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Egypt Coming Back On the 'net
An anonymous reader wrote in with the good news that after 5 days of blackout, "Egypt is coming back on-line. Some sites that didn't used to be available and are now back include two telcos: Vodafone Egypt and Etisalat Egypt. Guess that we can't have those IPv4 addresses back after all then."
"Guess that we can't have those IPv4 address back after all then."
Okay, that was good.
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It doesn't take much of a conspiracy theorist to see what's probably happening here: first make a speech to the people talking a lot about stability and warning of chaos, then bring the net back up, send in paid thugs - confirmed as poiice in plain clothes - to attack the protesters, letting the world see the 'chaos the protests have caused' Mubarack: certified asshole, but a smart one.
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Well if Vodafone Egypt is anything like Vodafone Australia, the distinction between the network being 'on' or 'off' will be difficult to spot! :P
I imagine that Egypt's ISPs tried cutting over to IPv6-only infrastructure. This is all just a coincidence, nothing to do with the protests. I'm glad they've rolled back to IPv4 though, we can't be depriving people of access to Twitter and Facebook.
they only brought back the internet to make people go home without internet,more people joined the protests because they had nothing better to do anyway now,people are urging others to join the protests via social networking sites I don't think the Egyptian government can do anything about these protests really,other than stepping down,that is
What are eGyptians without Internet? Gyptians! ;)
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/english.aljazeera.net
Not looking good on the live stream: Plain clothes government paid thugs are attacking the demonstrating Egyptian public, trying to make them all go home.
Al Jazeera media network is by far the best coverage, but unfortunately it is more or less censored in the US apart from the above live stream (Censored in the same way that Paypal/Visa/MCard "censored" wikileaks, that is).
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An orderly transitional government, to setup fair and open elections, would likely lead to more debate of the issues, and a government reflecting the people, which are mixed, secular and religious. If it turns messy and confrontational, more emotional and less rational, radical groups get better chances, be they right, left, military, religious, corporate or whatever.
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It does take ages to re-aim the pyramids to pick up signal again. They also take a good while to reboot.
But he was a Newspaper man. Had he lived in today's world, he would have been publishing Blogs and News articles online, and objected to the concept that he is not allowed to do so. Internet == freedom of the press. And speech.
No government has a right to stick a muzzle in your mouth & prevent you from exercising your Nature-given right to express yourself (or share the thoughts running through your brain).
Information wants to be expensive AND wants to be free. So you have Value vs. Cheap distribution fighting each other.
They got cut off, then they got systematically removed from mailing lists?
I don't think it's a conspiracy. They've probably just been automatically removed by the mailing list's bounce handler. They were down for long enough for most SMTP servers to give up and do a return to sender which causes most mailer software to remove you.
I'll hold off cheering until AFTER they install a democ government.
but for some reason, I suspect it will be a muslim-based one. in which case, we are now WORSE off.
change - for change sake - does not always get us what we were hoping for.
I'll hold off cheering until I see WHO is going to run that country.
Assuming you are not from Egypt...
Why would that be worse for you? Why is this about what you are looking for? Shouldn't it be about want Egyptians want?
If you deny those people the right to live under a government of their choosing, which may not be a western Liberal Democracy (which is what you really mean), you've created a whole new problem.
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You can check the progress on Google's Transparency Report: http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/traffic/?r=EG&l=WEBSEARCH&csd=1288218432558&ced=1296644400000
Their 'president' of 29 years stepped down & now they get their Internet back? On the surface at least it looks like a victory for the lower classes, but I can't imagine that happening in this day and age. Maybe the businesses were just losing too much money on not having internet.
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Yes, these protests are absolutely incredible. And from those Americans who have a clue what's actually going on in Cairo, Alexandria, Suez, etc, you're seeing a lot of support for the protesters. Unfortunately, a lot of Americans don't have a clue what's actually going on, and many that do are getting nothing but misinformation about who the protesters are and what they want.
There are a few major reasons for that:
1. For far too many Americans, "Arab", "Muslim", "terrorist", and "scary guy" are basically indistinguishable concepts. For instance, those that find Barack Obama scary because he doesn't look like they do will say he's a Muslim, even though he's never said anything remotely similar to "There's no god but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet." So the idea that Muslims could be doing something good in the world runs straight into cognitive dissonance.
2. The US government has close ties to the Israeli government, and the Israeli government is very scared that whatever comes after Mubarak won't be so keen on adhering to the Camp David Accords. As a result, the messages Americans have been getting from their government has been lukewarm at best about the protests.
3. Establishment media outlets have mostly followed the Obama administration's lead. Many reports are taking advantage of my first point to state that these were organized by the Muslim Brotherhood (despite plenty of evidence to the contrary), and are describing "chaos" and "looting" more than "protests".
4. Some have memories of the Iranian Revolution in 1979, and fear that what Egypt is going through will lead to the same result.
A lot of Americans are ignoring their government, their media sources, and their fears, and supporting the protesters.
Salaam.
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One site that stayed up through all this was the Library of Alexandria, which, among other things, hosts a copy of the Internet Archive. They now have photos up of their supporters surrounding the Library to protect it.
They stayed up because they have a direct connection to the 10Gb/s FLAG, the Fiber Optic Around the Globe link. That has a cable landing at Alexandria, and the Library is tied in there, without going through a local ISP.