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Dell Releases Ubuntu-Powered Cloud Servers

angry tapir writes "Dell has released two servers for the US market that have been customized to run Ubuntu-based cloud services. The company has outfitted its PowerEdge C2100 and C6100 servers with Canonical's Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud (UEC), an implementation of the Eucalyptus private cloud software that runs on the Ubuntu Server Edition operating system."

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  1. I submitted this with a better summary. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dell blah blah blah Ubuntu blah blah blah cloud blah blah blah enterprise blah blah blah three letter acronym blah blah blah server edition blah blah blah

  2. Re:Failed by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Informative

    Linux is a kernel. GNU/Linux is the operating system. GN/Ubuntu is a LiGNUx operating system.

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  3. By customized... by exomondo · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...they mean they pre-loaded Ubuntu UEC on them, wow!

  4. Good luck with that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We purchased 16 C2100s in August. If you like being a Dell beta tester, have at it. The LSI RAID controllers they have in these things are, for a lack of a better word, complete crap. Technically, it's probably the drivers ... but until they have a working driver for linux that doesn't lose its mind and reset the card randomly (thus making your volumes disappear for a minute or two), I suggest staying away. Far away.

    (Posting anonymously for obvious reasons)

    1. Re:Good luck with that by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      I'm fairly sure that that sort of behavior is why they call them "PowerEdge Enhanced" Raid Controllers...

    2. Re:Good luck with that by operator_error · · Score: 2

      Ubuntu itself is a terrible server, why not use Debian instead? Or is it only me that cannot find the Ubuntu 'Stable' Repo for running things like NGINX? Nevermind Ubuntu for servers, just use Debian; and you're probably actually supporting Ubuntu when you do too.

    3. Re:Good luck with that by elashish14 · · Score: 4, Funny

      (Posting anonymously for obvious reasons)

      Yeah, I'd be pretty embarrassed if I had ever bought anything from Dell meself.

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    4. Re:Good luck with that by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 3, Interesting

      paid support with canonical? Debian isn't a corporate entity like red hat.
      Another reason being adoption of ubuntu having a desktop mindshare (Of % of linux desktops) so it's a single platform to support for workstation and server - for dell techs

    5. Re:Good luck with that by shish · · Score: 2

      Or is it only me that cannot find the Ubuntu 'Stable' Repo for running things like NGINX?

      How to install nginx on debian: apt-get install nginx

      How to install nginx on ubuntu: apt-get install nginx

      So yes, it is only you.

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    6. Re:Good luck with that by intheshelter · · Score: 2

      You know what they say, "Buy a Dell and you get. . . . a Dell"

      I'm stuck with a Dell laptop for work and it is brand new and the biggest piece of crap (in all fairness it's the combination of mediocre Dell and mediocre Winblows).

    7. Re:Good luck with that by binxbonx · · Score: 2

      There's a difference between installation using apt-get and actually serving pages with a full configuration that might include stuff like memcache, drupal, mariadb, in a professionally hosted environment, serving multiple domains. Gimme a break. There's a reason Debian calls its stable repo stable.

      Bullshit. We run ubuntu 10.04 on all our servers. Currently we have 20 servers and will increase that number the coming months. Ubuntu has served us very well. I used to run Debian which is almost the same and also a very nice system. So what do you mean? If you run apt-get install nginx on Debian you just get a full config for memcache, drupal, mariadb with that? You actually have to configure those things yourself regardless. We use chef - http://wiki.opscode.com/display/chef/Home - for that. We run things such as redis, mysql, riak and rabbitmq. Apart from our servers we also run small devices in different parts of the world - they run Ubuntu 9.04, been running flawlessly for months (over a year in one case). Ubuntu and Debian are both great - but don't bash Ubuntu just 'cause you don't know any better, thankyouverymuch! And yeah, it's only you.

    8. Re:Good luck with that by LingNoi · · Score: 2

      Since you're not buying those servers and instead just using them for computing people who use this service wouldn't have to care about such things. That's dell's admin's problems.

      Gaging by the amount of bullshit from AC trolls in these comments I think i'll reserve my judgement until someone has actually tried it out before bad mouthing it. I do have to kind of wonder why there is so much hate by ACs in these comments. The astro turfing is high today.

    9. Re:Good luck with that by operator_error · · Score: 2

      Glad everything is working out for you.

      Here's a comment from someone more in-line with the work I do, from an expert supporting my server configuration:

      "Re: your issue - it looks weird and I must admit I'm already tired supporting Ubuntu. 95% of all issues were related to some weird package updates they (Canonical) decided to introduce over last months. At the same time there was just one and simple issue in Debian Lenny, related to broken git package. My general advice is: avoid Ubuntu at all costs! They are simply crazy and I would never use Ubuntu on any server."

      https://github.com/omega8cc/nginx-for-drupal/issues/issue/166#issue/166/comment/652144

    10. Re:Good luck with that by u-235-sentinel · · Score: 2

      We have a couple dozen also. We're running Hadoop which means the RAID controllers are not needed. Would have been VERY NICE if Dell had told us we could have purchased these servers without them (apparently it IS an option).

      On the plus side, 12 RAID 0 drives works very fast in our cluster :-)

      Running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. Haven't had a drive disappear yet and we've had them for several months working 24x7

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    11. Re:Good luck with that by petermgreen · · Score: 2

      The closest equivilent to debian stable on the ubuntu side of the fence would be the LTS releases. They have longer support lifecycles than debian stable and a similar release rate. Sounds good on paper particulally the fact that you get plenty of time to plan your upgrades (unlike debian which releases unpredictably and then gives you only about a year to plan and execute your upgrade)

      The downside is the QA. Ubuntu have a largely fixed release cycle (they prioritize releasing on time over releasing right). They produce their LTS releases out of their standard 6 months development cycle (which means they are left with little time to get things stabalised and work the bugs out). They don't have the testing/unstable split that debian do. They also explicitly don't care about the packages in "universe" whereas debian at least in principle care about everything. Debian tend to spend a LONG time stablising and polishing before they release.

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    12. Re:Good luck with that by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

      Dell likes to load their own firmware and drivers onto standard manufacturer hardware.

  5. Re:Failed by postbigbang · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The UEC combination has gotten decent ratings if you want to put your anti-Canonical prejudices aside. Dell hardware ain't all that bad these days.... the combo is a damn sight cheaper than buying a fat HP box with VMware on it..... and you get to reuse some of your code on AWS.

    Yes, there are clean, virginal, can-wear-white-at-the-wedding implementations, too. This one uses kvm, if memory serves, and beats threading the whole thing together yourself.

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  6. Re:A POS comment? by jedidiah · · Score: 3, Informative

    The idea that Dell would push Linux in the server space is pretty old news really.

    Contrary to popular Lemming opinion, Microsoft doesn't have the stranglehold in the server market that it has on desktops.

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  7. Re:Failed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you were seriously in the enterprise you'd know that the added cost of a HP over a Dell is well justified. When you need to keep things running on this level there is no time to pinch pennies.

    HP may be the fair to midrange PC on the Best Buy shelf but in the enterprise it kicks the crap out of anyone else. This includes their business desktops.

  8. Re:Plenty of Linux integrators already by atomic-penguin · · Score: 2

    That should link to http://linux.dell.com/ screwed up my own HTML link.

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  9. Re:Plenty of Linux integrators already by luis_a_espinal · · Score: 2

    Well yes... but supporting RHEL is not supporting Linux, just as supporting Ubuntu isn't supporting Linux. It's kind of like saying a company supports Mac. What version... OS9, OS/X Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard?

    So to put in a nutshell, they're a RHEL shop.

    Which is fine and dandy if you stick to RHEL (and for many shops, it's just a matter of sticking to a single distro.) See, the original question was as follows:

    Why buy Linux from a traditionally Windows-only integrator with little Linux experience?

    That question itself makes no much sense since 1) there are many distros of Linux, each with its own idiosyncracies, and 2) Dell is not a Windows-only integrator given that they also do integration work with RHEL, a well-known Linux distro (and ergo pointing to the claim of Dell having little Linux experience (they do through RHEL) a fallacy.

    The post made by the AC (the one you were replying to) then makes a lot of sense ("No, Dell is not a Windows-only integrator, and they have a lot more than 'little' experience on Linux via RHEL"), more sense that the post it replies to. That is, AC's post points to the fallacy of the post that preceeded it.

    So, given that RHEL is a well-known distro, one that is also of widespread use, it is then quite acceptable to say that Dell (or whoever) is a Linux integrator. The opposite of this would inevitably and logically imply and demand a definition of "Linux integration" to cover every single major Linux distribution at best (and to cover every single Linux distribution independent of obscurity or adoption at worse). It makes no sense, and it is a definition that has no practical value beyond the strong distro predilection of people, not companies or needs.

    A company wants servers to run on Linux with some type of integration support. Be it Ubuntu or RH, it is of small relevance as the decisions to go with Dell or whoever are more in terms of volume, price and other factors beyond the name of the distro. So, in that backdrop, saying that Dell is a Linux-distro is a legitimate statement.

    Mind you that I don't care much about Dell and their equipment TBH.