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Four IT Consultants Charged With $80M NYC Rip-Off

theodp writes "It's I-told-you-so time for Slashdot commenter frnic, who smelled a crime last March after reading that New York City had dropped $722 million on its still-under-development CityTime Attendance System. Nine months later, US Attorney Preet Bharara charged 'four consultants to the New York City Office of Payroll Administration ... for operating a fraudulent scheme that led to the misappropriation of more than $80 million in New York City funds allocated for an information technology project known as "CityTime."' Three of the four consultants were also charged — along with a consultant's wife and mother — with using a network of friends-and-family shell corporations to launder the proceeds of the fraud. Dept. of Investigations Commissioner Rose Gill Hearn called it a shame that 'supposed experts hired and paid well to protect the city's interests were exposed as the fox guarding the hen house.'"

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  1. Old news for nerds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Um, they were charged two weeks ago. It has been all over the local news and even in the ny times back then.

    You guys posted this now like it just took place? The timeliness of this site has really gone downhill even with tech news.

    1. Re:Old news for nerds by russlar · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's old news that slashdot posts old news.

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    2. Re:Old news for nerds by erroneus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To be fair, it may be "old news" for some, but not for me. This is the first I have heard of it. So there!

      I think if it is relevant and hasn't yet been mentioned on slashdot yet, then it should be posted regardless of its age. After all, age is relative as I am sure others will agree. I do not watch TV news too often and do not get or read the New York Times either. Perhaps it speaks badly for me that I rely on Slashdot as a news portal (though not exclusively, it is still one of many sources) but as things go, slashdot provides a "readers digest" version of the news from all over.

      And hey! It wasn't a dupe as far as I can tell, so it's all good.

  2. A stopped clock is still right twice a day. by DerekLyons · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's I-told-you-so time for Slashdot commenter frnic, who smelled a crime last March

    So many accusations of criminal behavior are made on Slashdot daily that sooner or later one was bound to be right.

    1. Re:A stopped clock is still right twice a day. by DedHerring · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So many accusations of criminal behavior are made on Slashdot daily that sooner or later one was bound to be right.

      True, but not the real question here: what is fmic's personal ratio of accusations:indictments? Better than most Slashdot commenters, I reckon. That's worth noting.

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  3. Umm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How does something "slip through the cracks" for 7 years?

    A project that was $68 million total... instead was $100+ million (a year?!!)

    If the city DIDN'T spend MORE-THAN-HALF-A-BILLION maybe they wouldn't be raising the fare on the subway/bus for the 3rd time in just a few years.

    Here's a thought.. once a year look at projects and see if they were supposed to be done already. You can pay someone $1,000 a MINUTE to do this and still save money by finding another project like this.

    1. Re:Umm by commodore64_love · · Score: 2

      Or just buy an already-existing time system like AutoTime or FieldGlass or OnTime or ..... No need to reinvent the wheel.

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  4. The problem with T&A in government... by grasshoppa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...is that everyone does it differently, and no one wants to conform to a uniform system. Why, you might ask? Because the current system is in place and, more importantly, people have learned how to game it.

    I went through something like this years ago with a local government t&a project. There was a core group that understood it's value ( namely, IT and payroll ), but everyone else had been using tricks of the current, in place system ( which varied from dept to dept ) to get longer lunches, swap shifts or plain, flat out not work and get paid for it.

    We never did get universal buy-in for the project, and it ended up dieing ( although, to be fair, the vendor didn't help things much ). Even in the best of times, T&A is a highly complex subject that almost no one understands. When you have people actively trying to undermine your efforts...well, you can imagine how much progress one might make.

    ( note: the depts that gave us the most headaches, btw, were fire and police. The "old boy" network had been in place so "billy bob" might take off a couple extra hours because he was the chief's friend. Needless to say, the new time keeping software didn't keep track of that "accurately", and people's feelings got hurt. )

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    1. Re:The problem with T&A in government... by Culture20 · · Score: 2

      >>>The problem with T&A in government...

      There is no problem. Interns in government are hot. See? (holds up Girls of DC issue)

      When did Wonder Woman, Power Girl, Cat Woman, et al start working as interns? And why don't I have a Girls of DC issue?
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  5. Re:But when Consulting companies do it... by bmo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But that was a corporation. Corporations and their boards never go to jail except in enron-style cases.

    And that was a tort, not a crime. Learn the difference. It may save your life.

    They're being charged with a crime, and it's 4 guys.

    It's different this time. The people are small enough to be crushed without too much effort or revelations of $IMPORTANT_PEOPLE as part of the fraud.

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  6. WTF is Eighty dollars millimeters? by rossdee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "$80MM"

    Is dollars millimeters a new unit?

    1. Re:WTF is Eighty dollars millimeters? by Stephen+Williams · · Score: 3, Informative

      The symbol for millimetres is mm, not MM. MM would be "megamega". Dollars megamega is equally nonsensical, mind.

    2. Re:WTF is Eighty dollars millimeters? by Amorymeltzer · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's helpful for the people who use the long-scale when counting.

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    3. Re:WTF is Eighty dollars millimeters? by farnsworth · · Score: 3, Informative

      "M" is the roman numeral for "1,000". In financial contexts, "MM" means "1,000,000" (1,000 x 1,000)

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    4. Re:WTF is Eighty dollars millimeters? by LordKronos · · Score: 4, Informative

      "M" is the roman numeral for "1,000". In financial contexts, "MM" means "1,000,000" (1,000 x 1,000)

      Uhhh...it would seem to me that, if we are going the roman numeral route, MM means 2000 and not 1000x1000. The year is currently MMX. Does that make it year 10,000,000?

  7. ...but it only scores 1 by Rhodri+Mawr · · Score: 2

    What's slightly depressing is that the comment scored only 1. Of course, this was probably because it was (rightly) modded down by the spelling and grammar police.

  8. Re:But when Consulting companies do it... by oldspewey · · Score: 2

    Deloitte hit with $30M lawsuit over ERP project [computerworld.com]

    My favourite part from that link is :

    "The 38-page complaint alleges that Deloitte was lying when the company promised to assemble a team of its "best resources" for the project and when it claimed to have "deep SAP and public sector knowledge" when marketing itself to the county."

    How naive are the folks at Marin county? In my experience, every single consulting firm in existence lies about the team they're going to place on a project. I have seen some utterly staggering misrepresentations.

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  9. And only $80m of $722m was fraud?? by mikein08 · · Score: 2

    $722m to develop a time-and-attendance system? And it's not operational? And the people in charge - if indeed anyone was ever really in charge, which I highly doubt - have not been at least been fired long ago? The whole situation is a scam of huge proportions. I'm amazed only $80m has been attributed to fraud - so far.

  10. Re:I don't understand by ffreeloader · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why the fuck would you stick around after stealing $20MM?

    You actually have to ask that question? The answer is so obvious it's impossible to miss.

    Greed makes you stupid. Greed is self-destructive. Greed keeps you thinking you can keep on getting away with anything.

    So, that's the answer? The same thing that caused them to want to steal in the first place: Greed.

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  11. Re:I don't understand by jjohnson · · Score: 2

    I do recall seeing a police detective interviewed, saying something along the lines of what you said: Criminals are greedy, so they're stupid, so they're usually quite easy to catch. People smart enough to get away with crime are smart enough to now that it's usually not worth doing.

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  12. The problem with T&A with any client by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...is that everyone does it differently, and no one wants to conform to a uniform system. Why, you might ask? Because the current system is in place and, more importantly, people have learned how to game it.

    I went through something like this years ago with a local government t&a project. There was a core group that understood it's value ( namely, IT and payroll ), but everyone else had been using tricks of the current, in place system ( which varied from dept to dept ) to get longer lunches, swap shifts or plain, flat out not work and get paid for it.

    We never did get universal buy-in for the project, and it ended up dieing ( although, to be fair, the vendor didn't help things much ). Even in the best of times, T&A is a highly complex subject that almost no one understands. When you have people actively trying to undermine your efforts...well, you can imagine how much progress one might make.

    ( note: the depts that gave us the most headaches, btw, were fire and police. The "old boy" network had been in place so "billy bob" might take off a couple extra hours because he was the chief's friend. Needless to say, the new time keeping software didn't keep track of that "accurately", and people's feelings got hurt. )

    The second most important single document in project management - the stakeholders list.

    The most misunderstood term in project management - stakeholder.

    Stakeholder == anyone who might possibly want to stab you with a pointy stick.

    Most important document - a list of motivations and pain points of the stakeholders. Third most important - payment terms. Fourth - project delivery specifications.

    Feel free to disagree, and, good luck.

    ;-p

  13. Re:Overloaded acryonym needs explaining by arth1 · · Score: 2

    "Time and Attendance" at a guess. Like the punch cards that most civilised nations done away with decades ago, realising that workers who aren't micromanaged and monitored for every minute have higher productivity.