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Assange Could Face Execution Or Guantanamo Bay
An anonymous reader writes "WikiLeaker-in-chief Julian Assange faces the real danger of being executed or languishing in the US prison camp at Guantánamo Bay if, as a result of his extradition to Sweden, he ends up in the hands of the Americans, his lawyers argue. In a skeleton summary of Assange's defence, posted online, Assange's lawyers argue that it is likely that the US would seek his extradition 'and/or illegal rendition' from Sweden. In the United States 'there will be a real risk of him being detained at Guantánamo Bay or elsewhere,' his lawyers write."
The problem one has is the utter hypocrisy of it. Sure, the US has it's flaws. But Chavez, the current darling of the left, is executing genocide, a "detail" which somehow escapes mention, both on leftist sites and most big news outlets. The USSR's track record, of the biggest socialist state ever, is never to be mentioned in polite company. Compared to this hypocrisy, my opinions are very much in the gray area. Genocide, death, destruction, desolation, all are excused for liberals' co-ideologists. So is it for Chavez, and so is it for the previous darlings of the left, Mugabe, Kim Yong Il, Che Guevara, and Stalin.
And, frankly, I take offense at anyone who can "ignore the flaws" of "let's execute the doctors first, then the rest comes to us" Che Guevara, finds the US anything but perfect.
Because in comparison to these guys, the US ... kinda *is* perfect. For obvious reasons.
So black-and-white ? Sure, if liberals stop being so black-and-white about socialism, and we consider both the theoretical beauty *and* the piles, nay, mountains of corpses and seas of blood that are left on any site socialism ever gained traction, the next time socialist policies are proposed.
I'm perfectly willing to discuss the US' flaws, but only with people who consider things like random killing *bad*. Yes, EVEN when it's "for the people", "for social justice" or "for freedom". People who are less-than-confused about whether it was Saddam or Bush who killed more. People who realize that someone who fired poison gas rockets, then was found "without WMDs", is not innocent, but merely has hidden his weapons well. For everyone else, the US *IS* perfect.
Is that black and white of me ? Since "black-and-white" thinking, for 'liberals' is synonymous for "non-communist thinking", yes it probably is, for you.
For every sane human being, of course, for whom life and liberty are more important than childish utopian fantasies, it's perfectly reasonable thinking.
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I take it you have never studied how the US constitution and election system, in particularly the Electoral College [archives.gov] in which the vote is not a "national popular vote" but 50 separate elections apportioning the votes of 538 representatives to the national ballot.
That doesn't change the fact that he governed while a majority voted against him. The fact that it was legal by the technical rules of the election doesn't change this.
Hell, when you get right down to it, the election rules in the US provide for scenarios where no candidate receives even an electoral majority. If that happens then the House reps each gets a vote, in several states they don't even have to vote for the candidate the people of the state they represent voted for. John Quincy Adams win in 1824, while entirely legal was still ... put it this way... if a non-American country were to select its leader like that, the US wouldn't hold back the criticism of its "ridiculous system".
Reagan was a total douchebag, and one of the worst presidents ever. The right wing can attempt to deify him all they like, but even Bush Sr. was better than Reagan.
- None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license. -- John Milton
Awww, muffin. It's tough when you have your cherished world view challenged, isn't it? Maybe what should really happen, is that you should go back to your little internet cave at huffingtonpost and you can spew your slander, distorted ideologies and hate speech with only certified like-minded individuals.