or you could just put it in your closet for a couple of decades and sell it at one of those camera shows that are constantly being put together somewhere. It will then be an antique and a conversation piece.

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    2. Re:Remaining inventory by Tenser234 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Dwayne is still doing limited runs. Its just not commercial anymore.

    3. Re:Remaining inventory by PatPending · · Score: 4, Informative

      Huh? Kodak no longer manufactures the chemical dyes & agents required for the K-14 process and Dwayne's Photo is selling their K-14 processing equipment. From Dwayne's website front page: The last day of processing for all types of Kodachrome film will be December 30th, 2010. They will however continue to offer processing for Ektachrome and other E6 process compatible films.

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  6. Re:Alternative ways to develop? by e9th · · Score: 5, Informative

    Kodachrome is a transparency ("slide") film, not a negative one like Kodacolor. Also, unlike conventional transparency films like Ektachrome and Fujichrome, the color dyes are not present in the emulsion when you shoot the film but are introduced during processing, which makes developing the stuff a bitch. One effect of this is that the dyes in Kodachrome are much longer lasting than those in other transparency films (the ones developed using the E-6 process).

  7. Re:Alternative ways to develop? by Rich0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just shows you how far we've come with digital photography that we actually have /.ers who don't know how film works.

    Film before it is developed is light-sensitive. Developing film fixes the image on the negative and makes it no longer light-sensitive. If you scan undeveloped film you'll just get an image of gray, and you'll also expose the film to intense light which means whatever was on it is lost.

    Different kinds of film require different kinds of processes to develop them (since the chemistry is different). Color film is particularly fussy about such things. Once the film is developed you get a negative and there are lots of directions you can go from there. Unless you're doing something exotic there is pretty-much only one right way to develop any particular kind of film.

  8. Re:Alternative ways to develop? by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 4, Informative

    In the case of Kodachrome, developing the film produces a POSITIVE image. Kodachrome was a slide film, afterall.

    The processing for Kodachrome is FAR more involved than other slide films, because the color dyes are actually added during the processing, rather than being present in the unexposed film itself.

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  9. Re:Selling for scrap? by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 3

    I'm just thinking that because Kodachrome is so "iconic" and historic piece of photography history, the processing machinery would be a good thing to have in a museum. Also, if it truly is the last one, it might be nice to keep one around, just in case. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apolo_11_missing_tapes for a case where keeping around the last machine proved useful. If something like this comes up, I'm sure SOMEBODY could whip up another batch of chemicals...)

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  10. Re:Alternative ways to develop? by emes · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, the process Kodachrome uses to produce the color is still based on the fundamental instability which plagues all chromogenic systems- even though the dye coupler is not in the emulsion(as would be the case with Kodacolor and Ektachrome), the fact is that the process is still the same. A dye coupler combines with developing agent by-products in proportion to the amount of underlying silver that is developed. I've always wondered how Kodachrome achieved greater archival permanence; maybe it is because the coupler/developing agent byproduct reaction happens only in processing and the dye coupler does not have a chance to become spoiled while unused sitting in an emulsion.

  11. Re:Maybe its time for a new 35mm film? by PatPending · · Score: 5, Funny

    I predict Kodak and Fuji will be out of the film business by the end of the decade.

    The end of the decade is about 1 day, 7 hours, and 25 minutes from now.

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  12. Re:Good Riddence! by PCM2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cue some 'romantic' shit about how Kodachrome has some unmeasurable orgasmic quality over anything else...

    It doesn't have to be "romantic shit." Kodachrome does have qualities that are different from anything else. Irreplaceable qualities? Unreproducible qualities? Maybe not. But until you've tried to shoot actual creative photographs (as opposed to "I wanna see this later" snapshots), you don't understand what a complex and highly analog process it is -- even for digital cameras.

    Between shutter speeds, apertures, film ISO, lenses, flash timings, and just plain holding the camera in the right place at the right time, there are a lot of variables. In film stock there are variables also, much like how two different digital SLR cameras will produce different-looking pictures of the same thing under the same lighting conditions.

    Can you fiddle with an exposure in Photoshop until most film snobs would swear it's a Kodachrome image? Sure. Is that a worthwhile way to spend your time? You tell me.

    Bottom line: No, if you hand a roll of Kodachrome to an inexperienced photographer, he's not going to be able to take any better pictures than he would with any other film. On the other hand, in the hands of an experience photographer who understands Kodachrome and knows how to get what he wants from it, the film stock can make the difference between an OK photograph and a great one. It's kind of like playing an electric guitar: Whether your amp is tube or solid-state, your guitar and your amp -- in your hands -- is going to sound different from the guy down the street's. You play what works for you.

    Kodachrome "worked" for a lot of photographers for many years. That picture from National Geographic of the Afghan girl with the crazy green eyes that you've seen a million times? That's Kodachrome.

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  13. Re:Bah by Plekto · · Score: 5, Informative

    Fuji currently makes several positive and negative type films. They also make a color-neutral type for professional use that looks as dull and washed out as our eyes generally see. The differences between Kodachrome and Provia are fairly minor, to be honest. Kodachrome was actually a black and white film that had color added to it, so it requitred special chemistry and had a curiously super-saturated blue tint (it's more reactive to blue than most any other film.

    http://www.soerink.nl/film/film.html
    You'll note the 3.7 value for blue on Kodachrome. But realistic it's not.

    http://www.maremmaphoto.it/filmtest.eng.html

    Close, but not quite.

    I use Fuji NPS 160/160S, though, as it's spot-on realistic to what your eyes see. Slightly dimmer blues and not as punchy (I find Velvia garish, like a poster, almost). But very nice, especially for portraits.

    NOTE: Fujifilm USA stops importing film from Japan if the numbers get too low. In most cases, though, the film is still made in Japan - you have to sometimes order from a shop that deals directly with Japan or import it. (the same is true for Agfa as well)

  14. Re:Alternative ways to develop? by e9th · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Every time I consider the maniacal steps involved in process K-14 (small .PDF), I'm amazed that anything shows up at all.

  15. Re:Alternative ways to develop? by spaceyhackerlady · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...One effect of this is that the dyes in Kodachrome are much longer lasting than those in other transparency films (the ones developed using the E-6 process).

    In the 1960s, this was correct. In the meantime Kodachrome has stayed much the same, while E-6 films have improved. Modern slide film is as fade-resistant as Kodachrome was, and is much easier to live with. I develop Ektachrome in my bathroom with a daylight tank. And a big tub of warm water and a thermometer.

    I've tried my own C-41 processing, but it's a bit temperamental. Since you develop for 3 minutes 15 seconds at 38 degrees, your agitation must be perfect to avoid streaks and spots and stuff.

    ...laura

  16. Re:Maybe its time for a new 35mm film? by PatPending · · Score: 3

    The first decade of 2010 ended one year ago.

    { Face palm }

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  17. Re:Selling for scrap? by Y-Crate · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can do D-76 processing in your bathroom with strong coffee, and the right off-the-shelf equipment.

    You can do C-41 processing in your basement with the right chemicals and off-the-shelf equipment.

    K-14 is another beast entirely and demands all kind of proprietary chems that you simply cannot find because they no longer exist. Even if you had the chemicals, you wouldn't have the equipment process the images properly.

    What really needed to happen here was another instance of someone pulling together The Impossible Project which (thanks to a chance meeting at a bar) salvaged the last Polaroid processing equipment riiiiiiight before it was to be scrapped, and then reverse-engineered the chemicals needed to produce and develop the film.

    (Note: I don't have any financial stake in their success, but I have to say the staff at the IP are amazing, and some of the nicest bunch of people I've dealt with in the photo world. Please give them your business.)