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Do Sleepy Surgeons Have a Right To Operate?

Hugh Pickens writes "BusinessWeek reports that a commentary from the New England Journal of Medicine calls on doctors to disclose when they're deprived of sleep and not perform surgery unless a patient gives written consent after being informed of their surgeon's status. 'We think that institutions have a responsibility to minimize the chances that patients are going to be cared for by sleep-deprived clinicians,' writes Dr. Michael Nurok, an anesthesiologist and intensive care physician. Research suggests that sleep deprivation impairs a person's psychomotor skills — those that require coordination and precision — as much as alcohol consumption and increases the risk of complications in patients whose surgeons failed to get much shuteye."

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  1. an institutional illness by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Part of the problem is the medical profession's method of "training" physicians by putting them through an extended period of hazing: working around the clock, being awakened at random intervals, etc. Many of the ones who get through it develop the delusion from it that they can do the work properly under any conditions, especially sleep deprivation. It's a badge of honor for them, and they will engage in all sorts of denial and rationalization to keep at it.

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  2. Re:Proper rest by couchslug · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I get some great reactions from medical folks when I mention that the Air Force generally enforces a 12-hour shift limit for aircraft maintainers, even in wartime. Tired people fuck up, and anyone who pretends otherwise is full of shit.

    The medical world should borrow two things from military aircraft maintenance. Limit shifts to 12 hours except in emergencies where manning is insufficient, and CHECKLISTS.

    Pilots, who are at least as studly and narcissistic as physicians, KNOW ignoring checklists is a great way to fuck shit up. That's why it is PUNISHED.
    They also know, even with training, that no one can remember every detail of every complex task they have to perform. From maintainers to aircrew to the folks in the control tower, checklists are considered orders to be obeyed.

    Physicians have little time to see each patient, so they have to match symptoms with their concept of a "template" for a particular malady. Checklists are ideal for this sort of thing.

    As to the civilian custom of working interns to exhaustion, that's just stupid. The military can train enough folks for wars, the civilian side of the house should "militarize" medical care (including quality control and open chain of command for complaints) and get shit done.

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  3. Re:Develop a test by Toth · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ten or so years ago, our trucking division experimented with such a program. It ran on a PC and had a controller with a single knob which could be rotated left or right.

    You used the knob to keep the cursor in the center spot on the screen. The cursor would become more difficult to control during the test (about 30 seconds)

    Drivers would sign in for the first time and establish a baseline for themselves by taking the test multiple times until the program indicated that a baseline was established. (About a dozen attempts, I think)

    Once a baseline was established, a driver had to pass the test before starting his shift. If he failed, he had to see a supervisor.

    I tested it on myself. After two (unmeasured) shots of vodka, I would have had to see a supervisor were I a driver.

    An additional advantage was that you would also fail the test if you had the flu, were sleep-deprived or emotionally unfit to drive.

    The program never went into full production at our place. Currently drivers are tested when hired and after any accident or delivery process incident.

    I forget what it was called (I tried googling). I thought it was "fair". If you couldn't pass the test, you probably shouldn't drive a truck that day.

    If you smoked a joint a week ago, it wouldn't affect the test but if you were up all night watching movies, you'd likely fail.

  4. Re:Develop a test by FatalChaos · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Part of the problem with this is that any video game (or other) test that is reasonably quick is going to be reaction based. Surgery is not about quick reactions. I've watched open heart surgery, and it took a good 4-5 hours to complete. Surgery is about slow, slow precision, and by the time you could test for that, the patient is probably already screwed. Think of it this way: go to a hospital, and ask who are there best surgeons. You'll find out a lot of them are at least in their 40s, if not 50s and 60s. When was the last time you found ANY 40, 50, or 60 year old who was a legit gamer?