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Slashdot Launches Re-Design

Today we are pleased to announce the launch of the third major re-design in our 13.5 year history, and I don't think it looks half bad. The new theme represents a serious gutting of the underlying HTML and CSS, as well as all-new graphics. There will be many design wiggles, bug squashes, and compatibility glitches that survived testing, so bear with us for a bit. Please direct your bug reports and feedback (good and bad!) to Garrett Woodworth who is currently in charge of such things. Thanks to him, Wes, Vlad, Dean, Phil and Tim, who have each worked hard to get this out the door. Juggling the needs of users, editors, and various business functions is a hard job, and you guys did good.

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  1. Stupid fixed-position crap by Osty · · Score: 5, Informative

    And Slashdot has now gotten on the "waste your screen space with bullshit" fixed-position bandwagon. Luckily this is easily solved. Install Stylish and add the following to a new user style:

    @-moz-document domain("slashdot.org")
    {

    div.col_1
    {
    position: absolute !important;
    }

    header.h
    {
    position: absolute !important;
    }

    }

    Now the sidebar/header scroll with the page, rather than remaining fixed in place.

    1. Re:Stupid fixed-position crap by RazorKitten · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yea, what's worse is on my netbook the static bits on the left means I can't actually see everything there due to the screen size. ~RK

    2. Re:Stupid fixed-position crap by nabsltd · · Score: 5, Informative

      Or, if you don't want to waste the space for the sidebar at all, try the following:

      div.col_1
      {
      display:none !important;
      }

      div.col_2
      {
      margin-left:-120px !important;
      }

    3. Re:Stupid fixed-position crap by mdmkolbe · · Score: 4, Informative

      I agree. After a "Page down" I now have to scroll back up to read the three lines being covered by the header bar. This isn't just a cosmetic thing. It is a genuine hindrance to usability.

  2. Not half bad! by MoonBuggy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yep, it seems the the two major long-standing problems (broken comment expansion in idle and no pasting in Chrome/Safari) are fixed, but now it doesn't look like there's any indication of the difference between a long thread and a single comment. Visually I like it a lot, and the fixes were much needed - I'd call it a big improvement, but it definitely needs some top-level representation of the threading to handle the number of comments Slashdot stories tend to provoke.

  3. Re:Unicode? by zach_the_lizard · · Score: 5, Informative

    Armenian text:
    Georgian text:
    Hindi text:
    Japanese text:
    Korean text:
    Greek text:
    Hebrew text:
    Vietnamese text: Vit Nam
    Cyrillic script:

    Notice how /. scrubbed the text away for most of these (including a single Vietnamese character).

    Still broken.

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  4. Links to replies by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Informative

    When I get an email from slashdot telling me that somebody has posted a reply I follow the link to the new post. But I don't actually see the reply. I have to click on a top level post and follow the tree downwards, clicking to open each post, to find the reply I want to read. So why can't slashdot directly show me the new message?

  5. Re:It does look half bad by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 4, Informative

    By the way, if anyone in Slashdot tries to fix it, you should note that people that have this problem tend to have long usernames. It is pretty obvious the username extends the box into the text space.

  6. Re:Unicode? by yuhong · · Score: 5, Informative

    The funny thing is, from the HTML:
    <meta charset="utf-8">
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">

  7. e first two characters are missing by clyde_cadiddlehopper · · Score: 4, Informative
    .

    rome browser (8.0.552.237) running on Win7 Ultimate.

    e menu on the left side is too wide and cuts off the main panel.

    rhaps my username has more characters than you expected?

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  8. Re:Horrible. by Surt · · Score: 4, Informative

    Another vote for too much white.
    Shrink the margins a couple of pixels everywhere.

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  9. Re:This is slashdot? by Timothy+Brownawell · · Score: 5, Informative

    No ponies, but sidebar-hides-content seems a fairly close substitute.

  10. Slashdot Launches Re-Design: SSDD by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Informative

    Validate -> "94 Errors, 14 warning(s)"

    Some things never change. :/

  11. Seems very fragile by thetoastman · · Score: 5, Informative

    First of all, as many people have commented the text is small and the whitespace is huge.

    Second of all, even in Chrome it eats CPU and memory. Why is it necessary for an idle page to consume so many resources? I can no longer have anything else running besides Slashdot. While I don't visit as often as I used to, this will make Slashdot much more difficult to visit.

    In order to fix the font size, I tried Shift-Ctrl-+. That did increase the font size, but it broke the fixed left sidebar. The left sidebar then scrolled with the rest of the page. Resetting the page back to my default font sizes with Ctrl - fixed the scrolling problem.

    I'm curious. What user interface / site requirements were you trying to address with this new design? A quick look at the generated HTML makes me cringe. Hopefully the back end Perl code is much cleaner.

    In short, it seems that there has been a lot of effort spent for very little end user enhancement.

    Preview also seems to be slower.

  12. Re:The horror! by quantumphaze · · Score: 5, Informative

    On the topic of scrolling, like in Idle in the old version, the top bar thing breaks the behaviour of page up/down. Usually when you press page down the browser keeps a little of the previous page in view to help you keep track of reading. Now it is the exact opposite, where you actually lose a few pixels when you press page down. I might as well attach a belt sander to the scroll wheel.

    When I click on the arrow buttons on the scroll bar it will sometimes use so much CPU that Firefox becomes unresponsive to the fact that the mouse button is no longer clicked on the scroll button and will continuously scroll down slowly for about 4 screens worth before stopping. (It could also be the shitty 2D of Nvidia's Linux driver factoring in, but it hasn't happened to any other pages.)

    Firefox is eating 26% CPU (52% of one core) doing barely anything.

    Why is there a preview button in the preview? It does nothing when I click on it

  13. Re:Classic Discussion System (D1)? by rsmith-mac · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try the following:

    http://slashdot.org/users.pl?op=editcomm

    That's the D1 preferences page. As far as I can tell, there's not actually a link to it anywhere on the site.

  14. Re:This is slashdot? by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Informative

    "Abbreviated" posts hide their children entirely (previously these were below and indented).

    This makes the link directly to a comment all sorts of wrong since you can't even see it until you open up every low-scoring ancestor.

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  15. Re:This is slashdot? by arth1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    you could still turn off the ajax crap in 2.0
    now you can't

    worse still, the design overrides your minimum font size (which is completely unforgivable), and is absolutely unusable on high dpi screens.

  16. Re:Thanks for the redesign! by NeMon'ess · · Score: 5, Informative

    One tab of comments is using about 15% of one of my two cores which are running at 3 GHz. Two tabs uses another 15% and four tabs maxes out that core. Which sucks since I prefer to read the front page and open multiple tabs of stories and comments all at once.

  17. Re:This is slashdot? by Local+ID10T · · Score: 5, Informative

    worse still, the design overrides your minimum font size (which is completely unforgivable), and is absolutely unusable on high dpi screens.

    This is terrible... before I could at least zoom the text, now if I try the columns overlap and cuts off text.

    Big suckage.

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  18. Burning WAAAY too much CPU by Theovon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Looks like I'm not the only one who noticed this, but due to various other UI bugs, I can't read people's full comments. Anyhow, using slashdot is making my browser (Safari) burn massive CPU cycles. Probably some timed event that fires off WAY too often.

  19. Re:This is slashdot? by noidentity · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've found that blocking images.slashdot.org, a.fsdn.com, c.fsdn.com, and s.fsdn.com, and using the classic (D1) view with JavaShit disabled, it loads quite quickly (and it should, as it goes from around 300-400K to about 76K to load for the main page). Sure, it looks like crap, but it works and there's not lots of Web 2.0 crap. Though it seems now none of the stories on the main page show the number of comments. Oh well. What do you expect when the world is constantly moving towards more bloated, frilly designs?

  20. Re:The horror! by Firehed · · Score: 5, Informative

    Huh. Sure enough, having 3 slashdot tabs open is eating an entire core for me (out of 8, so meh - but still...). Spending five seconds with Chrome's JS profiler reveals the guilty party: adupdate:

    adupdate(){
            if($("#tophat #fad1 img, #tophat #fad1 iframe, #tophat #fad1 embed, #tophat #fad1 div, #tophat #fad1 table").width()!=728) {
                    $("#tophat").remove();
                    setTimeout("adupdate()",0)
            }else{
                    $("#tophat").show();
                    setTimeout("adupdate()",0)
            }
    }

    So, run this very computationally-intense function (that selector is pretty bad, and the width calculation is disgusting) in a continuous loop. Nice work, guys. The goal of this is what, exactly? Continually scan the width of the banner ad, and if it's not 728px, hide it, otherwise show it? Oooookay....

    I could see this as valid to run... once. Even once every five seconds, if there's a good reason for it. But calling itself again after a 0ms delay? *sigh*

    Please fix this, guys.

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  21. Re:This is slashdot? by fbjon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Zooming works perfectly in Opera...

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  22. Re:Classic Discussion System (D1)? by alexhs · · Score: 4, Informative

    As far as I can tell, there's not actually a link to it anywhere on the site.

    I found it : click the gear icon next to your username on the home page, then select the Discussions "tab".
    There you can choose between D1 and D2.

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  23. Re:Past dates by shirque · · Score: 4, Informative

    Loading a page like this - http://slashdot.org/index.pl?issue=YYYYMMDD - used to retrieve all of that day's (in your timezone) stories at once.

    Now the best you can do is call up http://slashdot.org/index2.pl?index=1&view=stories&startdate=YYYYMMDD to get about a fifth of the stories and then browse through up to four more pages for the rest of the day's news.

    I can imagine you're desperate for clicks like any other commercial web site but surely you can't be serious with suddenly making yours *that* user-unfriendly?

    Also, about half of the stories seem to be headline-only instead of Headline, Author/Date, from the x-y-z dept. & Summary. Both 'Options' and 'Account' seem to offer a chance to change that behaviour but I can't seem to get all the stories to display fully.

  24. the missing functionality by mestar · · Score: 4, Informative

    The main page no longer lists the number of comments.

    No 'yesterday' news?

    Comments spilling way right off the monitor on the 1600x1200 resolution? WTF?

    Slashdot going backwards in functionality.

  25. Old Slashdot articles are now broken by yuhong · · Score: 4, Informative

    Visit an article like this and see for yourselves:
    http://slashdot.org/articles/00/11/14/1533230.shtml