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Hotmail Launches Accounts You Can Throw Away

suraj.sun writes with this excerpt from CNET: "Today, Hotmail is getting a new feature aimed at 'e-mail enthusiasts,' which lets anyone create multiple e-mail accounts that can be read, replied to, and managed from their everyday e-mail inbox. These additional e-mail addresses can be had in the same manner as signing up for new accounts, but they require no extra log-ins or upkeep. ... The idea is to give users a safe way to provide third parties with an e-mail address, without giving up the address they've provided to family and friends, which, if compromised, can end the usefulness of that particular account. Each user will be able to create up to five aliases, any of which can be deleted and replaced with another at any time. Over time, Microsoft will increase that limit to 15 aliases per account, making it so that the true heavy users won't need to juggle between two or more Hotmail accounts."

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  1. Cool idea by trollertron3000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've used it elsewhere but integrated into a client like hotmail is a good idea. Besides, I already use hotmail for my spam address. Now Google, steal this please.

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    1. Re:Cool idea by Abstrackt · · Score: 5, Informative

      While not exactly an implementation of a throwaway address, you can use plus sign addressing (subaddressing, i.e. name+slashdot@gmail.com) with Google. I use it for every site I sign up on so I can see who gives out my email address so I can filter everything from that alias into the trash.

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    2. Re:Cool idea by Manfre · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've encountered several sites that do not allow a + in the email address, or come even remotely close to implementing the RFC.

      This is a worthwhile read and the regex was fun to implement. http://haacked.com/archive/2007/08/21/i-knew-how-to-validate-an-email-address-until-i.aspx

    3. Re:Cool idea by Graff · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've used it elsewhere but integrated into a client like hotmail is a good idea. Besides, I already use hotmail for my spam address. Now Google, steal this please.

      Gmail already has had this feature for a long time. it's called plus-addressing. You take your e-mail address, put a plus sign at the end of it and then add a phrase. For example:

      foobar@google.com
      foobar+slashdot@google.com
      foobar+amazon@google.com

      All of these will get sent to foobar@google.com and you can create a filter on each term (eg: filter on +slashdot) to send them into their own mailbox.

    4. Re:Cool idea by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Unfortunately, it still exposes your primary address. Whereas it seems that the reasoning behind this Hotmail feature is primarily privacy.

    5. Re:Cool idea by Anonymusing · · Score: 3, Informative

      There is actually a patent on something like this. AT&T developed it a long time ago, sat on it for a decade, then sold the patent to Zoemail (a now-defunct Internet startup) in the early 2000s, which then sold the patent to someone else. The advantage of the Zoemail/AT&T approach was that the "keyed" addresses would be created to each recipient you sent to, and they would know you by that keyed e-mail, but you could turn those off whenever you wanted. Or give them expiration dates. The keyed address would be listed in your address book with each recipient.

      It was a beautiful concept, frankly, but could have been implemented better.

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    6. Re:Cool idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Do you mean the catchall? If so, yeah I do it too and love it.

      You get *@yourdomain forwarded to your inbox. Then you just make one rule in your filters. In the "has the words" box for filter creation, you put deliveredto:({[one],[two],[three],[four]})

      One, two, three, and four being @yourdomain "accounts" that are abandoned due to spam. Just tell gmail to send those directly to the trash, which keeps your spambox empty.

      It doesn't get any better than that. No need to create new email addresses, they all already exist. Just filter out the ones that start causing you trouble.

    7. Re:Cool idea by Patoski · · Score: 4, Interesting

      While not exactly an implementation of a throwaway address, you can use plus sign addressing (subaddressing, i.e. name+slashdot@gmail.com) with Google. I use it for every site I sign up on so I can see who gives out my email address so I can filter everything from that alias into the trash.

      Additionally you can also place a period anywhere in the user portion of your email address and gmail will route it to your address.

      For instance, if your email address is "bufordpusser@gmail.com", you can also give out "buford.pusser@gmail.com", "b.u.ford.pusser@gmail.com", etc. and all of them will route to your original address.

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    8. Re:Cool idea by Graff · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And as soon as I see your email in this format, I strip away the "+" part and have your original address which I can merrily spam.

      Spam away on it, the original, no "+" address is to a spam mailbox.

      Only addresses with the "+" part go to actual mailboxes that I read. I never hand out the bare address to anyone.

    9. Re:Cool idea by Graff · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I didn't say it was perfect, just that GMail had a version of throwaway email for a while now!

      If Hotmail one-ups Google then that's all the better for the users because that's how services get better, through competition.

    10. Re:Cool idea by Magic5Ball · · Score: 3, Funny

      Then would you say that you are nonplussed about this feature?

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  2. I guess... by msauve · · Score: 4, Funny

    this is the first time I've seen a Microsoft focused article after the /. redesign. Bill as Borg doesn't seem right - he's not even in charge any more. Where's Ballmer with a chair (and not sitting on it)?

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    1. Re:I guess... by catmistake · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Also in Microsoft's court, Exchange has no true equal and Active-Directory still rules, and, by reverse proxy I guess, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is amazing. On the otherhand, their flagship OS is still a rotting, broken piece of shit and a security nightmare, and their rabid fanbois equal mac zealots in the uninformed denial of this. (Sure... any OS can be broken or insecure... it's just infinitely easier with Windows.)

  3. Here. by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Informative
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    1. Re:Here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Interesting but not quite the same thing. If an account gets really jacked up then you would have to make another gmail account, remove the old one, then add the new one. Kind of a pain in the ass.

      With the Hotmail feature you simply delete the old one and make a new one right there. It's much more straightforward and quick.

    2. Re:Here. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I have a DynDns subdomain (free) for which I registered a Google Labs account (free) and set up Gmail (free). I get up to 50 Gmail accounts @ my DynDns subdomain. Adding or removing them is easy, and with multiple sign-in, switching between them is easy. Plus I can set them to forward messages to my main e-mail address.

    3. Re:Here. by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Options -> Comment post mode: Plain Old Text.
      Contrary to what its name suggests, it actually interprets the supported html tags, but it keeps line breaks.

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  4. Hrmmm by WiglyWorm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Isn't that what people do with their hotmail account anyway? Throw it away?

  5. You thought it was hard to name an account before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now we're going to be emailing grandmacatherineandgrandpajohn1320924delta@hotmail.com

  6. Own domain by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been doing a similar thing with my own domain / webserver for the last decade. I'll make up email addresses right on the spot, usually like "slashdot.org@mydomain.com" or "sprint@mydomain.com", etc. I have a catch all account that receives all emails to non-existent accounts, and I can split any of the addresses off into an actual account whenever needed (or disable it if it becomes inundated with spam). That was always one of the big perks of owning your own domain.

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    1. Re:Own domain by SydShamino · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yup, I do exactly this for about the same length of time. The only difficulty is when I have to give an address to someone verbally, and they think I'm giving them a fake one since it's yourcompany@mydomain.com. I usually get around this by giving those people randomthreedigits@mydomain.com or similar. As it happens I've only ever lost one address this way to spam, but it was obvious right away who sold my address.

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  7. Beaten to it? by Firehed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This seems pretty similar to Gmail's aliasing - append anything after a plus sign to your email address (ex firehed+slashdot@gmail.com) and it goes to your main inbox. If that address is compromised, just filter anything addressed to that account.

    Microsoft seems to have a few advantages here, though. First, it's a lot more seamless. Second, there are tons of websites that incorrectly validate email addresses and treat + as an illegal character, which it is not (hell, you can go directly to an IP address instead of a domain, although nobody ever would), so by extension it's harder to use as a throw-away address. And third, it's pretty obvious you've done it, and websites can just s/\+[A-z0-9.-]+@gmail.com/@gmail.com/g it into oblivion.

    Of course, in order to get this functionality, you need to use hotmail. Aren't those already throw-away accounts by definition?

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  8. Re:Great Idea. by hawguy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Gmail has something that's arguably better -- you can use a plus sign to append any string you like to your address, so you can have "myname@gmail.com' as your main account and give "myname+family@gmail.com" to your family. And when you sign up for a Hormel mailling list, you can use "myname+hormel@gmail.com" so you know when you're getting spammed by Hormel.

  9. That's nothing. by dmomo · · Score: 3, Funny

    I threw away my hotmail account 10 years ago.