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NASA Says 2010 Tied For Warmest Year On Record

An anonymous reader writes "It may not seem like it, but 2010 has tied 2005 as the warmest year since people have been keeping records, according to data from NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York. The two years differed by less than 0.018 degrees Fahrenheit. That difference is so small that it puts them in a statistical tie. In the new analysis, the next warmest years are 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006 and 2007, which are statistically tied for third warmest year. The GISS records begin in 1880." Adds jamie: "This was the 34th consecutive year with global temperatures above the 20th century average — 0.62 +/- 0.07 C above, to be precise. It was the wettest year on record too, according to the Global Historical Climatology Network."

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  1. Decadal count is more important by Amorymeltzer · · Score: 4, Informative

    NASA also put out a piece comparing different findings by different organizations, explaining the differences and why they aren't a big deal. The articles also states that year-to-year measures aren't particularly useful - not only are 2010 and 2005 very close, but the next six are also very similar to each other - but looking at it decade by decade (i.e. a larger sample size) gives far more meaning:

    On that time scale, the three records are unequivocal: the last decade has been the warmest on record. “It’s not particularly important whether 2010, 2005, or 1998 was the hottest year on record,” said Hansen. "It is the underlying trend that is important."

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    1. Re:Decadal count is more important by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Informative

      The trend is flat since 1998.

      No it's not. 1998 was an outlier, as anyone with more than half a brain can tell by looking at the data. By definition, trends do not rely on outliers.

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  2. Yeah, but... by W0lfRaven · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's the temperature plotted over the last 32 years http://reason.com/blog/2011/01/06/global-temperature-trend-upate not as dramatic as you might think.

  3. Re:where are the error bars and raw data ? by goodmanj · · Score: 5, Informative

    The actual data this press release is based on is here.

    Versions of this data released to the media generally don't include error bars, though they should. But the methodology is the same as Hansen's 2006 paper:

    "Estimated 2-sigma error (95% confidence) in comparing nearby years of global temperature (Fig. 1A), such as 1998 and 2005, decreases from 0.1C at the beginning of the 20th century to 0.05C in recent decades (4)."

    Thus, the data errors are just a little smaller than the year-to-year variations, but are far, far smaller than the century-long trend. Which is why Hansen stresses that it doesn't really matter exactly which year is the hottest on record: what matters is how this decade stacks up to the rest of the 20th century.

  4. Re:Lies, damned lies and statistics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    but history is flooded with examples of rising temps, lower temps, higher CO2, lower CO2, and I don't quite see how what we are doing rises above being background noise, in the larger picture.

    Except, of course, that it's not. In case you're too busy to click and read, it's an article that explains that CO2 levels are substantially higher now than any point in the last 800,000 years. Typically the largest increases were around 30 ppm/1000 years. In the 17 years prior to that article in 2006, CO2 had risen 30 ppm.

    But by all means, let's continue to ignore these things and wait until we're absolutely certain before we go off and improve our planet and (if you're in the US) reduce our dependency on foreign oil and other such drastic, uncomfortable measures.

  5. Re:Not so frosty piss by GreyFlcn · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually
    Both Climate Change and Global Warming are unique terms that have specific meanings.

    To put it simply:
    Cause: Global Warming
    Effect: Climate Change
    http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/climate_by_any_other_name.html

    If anything, we should be talking about Global Warming more.
    Because it's amazingly simple when you boil it down to it's bare constuients.

    **"Is it the sun?"** Sometimes but definently not for the past half century.
    http://greyfalcon.net/solar0.png

    **"Are we certain that less and less infrared radiation is exiting out into space, almost entirely in the wavelength we'd expect CO2 and CH4 to block?"**
    Yes
    http://greyfalcon.net/greenhouse

    **Is the rate of warming significant?**
    Yeah, I'd say 100x faster than you'd expect from changes in earth's orbit alone is significant.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bftcWQiZPPg
    http://www.skepticalscience.com/How-to-explain-Milankovitch-cycles-to-a-hostile-Congressman-in-30-seconds.html
    http://greyfalcon.net/climate2
    (^^ I need a better source for this comment)

    **"Do we know that the CO2 is from fossil fuels. i.e. "Manmade CO2"**
    Yes
    http://greyfalcon.net/carbon3
    http://greyfalcon.net/c14
    http://greyfalcon.net/carbon2

    DONE. That's all you need to know.

    With absolute certainty "manmade CO2" is the main cause global warming.

  6. Re:Alternate scenario by pspahn · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sure, that's totally fair in an ideal world; however, the forests have developed a mono-culture because of all the fire suppression that has been going on for decades.

    The forests were already over-crowded and unhealthy. The current pine beetle outbreak (which mostly affects lodgepole pines, but can also hit pinon, and a few others) is so devastating because of this.

    In the past, outbreaks would be limited by a hard freeze in the winter which killed all the beetles and limited their range. Also, naturally healthy and diverse forests limited the scope of devastation. Today we have forests that are composed almost entirely of a single species in many places and the trees are all roughly the same age and present a similar amount of susceptibility.

    Once the beetles have taken every last tree, the ability for the forest to replenish itself will be hindered by the fact that there is very little other plant life around to protect the soil. Unprotected soil leads to more violent snow melt runoff, erosion, water contamination, etc. The forest will have a much more difficult time replenishing itself.

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  7. Oy vey! by Arker · · Score: 4, Informative

    I can only assume you are referring to the "hide the decline" comments in the stolen emails, regarding the substitution of more reliable thermometer data for less reliable tree ring temperature proxy data. It seems that an unfortunately phrased text snippet can outweigh a strong body of rigorous observation and logical argument.

    That's an extremely dishonest way to describe it. You make it sound like they threw out the less reliable data set and kept the good one, wow! what a great idea huh?!?!

    In fact they used that tree ring data without caveat for most of the chart, then silently omitted it near the end of the sequence, substituting data from the other set only for those years where the data from the first set didnt fit their hypothesis. Then they labeled the chart so it looked like a single, reliable data set produced the whole sequence, and presented it to the world as such.

    Posts like yours show a disturbingly casual disregard for any semblance of truth.

    I find this line deliciously ironic. Perhaps you are not acquainted with the phenomenon of psychological projection?

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    1. Re:Oy vey! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      You make it sound like they threw out the less reliable data set and kept the good one

      Well yes that's in fact what they did. The problem is deciding how much of the less reliable data to throw out. Upon discovering that a (small) number of trees displayed anomalous results in the 1960s, they could have i) decided there was something wrong (eg. chemical treatment) with these particular trees and excluded these trees only. ii) decide that a small number of anomalous trees invalidated dendrochronology and throw out all tree-ring data or iii) excluded that data from the years which included the anomalous tree ring data given that the instrumental record rendered it unnecessary anyway. The first would have been cherry picking and the second deliberately blinding oneself. Sensibly they chose the last option.

      In fact they used that tree ring data without caveat for most of the chart, then silently omitted it near the end of the sequence

      That is an outright LIE. There is nothing silent or secret about this. The problem encountered and the method used to deal with it was discussed in the original 1998 Mann et al. paper in Nature.

      Now I don't think that you are suffering from projection. You are simply easily duped.

  8. Re:Not so frosty piss by caerwyn · · Score: 5, Informative

    The issue with this, and the reason why CO2 continues to legitimately get the majority of attention, is that methane's half-life in the atmosphere is much, much, much shorter than CO2. As a result, adjusting methane emissions is less urgent, because the effects of the methane in the atmosphere vanish on much shorter timescales- the CO2 just keeps compounding.

    So, while methane is a much more powerful greenhouse gas on, say, a 1-year timescale, the comparison is much more complicated averaged over the duration of the substance's lifetime in the atmosphere.

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