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French Minister Sells Surveillance Legislation With Fake Benefits
Dangerous_Minds writes "The debate over LOPPSI 2, the legislation that would allow police to upload malware including Trojan Horses and key loggers to unwitting users without a court order, is heating up in France. Interior minister Brice Hortefeux told the media that LOPPSI 2 would stop the theft of smart phones because vendors would then be able to discontinue use of on-board SIM cards. Critics are pointing out that the theft of stolen portable phones is not covered under LOPPSI 2 in its current form. Others also point out that the discontinued use of SIM cards on stolen phones is already possible in France without the legislation. It's unclear if this is just a case of the minister not knowing what is actually in the legislation he is trying to pass."
That's inconceivable.
I have no idea what the fuck this is about.
Fuck systemd. Fuck Redhat. Fuck Soylent, too. Wait, scratch the last one.
legislation they push?
Or are the police possibly some other special interest groups pushing it?
Politicians are yes men plain and simple.
Brice Hortefeux is well known for not knowing what he is talking about and lying about facts on a daily basis.
Note that he has been judged and condemned twice in the recent months (racism and presumption of innocence) so his lack of moral is not only notorious, it is also official.
"It's unclear if this is just a case of the minister not knowing what is actually in the legislation he is trying to pass."
Is he trying to copy American legislators?
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Brice Hortefeux is well known for not knowing what he is talking about and lying about facts on a daily basis.
This guy is retarded, but on top of that he lies. One or the other I can stand, but being both retarded a lying is a feat that the USA wasn't been able to accomplish until George W Bush and his successors.
Note that he has been judged and condemned twice in the recent months (racism and presumption of innocence) so his lack of moral is not only notorious, it is also official.
This lying retard has also been condemned twice for racism and slandar.
Bravo, lying idiot - you the only person in the world who is retarded and still somehow capable of slander. I guess racism just comes naturally to the guy too. I'm sure the Tea Party is recruiting this lying idiot as we speak.
The current French government has proposed, in the recent past, to track down migrants, both legal and illegal, through genetic testing.
This is a government which was one of the very first to propose a "three strikes and you are out" regulation to "fight" so-called Internet piracy. Even though it was repeatedly told this was an unpopular measure and one that was pretty much unfeasible technically.
This is a governement whose minister in charge of the "three strikes" law actually mentioned that Linux was not concerned by music or movie piracy because it had "high performance firewalls" [sic] such as "Open Office" [!!].
Coming from that government, nothing surprises me anymore. Like many politicians, all you need to know is that they are lying every time they open their mouths and that whatever they say they will do, they probably won't.
The right to offend is far more important than the right not to be offended. (Rowan Atkinson)
It's unclear if this is just a case of the minister not knowing what is actually in the legislation he is trying to pass.
Silly rabbit! If France is anything like the USA, having to actually read what his corporate sponsors email him before he cuts and pastes it into law would waste valuable schmoozing time.
Well, it's not like the current government is known for its bullet-proofs arguments when it comes to defend their texts...
Especially those whose goal is to reinforce the police's powers.
Not that it really matters, the right wing have absolute majority and can pass every last dumb idea they have.
This is why I maintain a 100% strict policy that I, and only I, decide what runs on my computer.
It's also a reason why I will never own a computer that I do not own. That means no iPads, no iPhones, no Kindles, and a ton of others.
I take whatever technical steps are necessary for my computer to obey me and only me. Of course, someone with physical access could compromise it, but that means they have to have broken into my house, which isn't feasible on a wide scale. And someone could, in theory, compromise the OSS operating system I use, but it seems unlikely France has done that.
Unfortunately, my policy means more and more cool modern consumer devices are off limits to purchase, because I don't get to own them after purchase.
The truth is French Politics were on the side of Hitler in WWII, not so much much against the jews as much as just admiration for fascism and totalitarian state power structure napoleon( the short)....
as usual lesson givers they want to be the first fascist state on the internet , and as usual they missed the first place taken by china.
I hate my country.
This is the same law that creates a blacklist of sites that must be blocked by ISPs, the list being secret, created by the interior minister, no appeal, no review.... And they claim it will stop pedo-pornography. They DO know what they're doing, they're just lying as usual.
The summary is incorrect: installing a key logger and/or a piece of software to access the contents of the screen of the user REQUIRES A COURT ORDER in the LOPPSI 2 and can only be done for a limited amount of time set in the law.
Please don't exaggerate things for the purpose of sensationalism. There are other points about this law that deserve constructive criticism not FUD.
... the minister knowing exactly what he's trying to sell and hoping nobody will notice?
...that keeps emailing me about the money bla bla bla bla bla and oh yeah sir, mighty fine looking bird sir, nice plumage, sir!
They can be seen in action here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juLHmMRgjzM
the cops around here, noble guys as they may be. cannot differentiate their mouse and keyboard. They paid for half my beer money when I was in college by downloading every type of crap imaginable and hiring me to repair/remove it.
I don't think that word mean what you think it mean.
That some people are totally insane does not surprise me. That a large percentage of the people in the various western governments seem to fit that bill has occured to me more than once.
howeer, regarding this proposal for a law, the interesting question must be: How significant is it? Is it likely to get accepted in parliament or what kind of process is required in France?
IOW: Have the lunatics overtaken the asylum already?