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Australia Mandates Microsoft's Office Open XML

littlekorea writes "The Australian Government has released a common operating environment desktop policy that — among security controls aimed at reducing the potential for leaks of Government data — mandates the ECMA-376 version of Microsoft's Office Open XML (OOXML) standard and productivity suites that can 'read and write' the .docx format, effectively locking the country's public servants into using Microsoft Office. The policy [PDF] also appears to limit desktop operating systems to large, off-the-shelf commercial offerings at the expense of smaller distributions."

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  1. does office even support the standard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    iirc, even MS office doesn't use the standard as published ???

    1. Re:does office even support the standard? by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The catch here is that they mandated the Ecma version of the standard, not the ISO version. The Ecma version is pretty much what Office 2007+ supports. ISO used that as a base, but the committee did change quite a few things there, and the final version of ISO standard still has all those changes - and it's that which does not have any supporting implementation yet.

  2. Naming of OOXML a really dirty trick by MS by mmj638 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sneaking the word "Open" into this specification was a really dirty trick by Microsoft because

    - it implies that this standard is somewhat "open", and the word "open" has positive connotations
    - it (seemingly deliberately) creates confusion with "Open Office" ie the product OpenOffice.org, or open source in general.

    I wouldn't be surprised if a number of people were taken in by this, thinking that by making the decision to support OOXML they were somehow contributing to more "openness" in the sense of open government and/or open source.

  3. Re:This is why... by bieber · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Speak for yourself. I haven't used Windows in years, and I haven't suffered for it. Anytime I'm forced to open an office document (which is more often than you would think over the course of a CS degree), I just use Openoffice and everything works.

    At least at University, I'm seeing more and more students primarily using free operating systems. In my CS courses especially, it's all over the place: a show-of-hands survey in one of my upper-levels recently had probably upwards of ten Linux users in a class of thirty. Of course, it's a lot more prevalent among CS students, but even among the less technical students Linux usage is extremely common. When I first got here, I was shocked when I would see a Linux laptop or two near me in a class...nowadays I'm a little surprised if I don't.

    Free software may not be catching on as well as we would like with the older generations, but it most certainly is with the younger folks.

  4. Re:This is why... by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's right. Freedom is a lot of trouble. Just give it up.

  5. Typical by Twigmon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Unfortunately this seems pretty typical of this government. They like to make policies up on the spot and those policies don't have any thought put into them. We've had stimulus spending that - helped keep the economy going. They didn't actually plan what they were going to spend on though and they never put proper policies in place and we ended up spending way too much on stuff that didn't work.

    I especially like the opt-out section:

    51. This policy is subject to the process for administration of opt-outs from Whole-ofGovernment arrangements.
    52. Initial opt-out considerations will be factored into the transition plan and are expected to
    show how alignment to the policy will be achieved as part of the transition plan. Claims for
    opting out will not be considered during the transition phase.
    53. When seeking an opt-out, an agency will need to include a remediation plan to detail how it
    will return to the WofG COE policy. Opt-outs are limited to a maximum of 3 years, after
    which the original business case will be reassessed to ensure it is still valid.
    54. While it is recognised that agencies may have a need to develop separate SOE images, it is
    expected that these images will comply with the standards set out for the COE to ensure
    that agencies can still share data and services in a seamless manner.

    Whoa shite! Opting out is a massive process and has to be reviewed every 3 years.............

  6. Re:I keep seeing... by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They're not clueless. They're very smart. It's just that their priorities aren't your priorities. Their priority is putting money in their pocket. Who do you figure hands out money? It's not the linux geeks I'll tell ya that much. :)

  7. Re:Compression must default to .zip by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The nice thing about .zip is that it is, in fact, supported everywhere, out of the box.

    It's also nice in that it actually supports directory trees. The legacy lzma, and the newer xz, well, don't. I like tar in principle, and I use these formats for all sorts of things that I don't have to share with others, but there are definitely cases where zip is nice -- where it's nice to be able to effectively "mount" a zipfile, "seek" to an appropriate file within it, and read it, without having to decompress the whole thing. This is why zip is used by tons of games, where they might not even be using compression, but they can't trust most filesystems to handle that many small files properly. It's why it's used by both OpenDocument and MS OOXML -- it's the easiest way imaginable to embed multiple files into a single document, including multiple XML files that are compressed well.

    It also depends what your goals are. Zip compresses and decompresses a hell of a lot faster than lzma. These days, I standardize on either lzop for speed or xz for compression ratio, but zip and gzip are nice compromises.

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  8. Insist on FULL compliance with the standard by flyingfsck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they insist on actual compliance with the standard, even MS will be out...

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  9. Re:This is why... by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Here's the thing - we're all gonna die in the end, so all these fights against proprietary formats won't mean jack.

    In that case, so is replying. Yet you seem to care enough about justifying your position (perhaps to yourself) to reply, so don't give me this nihilistic bullshit.

    In life we pick the battles we can fight. These are potentially important issues, but basically given you're effectively saying about 90% of people are part of the "problem", I don't give a fuck anymore.

    When 90% of the people are part of the problem is when I absolutely do care.

    Take another battle I've picked: Religion. There's a small minority which does some really crazy shit. And they get away with it in the name of "religious tolerange", because a majority of the world believes enough crazy shit of their own that it takes a lot to make us as a culture say, no, you can't let your child die because you'd rather fucking pray than get help.

    Easily 80-90% of the US population is religious, which makes it a safe bet that you are, too -- probably also Christian, probably believe faith is a virtue. If so, merely by supporting the idea that faith is a virtue, you are encouraging yourself and those around you to turn off their critical thinking and skepticism when the situation calls for it. That kind of thinking leads to atrocities. Never mind that merely by calling yourself "Christian", you lend credibility to these fuckwits.

    Am I going to win? Not really. I do hope to reinforce separation of church and state, to promote actual science education instead of "Intelligent Design", and to establish some basic rights the religious would deny, like the right to marry. I'd love to see people tolerate less of the extremists. I really doubt I'm going to see the religious become a minority in my lifetime.

    But you know what? I'd like to think that when I'm lying on my deathbed, I lived for things that matter. I'd like to think that I'd still be the kind of person who would be ashamed to think I gave up because it was too hard, or because there were too many people who disagreed with me.

    Life shouldn't have to be some damn crusade.

    You're right, it shouldn't. But this is the world we live in, and there are some issues which tend towards exactly that -- either you're a good little worker propping up the status quo, or you're actually helping to move things forward.

    And life should be meaningful -- and it's up to you to find that meaning. Maybe you honestly don't care, but that's not what I'm hearing. What I'm hearing is that you do care, you're just too lazy to do anything about it anymore.

    Yet somehow, you're not too lazy to post, and to try to justify how much you don't care. That says a lot.

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  10. Public information should be open by DeathElk · · Score: 5, Informative

    As long as they provide information to the public in an open format such as HTML or PDF, I don't care what they adopt in an SOE.

    The major beef I do have however, is the Windows only tax return software provided by the Australian Taxation Office. The fact that I have to use Windows if I want to file my tax return electronically is totally unacceptable.

  11. Active Directory Rights Management Services by blarkon · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Built into Windows Server 2003 R2, Windows Server 2008 and Windows Server 2008 R2 is a role called "Active Directory Rights Management Services". It allows authors to control what can be done with documents. You can stop cutting, pasting, forwarding, editing, the whole shebang. Office 2007 and 2010 follow the rules set down in the rights templates. So does the operating system.

    After Wikileaks, governments are going to be all about rights management protection for documents. RMS stops people opening sensitive documents that they've copied to a USB stick.

    Open / Libre Office doesn't have this functionality (and because of the Open Source movement's philosophical objection to rights management technologies probably will never have this functionality).

    The recent wikileaks saga has been a big wake up call to business and government - because they want to do their best to make sure that their information isn't plastered all over the Internet. Office 2007 / 2010 support this out of the box (just that few people use it). Open / Libre Office won't support it in a million years because "DRMs is Teh Evil"

  12. Re:I keep seeing... by jimicus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Let me play devil's advocate for a minute here.

    I'm going to make a number of assumptions. All are what I would consider "reasonable", though obviously they're assumptions so make of them what you will.

    • Government bodies the world over are realising that many of their documents (of which there are thousands) really need to be stored in a standardised format so it's easy to continue to open them in future. The big cheeses at the top are waking up to this not because they've been told (when was the last time you saw someone listen to you that closely?), but because the last time they needed to get their hands on the computerised original of a document that was created ten years ago, there was a problem and it was going to take a long time to fix.
    • Most people (who aren't heavily involved with either the ISO or with IT) are wholly unaware of the corruption surrounding Microsoft getting their document approved as an ISO standard.
    • While we bang on about how Office isn't always compatible with documents created in older versions, for most people that has seldom been a big problem. And even if it has, we're talking about a file format which isn't supported in older versions anyhow so they'd have to upgrade sooner rather than later.
    • Nobody ever got fired for buying ${FLAVOUR_OF_THE_DECADE}.

    So at just about the time that it becomes apparent that some sort of standardised document format is necessary, enter Microsoft stage left, proudly announcing that they've spent a long time working on just that and if they upgrade now, they can have an office suite that uses a standard document format. All they need to do is dictate that every department purchases something that is compatible with OOXML. The issues surrounding OOXML aren't brought up because the big cheeses are unaware that they even exist and the Microsoft sales team certainly aren't going to volunteer such information - in fact, there's a good chance they're not aware of the issues either.

    Where's the salesman for OO.o? Where's the flashy suit, the company car and the briefcase full of numbers showing cost savings? These guys are from a very traditional background, and know little or nothing of the F/OSS world. From their perspective, software is developed by businesses - and what sort of a business can't even be bothered to put together a sales department? If you've ever tried explaining F/OSS to that cousin of yours who runs a business and has always bought Microsoft products - and before you've even got the first couple of sentences out you can see you're getting looks of open disbelief, by the time you've finished your cousin is seriously thinking you need to see a psychiatrist - those are the people who are making the decisions.

  13. Re:I keep seeing... by PseudonymousBraveguy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not even MS Office is able to write OOXML as in ECMA-376:

    Office 2010 provides read support for ECMA-376, read/write support for ISO/IEC 29500 Transitional, and read support for ISO/IEC 29500 Strict.

    (emphasis mine) [source: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc179190.aspx ]

  14. Re:But people in the US should thank them.... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, they are now required not to pay the Microsoft Tax. The last tests I saw showed that Microsoft Office got over 5,000 failures in Microsoft's own OOXML conformance tests. It therefore does not support OOXML and can therefore not be used by the Australian government. I suggest that anyone in Australia points this out to their elected representatives.

    Amusingly, Microsoft Office actually did better in ODF conformance tests (with a plugin, I think), than it did in OOXML conformance tests. I'm not sure how OO.o does with OOXML, but it's managed to open both of the the OOXML files I've ever been sent.

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