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Facebook Spammer Fined $360 Million

An anonymous reader writes "Facebook has been awarded $360,500,000 in damages against spammer Philip Porembski, who phished the login details of at least 116,000 Facebook users and sent more than 7.2 million spam messages to victims' online friends. Facebook claimed it received more than 8,000 complaints from users as a result of the spam campaign, and more than 4,500 users had deactivated their accounts."

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  1. wrong plaintiff by tverbeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And how much of that are Facebook passing along to the actual victims?

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    1. Re:wrong plaintiff by Talderas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Facebook is getting paid $80,111.11 for each deactivated account. I estimate that $0 will be passed along to those that deactivated their account.

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    2. Re:wrong plaintiff by gorzek · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They won't pass along any of it because they're not likely to get an appreciable portion of that sum from the defendant. Do you really think the average spammer has $360M stashed away somewhere?

    3. Re:wrong plaintiff by joocemann · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And how much of that are Facebook passing along to the actual victims?

      Don't you get a free online photo storage/sharing messaging service that includes a chat messenger and highly functional plugin-like apps/games?

      Security is not absolute, and surely they do not take the attacks lightly, but I'm not sure how/why someone should GET money when they've paid nothing into the system (aside from personal information that they willingly released for use/resell).

    4. Re:wrong plaintiff by Stregano · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I am pretty sure your user information has already been sold by Facebook and I am also pretty sure you will get as much of that 3k that you got for FB selling your information.

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    5. Re:wrong plaintiff by Solandri · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm sure he has some buddies in Nigeria who can loan him the money.

    6. Re:wrong plaintiff by ifrag · · Score: 3, Insightful

      highly functional plugin-like apps/games

      Wow, sounds like Facebook has really changed a lot since I last checked.

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    7. Re:wrong plaintiff by asdfghjklqwertyuiop · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't have to look at the ads? Where's the option to turn them off, then? I can't seem to find the setting... Yeah, yeah, I know, adblock.

      It isn't about why facebook owes anybody any money. Facebook wasn't the victim. Facebook was not compromised. It shouldn't have received the settlement in the first place.

  2. Awarded damages for what? by lordandmaker · · Score: 4, Funny

    Having an easy-to-use phishing platform?

  3. Jail the jerk by Simonetta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Put this bozo in prison for a LONG time. Gitmo his ass. He deserves it. We (the tech community) must clean up the spammers, hustlers, and criminals on the internet. If we don't (and no one else will or can do it) then no one will take us seriously and OUR vision of what the internet is supposed to be will be overruled by lawyers, global corporations, and their goon squads.

        It is unlikely that this asshole actually has $360,000 to pay the fine. And he committed a serious wide-ranging crime of fraud. So, yes, put this jerk in jail for a long time. Or at least as long as the feds would put a college student in hard jail for selling a little bag of bud to another college student. Which is a long time.

  4. No debtors prison in America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you don't pay your civil debts you can be jailed. This is the likely end of the situation.

    In America you only go to jail if you REFUSE to pay a civil judgment and get a contempt of court citation.

    If you CANNOT pay there's no prison.

    Otherwise OJ Simpson would've been in debtor's prison shortly after the Ronald Goldman civil verdict appeals were exhausted.

    It's not unheard of for people to make themselves "legally broke" to escape seizure and "legally very low income" to escape garnishment the rest of their lives (or until that state's limit on collecting judgments expires) after a civil judgment, much to the chagrin of whoever got the judgment against them.

  5. What the hell? by genfail · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Where are the criminal charges? Last time I checked phishing was illegal.

  6. Statutory damages: I hate spammers but... by thisisauniqueid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I hate spammers, but I almost as strongly hate the fact that statutory damages can me several orders of magnitude higher than actual damages. (viz Jammie Thomas...)

  7. Re:Stupid Court System by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    $360million is a meaningless number which accomplishes nothing. $8,000 would actually have an impact. I'm with the Republicans on this one, tort reform is long overdue.

    Yep, an $8000 fine for 7.2 million spam messages *would* have an impact. It would demonstrate that there's no punishment for doing it, and ENCOURAGE IT.

    Funny how the same fucks who are always whinging about "tort reform" are typically screaming about how we need to be "tough on crime" with uber-long sentences. Apparently, doing crime only counts if you're unfortunate enough to not be rich.

  8. Re:Facebook accounts go high these days by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "So each Facebook account is worth 80,000 dollars? Well who wants to buy mine?"

    I can offer you a pirated Britney song, it's abut the same value.

  9. Re:Well... by Mr.Intel · · Score: 4, Funny

    It depends on how it's denominated. $1 bills weigh about 1 gram, which is about 0.0022 pounds. $360 million in $1 bills therefore is about 792,000 pounds.

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  10. Re:Stupid Court System by John+Hasler · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > 360million is a meaningless number which accomplishes nothing.

    It bankrupts the spammer.

    > $8,000 would actually have an impact.

    That might not bankrupt him.

    > I'm with the Republicans on this one, tort reform is long overdue.

    Aside from the fact that "tort reform" is an insurance industry con, this has nothing to do with it. The suit was brought under a Federal statute which fixes the damages. "Tort reform" is about product liability and malpractice torts.

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