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Mac OS X 10.6.6 Introduces App Store

Orome1 writes "Apple today released Mac OS X 10.6.6 which increases the stability, compatibility, and security of your Mac. What's also very important in this release is the introduction of the long-awaited Mac App Store with more than 1,000 free and paid apps."

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  1. I can't wait to buy things!!! by Fibe-Piper · · Score: 5, Funny

    People were previously not able to buy enough Apple products online, in the Apple store, and Best Buy and Walmart. Finally a new way to consume more!

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    1. Re:I can't wait to buy things!!! by MoonBuggy · · Score: 5, Informative

      Having just downloaded the update, I find the pricing very interesting. I'm in the UK at the moment, so YMMV if you're elsewhere, but Apple's own software is significantly cheaper on the App store than on DVD from the normal Apple store. I actually used Aperture (Apple's pro photo application) as an example yesterday of something we wouldn't be seeing on the app store - turns out that not only was I wrong, but they've given it a major price cut: £173 for a boxed copy, or £44.99 for a download on the app store. Similarly, iLife sells for £46, but the three component apps are £8.99 each (so £27 total) on the app store. iWork follows the same template: £72 boxed, or £11.99 each for the three apps that it's formed from.

      A quick browse through makes it fairly clear that the pricing is rather disparate at the moment - I expect it'll settle down as people have a bit more experience with the store - but the thing that surprises me is the quantity of software at £11.99 or so; some of it seems overpriced, some of it seems reasonable, but in either case I absolutely wasn't expecting that price point to be so popular. It seems too high for a basic utility which may or may not be better than the best OSS offering, and too low for a serious application (although Apple's decision to place their office applications at that price means maybe it is high enough for serious software if they plan to make it up in volume). Whether it survives is anyone's guess, though.

    2. Re:I can't wait to buy things!!! by voidptr · · Score: 4, Informative

      One of the guidelines for submitting to the app store is x86 / x86_64 binaries only. Fat binaries with PPC code segments aren't allowed.

      There doesn't appear to be any intent from Apple to backport it into anything older than Snow Leopard, and even if they did add it to Leopard, it would be Intel only.

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    3. Re:I can't wait to buy things!!! by Graff · · Score: 4, Informative

      Apologies for replying to myself, but it'd be useful if someone could post the USD prices for comparison - see if they're trying to implement regional price differences (over and above the necessary exchange rate + taxes) or not.

      Take a look at this article:

      Mac App Store Launches with 1,000 Apps, Big Discounts

      Apple's flagship photo-editing software, Aperture, is in the store for just $80. You can still buy it from the conventional Apple Store, but it'll cost the usual $200.

      The three iWork apps, Pages, Numbers and Keynote, cost $20 apiece, a saving on the usual $80 bundle price.

    4. Re:I can't wait to buy things!!! by Americano · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The PPC system is, even if it was the last PPC system produced, at least 4.5 years old. The PowerMac G5 was last produced in July/August of 2006. It's now January 2011.

      So let's look at the facts:
      1) The App Store is not the only way to get software. It will *never* be the *only* way to get software for your Mac. There is NO reason to believe it will *ever* be the *only* way to get software for your Mac.

      2) It's been known since 2005 that PPC macs would eventually be unsupported.

      3) If you want to continue running your PowerPC system, you can keep running whatever release of 10.4 or 10.5 is on it just fine. You can also install new software whenever you like: just not through the Mac App store.

      So how are you being "forced" to upgrade your hardware by this patch? Pray tell, how is Apple going to lock down your system and prevent you from installing or doing whatever you like with your PowerPC system?

      (Hint: They can't do a single thing to it, other than 'end support' for it. Which means you can keep running it until the hardware self-destructs if you want.)

    5. Re:I can't wait to buy things!!! by Reaperducer · · Score: 5, Funny

      I feel your pain. I've been trying for months to find new 6581 chips for my Commodore 64. I can't believe no one is supporting it anymore. Sure, GEOS runs fine, and I can still get my software the way I always have (at the flea market), but good luck finding a decent REU these days. But that's how it always is -- the vendors get you hooked, and then call you "obsolete."

      I don't care what Commodore says, there's no way I'm "upgrading" to a C=128. This kind of forced obsolecence should be illegal!

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  2. Re:Watch, more censorship to come.. by pympdaddyc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's not an analogous situation though. In the case of iOS, you can only install an application if it's available in the iOS App Store (ignoring jail breaking and such, of course). The only way around that would be to have a web application, which in many ways is a poor substitute for having a native app. But in the case of OS X, you can still install/build any application you'd like. It's not as though using Steam prevents you from buying Starcraft II from Blizzard. In fact, the Mac App Store model is explicitly meant for types of applications that don't have to make system changes or integrate with the OS, something entire classes of desktop applications need to be able to do. Unlike iOS, this isn't attempting to be the only avenue for application installation, it's simply meant to be convenient. (can use your Apple ID, download and update your apps through one central location, develop and distribute paid applications without having to have your own purchasing infrastructure, etc)

  3. Re:Watch sparks fly over guidelines by CAIMLAS · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Debian project does have some fairly strict guidelines: they're just not related to content, so much as they are licensing of content. It must be "free" and unencumbered. They also, I suspect, have some guidelines/rules related to functionality, packaging namespace, privacy functionality,

    Honestly, aside from the guidelines which mainly pertain to for-pay programs and legal liability (crude content, violence, etc.) I didn't really see anything in the Apple dev guidelines that jumped out at me and said "bad!" It's mostly just "if you want to play ball with us, you have to play by our rules." Exclusionary? Sure, if the dev wants to do something different, sure.

    FreeBSD doesn't do 'repositories', so to speak. They do ports, and then FreeBSD. They're conveniently independent (I suspect so that the FreeBSD project can claim superior security to everything else). Even then, ports don't really have 'guidelines'. "I maintain this port and I'll update it as I please, consequences be damned" seems to be the guiding message, though.

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  4. Re:Can't run it. by Americano · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What the fuck are you on about? The Mac App Store has the same requirements as the Snow Leopard release:

    1) Mac system running Intel processor;
    2) 1 GB of RAM;
    3) 5 GB of disk space;
    4) DVD Drive

    That's it. The entirety of the "required specs" to run Snow Leopard. There is no Intel mac that's been released since 2006 that doesn't have at least those specs, unless you ripped hardware out of it, or put together a Hackintosh of your own, and did it badly, and cheaply.

    Or are you complaining because *you decided* not to upgrade to Snow Leopard, and now can't upgrade to the latest Snow Leopard patch, which includes the App Store?

  5. Re:Innovation by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Really? Is that why I can move my home directory from one linux install to another and the programs will still run?

    Please don't even argue this point. Linux is a bit behind the curve and the only people who would argue otherwise are people who don't use both OS's. Sure you can copy your home directory on Linux, or use the stored installer (if you are expert enough to know where they go) for an individual app (on some distros)... all provided you are running on the same architecture.

    With OS X you can literally drag an application into a chat window to a friend, who is running a different version of your OS, running on a different chipset and that friend can double click the app and run it. It's a great deal more painless since all the apps are the installers and are self contained directories ending in .app. It's one of the things Apple got right and where no Linux distro has enough pull to push change, especially since it is not a big pain point for end users. Additionally, the OpenStep packages make running software off a network drive or flash drive or anywhere really, easier by allowing for multiple sets of preferences and multiple included binaries to get around the whole hack of symlinks or multiple copies for multiple architectures.

    Linux is not ahead in every area, just as OS X and Windows are behind in other areas. Get over it.

  6. Re:All your moneys are belong to Apple by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If "developers will hand over 30 percent of the purchase price to Apple," what will consumer prices be?

    Have you ever worked in the end user software development business? 30% going to distribution, credit card processing, and managing updates isn't bad. When you add in the amount of publicity it generates by being in THE searchable software database for end users, well, likely prices will drop as advertising will drive more sales, more price competition, and larger volumes.

  7. Re:Can't run it. by gnasher719 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My four year old Intel-Mac doesn't have the required specs.

    It has. You are just too cheap to spend $29 on Snow Leopard.

  8. OS X Stats from major website by LanMan04 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Here are the stats I see on our website (major financial institution):

    OS X: 100.00%
    Intel 10.6: 53.27%
    Intel 10.5: 31.25%
    Intel 10.4: 5.64%
    PPC 10.4: 4.78%
    PPC 10.5: 2.33%

    The remaining 2.73% is crap data.

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  9. Re:Why an OS upgrade? by v1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do we need to upgrade and reboot the operating system to run, just, a new application?

    Love it or hate it, Apple will drag its userbase, kicking and screaming if necessary, forward. In the end it's for the good of both Apple and their customers. If you want to live in the past, install windows xp ;)

    Apple supports their OS to, at most, one version back. Period. No exceptions, no extensions. But they also do their damndest to make the transitions as painless/smooth/transparent as possible. (classic,rosetta,etc) If you make it easy and orderly, and do it periodically, it's not a problem for the vast majority of users.

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